Another ban for swearing? Makes tons of sense! (Paragraphed)

Zached··1 votes·1,118 views

I swear in chat sometimes now these days and people claim it to be toxic, which its not. Then I got mad in chat today because I was having a bad morning. I felt little angry that someone died for first blood so I opened my mouth and got flamed. Now I get to wait 2 weeks for an unban, which I don't think is fair for swearing or being mad. I think this is unfair when you rage because you having a bad morning. Everyone has bad mornings or days in general. I've been banned 4 times now for swearing in chat, which everyone does. One of my friends who constantly says a lot of stuff in chat has no ban which is complete BS. The punishment should be chat restrictions or not aloud to use chat, not a 2 week ban. So because of this dumb and stupid thing that happened I get to enjoy most of Christmas break playing on a smurf account instead of climbing. This community has been so unfair to me and people way worse than me get still play with no punishments that so fair. It's funny what stuff you get banned for these days. I'm not saying I didn't do anything I'm saying its unfair that I got a 2 week ban for swearing in chat because that is to long on of a punishment. In the middle of the game I apologized for my behavior because I was being a jackass I said: "I'm srry that I was being a jackass can you forgive me plz". My teammates answers "Aw look his mommy came in and made him apologize". I reported the player for being a jackass and they don't get a 2 week ban. Something needs to be changed with punishments because they are just getting out of hand. People who intentionally feed get 5 game chat restrictions (that's fair), AFKs get 20 game chat restrictions, but when I swear in chat its a 2 week ban. Great idea, punish the people who swear harshly over people who intentionally feed and AFK(or both). I'm outraged at this and very disappointed, it's just dumb. Someone please help me get others to notice this so that people who suffer the same punishment can get change by not being punished for doing almost nothing.

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Zombiemaster8 votes

I swear in chat sometimes now these days and people claim it to be toxic, which its not. Then I got mad in chat today because I was having a bad morning. I felt little angry that someone died for first blood so I opened my mouth and got flamed. Now I get to wait 2 weeks for an unban, which I don't think is fair for swearing or being mad. I think this is unfair when you rage because you having a bad morning. Everyone has bad mornings or days in general.

You're right that everyone has a bad day now and then, and the system actually does take that into account. While being toxic is definitely not acceptable, if you behave like that very infrequently, it's not likely that you will be punished. You only get punished when your occasional bad days are happening more frequently than a large majority of other players.

Also, if you received a 2 week ban, that means that either you have already received 2 sets of chat restrictions recently, or that your behavior was severe enough to skip the chat restrictions and be escalated straight to a 2 week ban.

I've been banned 4 times now for swearing in chat, which everyone does. One of my friends who constantly says a lot of stuff in chat has no ban which is complete BS. The punishment should be chat restrictions or not aloud to use chat, not a 2 week ban. So because of this dumb and stupid thing that happened I get to enjoy most of Christmas break playing on a smurf account instead of climbing. This community has been so unfair to me and people way worse than me get still play with no punishments that so fair. It's funny what stuff you get banned for these days. I'm not saying I didn't do anything I'm saying its unfair that I got a 2 week ban for swearing in chat because that is to long on of a punishment.

Swearing by itself isn't toxic or punished. It's when you're using those swears to be a jerk towards others that you get punished.

"Shit, I missed my ultimate!" - acceptable "Wow, you're shit at this game!" - not acceptable

As far as punishments go, for chat related offenses they are dealt with in tiers:

1.) 10 game chat restriction 2.) 25 game chat restriction 3.) 14 day ban 4.) Permanent Ban

You start out at the first tier for your first offense, and each subsequent offense moves you up one tier, regardless of how minor the offense may have been. It is possible to skip the lower tiers and jump straight to a 14 day or permanent ban if your behavior is severe enough, and it's also possible to lower your punishment tier if you go long enough without being punished.

So, they start out with chat restrictions, but if you continue your unacceptable behavior, then you will eventually face a 14 day and then possibly even a permanent ban. Since you say that you have been banned 4 times, I'm going to assume that you have already gone through the chat restriction tiers, in which case it's normal for you to receive a 14 day ban after that.

In the middle of the game I apologized for my behavior because I was being a jackass I said: "I'm srry that I was being a jackass can you forgive me plz". My teammates answers "Aw look his mommy came in and made him apologize". I reported the player for being a jackass and they don't get a 2 week ban.

As I mentioned above, the system is set up to take into account that everyone does have an occasional bad day. If you were both reported in that game but only you got punished, it's likely because the other player doesn't behave that way too often while you do.

Something needs to be changed with punishments because they are just getting out of hand. People who intentionally feed get 5 game chat restrictions (that's fair), AFKs get 20 game chat restrictions, but when I swear in chat its a 2 week ban. Great idea, punish the people who swear harshly over people who intentionally feed and AFK(or both). I'm outraged at this and very disappointed, it's just dumb. Someone please help me get others to notice this so that people who suffer the same punishment can get change by not being punished for doing almost nothing.

People who AFK or intentionally feed DO NOT get chat restrictions at all because that does not do anything to address the offense committed. When Riot bans an intentional feeder, they receive a 14 day ban right off the bat for the first punishment, and the second punishment (I believe) is a permanent ban. People who AFK in game receive a Low Priority Queue as a punishment, where they have to wait a certain amount of time before actually entering queue, and they have to do this for 5 completed matches. The amount of time they have to wait increases if they continue to AFK.

Laughing Fish2 votes

While being toxic is definitely not acceptable, if you behave like that very infrequently, it's not likely that you will be punished.

Exactly. Hell, the fact I haven't even received a chat restriction yet shows how forgiving the system really is lol

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Hey what are you doing here!

You must not soil your feet in the cesspool of any board that isn't M&Gs!

Go back to your heavenly realm while the mortals handle things here!

Laughing Fish3 votes

Sometimes I decend to the realm of peasants to offer my infinite wisdom. https://media.giphy.com/media/AmPLGeRK0vSj6/giphy.gif

Flaherty6 votes

You don't get banned for just swearing, you get banned for directing swears at people. There's a big difference there

Void Nargacuga2 votes

I would highly recommend posting the chat logs from your in client reform card.

PrimeWraith1 votes

Cuss in a sports team, see who gets kicked out then

Ap Mid Burst1 votes

Maybe rito should get people off for Christmas, but if it was any other time i would still agree with the ban.

EvilDustMan10 votes

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Maybe rito should get people off for Christmas, but if it was any other time i would still agree with the ban.

Maybe people shouldn't be dicks for Christmas.

Dominick Destine1 votes

This is a result of the draconian system.

[inb4 "That's your response for everything"]

TyrekGoldenspear7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=F9GOAErE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-12-18T22:57:11.666+0000)

This is a result of the draconian system.

[inb4 "That's your response for everything"]

Isn't this your response for everything?

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Isn't this your response for everything?

No. Sometimes I throw in other words in between 'draconian'.

No but seriously, referring to the draconian system is common in a place where people are being butchered by the draconian system. You have to name the problem before you can address it.

HexaDecimel5 votes

But the problem's name is Dominick not Draconian........similar I know.

Dominick Destine1 votes

I'm sure that sounded clever in your mind, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

HexaDecimel4 votes

It was pretty clever, thank you for noticing...

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

It was pretty clever

Only in your mind, it was complete nonsense in actuality.

This is why you will never defeat me.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

As I am somewhat fond of saying, I have been defeated before, but it will not be by you or the others that desperately flail around trying to 'win'.

This is one of the reasons why I consider Ariel the Cruel my equal; I respect those with high intelligence and the ability to formulate precision arguments. Remember that emotions are bad and only serve to cloud one's judgment.

HexaDecimel2 votes

Hold on one moment..........I don't flail, that's a draconian technique.

And I am pretty sure the only people you respect are the ones that share your own narrow views.

In order to have true understanding one must embrace all aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow views that appeal to some. In order to obtain true wisdom you must embrace a larger view.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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the only people you respect are the ones that share your own narrow views.

Oh? what makes you say that?

One of the people I hold in highest esteem on these boards is someone that has defeated me on two different occasions. Your argument holds no water.

In order to have true understanding one must embrace all aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow views that appeal to some. In order to obtain true wisdom you must embrace a larger view.

..... I never thought I'd see someone copy/paste from the Prequel Trilogy. [Time stamp 1:32 in case you are using FEK and the link doesn't take you there automatically]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dATuq8O3920&t=1m32s

To be fair though , Revenge of the Sith is the best SW film hands down, utterly pillage and plundering SW7 on every level. So props for taking from that.

Of the prequel trilogy I don't really like The Phatom Menace and I hate Attack of the Clones, but I will defend Revenge of the Sith as one of , if not THE best of the series.

HexaDecimel3 votes

While I was borrowing the essence of that scene it was by no means a, "copy/paste", and I had high hopes you would recognize that. Damn it man you continue to disappoint.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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While I was borrowing the essence of that scene it was by no means a, "copy/paste"

Do you really want me to compare what you wrote with the script of Revenge of the Sith? you copied it nearly verbatim, with the Star Wars references removed obviously.

You were caught, just admit you plagiarized it and move on.

HexaDecimel1 votes

What do you mean I am caught? I already said in the last post that I used the essence of that quote. Pointing out what I already stated is a bit redundant.

On a side note I am not getting the impression that you are very skilled in conversing with women.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Your like of Revenge of the Sith just made me tolerate you a little more.

Hands down the best SW film.

HexaDecimel1 votes

I would rank them in this order: Ep.3 > Ep.6 > Rogue One > Ep.4 > Ep.5 > Ep.7 > Ep.2 > Ep.1.

I loved Darth Maul and Qui-Gon but hated Jar Jar and Anakin. In the second movie I loved some of the duels, Jango Fett, and the start of the war. But I hated the awful dialog and cheesy moments.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

{quoted}

I would rank them in this order: Ep.3 > Ep.6 > Rogue One > Ep.4 > Ep.5 > Ep.7 > Ep.2 > Ep.1.

I loved Darth Maul and Qui-Gon but hated Jar Jar and Anakin. In the second movie I loved some of the duels, Jango Fett, and the start of the war. But I hated the awful dialog and cheesy moments.

Your ranking is quite similar to mine, so agreed.

Haven't seen Rouge One yet but I know I won't be disappointed.

On the topic of Episode 1 or 2, I actually tie them. The thing about Episode 1 that makes it tie with 2 imo is the final lightsaber battle (complete with epic soundtrack) and the podrace.

HexaDecimel1 votes

I thought Rogue One was amazing, not a perfect movie, but an awesome prequel to New Hope.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Actually... It makes perfect sense and you are defeated.

Let me explain.

You are in fact a problem, to the system.

You came in stating that the system was a problem, correct? mentioned here in this quote:

No but seriously, referring to the draconian system is common in a place where people are being butchered by the draconian system. You have to name the problem before you can address it.

So this is where Hex comes in and says that you are in fact the problem. While you may not think of yourself as the problem, the fact is that she is correct. You and your ideals are a problem to the system, and you cannot deny this or you imply collusion with the system.

Case closed. I'll be here all week.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Actually... It makes perfect sense and you are defeated.

I will be amused by your attempt to present a deeply flawed argument, so let's see....

You are in fact a problem, to the system.

Nope.

You came in stating that the system was a problem, correct?

Somewhat correct, I am advocating for reform or removal of the system.

The problem is not the "system" part, it's the "draconian" part... it's really not that complicated.

this is where Hex comes in and says that you are in fact the problem.

Except you still have not demonstrated that.... the cornerstone of your argument is flimsy to say the least.

the fact is that she is correct.

Except he and you are both completely wrong .... failing to produce any evidence or argument that I have violated the summoner code or am in any way causing the draconian system to be harmed. Advocating against leftist/feminist dogma is not wrong as long as it is done in a civil manner.

If my posts consisted of "TROLOL F UR STUPED SYSTEM U BUNDLE FO STICKS ALAHAHAHAHWIEHAIJFDSIAF" then you might have a point.

You and your ideals are a problem to the system

And your argument for the above quoted is....? oh yeah you present none.

and you cannot deny this or you imply collusion with the system.

Do you even know what the word collusion means?!

Case closed

Well at least that last part was funny.

I should start doing that;

"HERE IS MY ARGUMENT, CASE CLOSED" trolololol.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

"HERE IS MY ARGUMENT, CASE CLOSED" trolololol.

Except that you already do.

You just use the thesaurus more liberally than most.:)

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Just shoot me a request. :)

HexaDecimel4 votes

Lol, its kind of entertaining watching him attempt to misdirect and cover himself.

He is never able to support his reasons why the system is an issue. He can never come up with a decent response or even a joke so he is forced to resort nitpicking comments without context, claiming an argument is full of holes without providing evidence, and claiming he is right without supporting the claim.

He is just all bent out of shape that the system correctly identified his behaviour and caught him.

At the end of the day all that matters is: Am I toxic or a troll? No, and I have never received a punishment. So far that aspect of the system seems to be working for me. Have people who I have reported received punishments? Yes. So far that part of the system is working. And I have enough of a brain to understand that players don't always act the same way every game, not every one deserves a punishment for the odd slip up, and not all forms of trolling are as easy to detect.

There are people who make level headed suggestions on ways to improve the system. All while understanding that the current one serves an important purpose. And then there are the toxic trolls that sit around complaining about it and crying about the draconian system that is oppressing their rights. lol

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Yep. It gets kinda obvious after a bit that he is scrambling to at least get out of it with his ego intact.

Good thing we're here to call him out on his nonsense. He's not a bad guy though, he's just a little too... stubborn in his ways and will not admit when he's wrong.

HexaDecimel1 votes

Ya probably....

Selegun1 votes

Move your chat key to F12. Don't knock it untill you try it.

Zached1 votes

ty for the amzing idea

Selegun1 votes

Np, it has been helping a friend of mine for a while now. Since he cant remember the key quickly it gives him a chance to consider if what he types is really worth sending.

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