Stealing CS

FyreWall·10/5/2019, 9:31:19 AM·4 votes·7,338 views

I've been playing jungle for a little bit now, but was originally a support player. As such I typically play support style junglers. Now I understand that an ADC wants to inflate their CS score by taking jungle camps, but what i dont understand, is why I get flamed for taking lane CS? I constantly ask people to not take my buffs or my camps, because I will not take Lane CS, and I need to keep up. Yet they do it anyway, and when i counter by taxing their lane, they go on a tangent about me for the rest of the game. Am I in the wrong here?

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Devilreaper XIII10/5/2019, 9:41:05 AM3 votes

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I've been playing jungle for a little bit now, but was originally a support player. As such I typically play support style junglers. Now I understand that an ADC wants to inflate their CS score by taking jungle camps, but what i dont understand, is why I get flamed for taking lane CS? I constantly ask people to not take my buffs or my camps, because I will not take Lane CS, and I need to keep up. Yet they do it anyway, and when i counter by taxing their lane, they go on a tangent about me for the rest of the game. Am I in the wrong here?

ignore their ranting and just keep playing^^

Yuiwara10/5/2019, 10:50:06 AM3 votes

humans are somewhat difficult to deal with sometimes. i mean u get flamed by an adc already if u only hit minions but dont kill them. u just want to help clear the wave faster so the adc just needs to last hit them and instead of doing so they stop attakcing, pinging at u and flame. sometimes even threatening with report but well, its not something u can be reported for. sometimes u play support like morgana, where u hit the minions with ur w at some point and get flamed for. "dont hit minions with ur w", "stop using ur w" and whatever else.'

Simplest solution: report them for flaming if they start leashing at u for cs u didnt do anything wrong. mute them and just ignore their chat for the rest of the game (but naturally still help them if in need).

Eedat10/5/2019, 3:15:32 PM3 votes

That's what I do if people keep taking all my camps. Dont feel too bad about it. People are entitled and think yours is also theirs. Just mute them and they'll get over it. Dont bother arguing

Silent Gravity10/5/2019, 4:42:35 PM2 votes

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when i counter by taxing their lane Am I in the wrong here?

If you're taxing to punish or retaliate against them, you are in the wrong. If you're taxing because you believe that you need x gold per minute to be effective, then you are not griefing.

Support style junglers don't need much gold to be effective. It's the assassins that have a minimum gold required to be efficient.

jaimer10/5/2019, 8:45:41 PM2 votes

you're supposed to donate camps to laners, especially ADCs. Junglers become supports later in the game. Your choice, but its expected the higher you get and you shouldn't be taxing lanes either. At the end of the day, unless you play a hypercarry like yi or something, you won't really be able to fully impact the game by keeping up with your jungle camps as you normally scale worse than an AD or a midlaner. So you'll just lose more games where the other jungler is playing the game properly and you aren't.

Gooliope10/5/2019, 10:35:28 PM2 votes

I don't mind the Jungler taxing my lane unless I'm already: A) Trying to freeze lane or B) Really behind on cs I'll say check on what your teammates are trying to do with minion management and how their cs is doing. Communicate with them, type in chat before they start going to your Jungle and say you need the farm so they don't take it. That's what I typically do when I get autofilled Jungle, and teammates are nice about it. If they ignore and just being toxic all you can do is mute.

C9 Aphrolift10/8/2019, 5:08:19 PM1 votes

It's very subjective. IMO the map resources are shared. So your 8/0 ADC probably shouldn't have to ask to take "your" red buff. And you probably shouldn't run and tax their lane if they take it. If you ping them and ask them not to take it they probably shouldn't take it. But as a "support" style jungler you should be okay parting with resources if its improving the strength of a more key member that increases your chances of winning.

Adea5510/5/2019, 4:14:17 PM1 votes

naw man if the complain every time u go in for a gank CS TAX THAT ASS any time i show up to lane i take about 3CS for me coming out of my way and if they complain next time i show up ill clear the wave.....

Buckeye200210/7/2019, 8:46:06 PM1 votes

I have friend that freak out when people take their cs and I don't, unless the player doing it sucks and is way behind. If a person is carrying, then take all the stuff you need...if you suck, well I'm taking all your stuff.....