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Ridicoulous Honor system

BiochemicalZombi··3 votes·1,503 views

So basically i got a chat restriction for telling a player that he was trash, Keep in mind i called him trash once...

Due to the fact he admited to not trying in ranked games....

I was non toxic for 2 months straight, I even told the guy in the game i got restricted for to untilt i was trying my best to encourage him to play

Honor lvl 1 Checkpoint 1/3 almost 2/3

Due to ONE GAME. ONE GAME WITH A PLAYER THAT PURPOSELY GAVE UP , ADMITTED TO IT.

2 month of hard work is gone... Really, the funniest shit is that when i talked to support about it they said that it is a "Minor penalty" and will serve as a warning. what part of 2 months did you not understand. i was not toxic for 2 months and getting that work removed is a minor penalty, due to one game. A completely isolated game with a admitted thrower gets you chat restriction

nice system. And the reason was that "I wasnt using the chat system correctly because i was arguing with other players and that takes the focus of the chat system away"

??? So arguing is a punishable offense nice, I would be fine with this punishment if there was more than one game i was even close to toxic. but it was 1 game where i called someone trash one time for throwing, the only other thing that would be remotely discouraging is when i told someone that they should have the game knowledge at plat 2-3 w/e it was that when you see someone from talk walk to river to not facecheck the bush top side right after u see them walk in it.

Game 1 Pre-Game BiochemicalZombi: Can someone ban ashe BiochemicalZombi: .. BiochemicalZombi: they are just going to jump on me In-Game BiochemicalZombi: tf first? BiochemicalZombi: they might lvl 2 bot watchout BiochemicalZombi: drain BiochemicalZombi: its beena min BiochemicalZombi: nv BiochemicalZombi: no f heal BiochemicalZombi: ig BiochemicalZombi: bot BiochemicalZombi: tf could u roam on that BiochemicalZombi: oh just buttfuck top nv BiochemicalZombi: dont use E BiochemicalZombi: i can freeze BiochemicalZombi: shes gonna have f soon BiochemicalZombi: panth 6 BiochemicalZombi: sorry BiochemicalZombi: wtf BiochemicalZombi: oh BiochemicalZombi: wait i thought fid r was upxd BiochemicalZombi: tf can bot get some love BiochemicalZombi: no heal trist BiochemicalZombi: mfw i get ganked before i get ganks BiochemicalZombi: ??? BiochemicalZombi: U JUST WALKING INTO IT AHH BiochemicalZombi: WHAT THE FUCK BiochemicalZombi: wnna lose? BiochemicalZombi: 0/1 to 2/1 BiochemicalZombi: im BiochemicalZombi: about BiochemicalZombi: to tilt BiochemicalZombi: in what universe do we go for a 1v3 BiochemicalZombi: please play around me BiochemicalZombi: lol BiochemicalZombi: no zhonas? BiochemicalZombi: god BiochemicalZombi: ????? BiochemicalZombi: ye BiochemicalZombi: ward pls BiochemicalZombi: we need camile BiochemicalZombi: for teamfihts BiochemicalZombi: she gets zed off me BiochemicalZombi: regroup BiochemicalZombi: god BiochemicalZombi: this BiochemicalZombi: tf please untilt BiochemicalZombi: im done BiochemicalZombi: FF BiochemicalZombi: FF BiochemicalZombi: F BiochemicalZombi: AF" BiochemicalZombi: as/h BiochemicalZombi: trash BiochemicalZombi: plat BiochemicalZombi: player BiochemicalZombi: all i have to say BiochemicalZombi: stop getting caught BiochemicalZombi: You should have enough game knowledge to realize zed and panth will just 1v1 BiochemicalZombi: cmon BiochemicalZombi: yeah BiochemicalZombi: yep BiochemicalZombi: we saw swain top BiochemicalZombi: walk downwards BiochemicalZombi: where did u think he went BiochemicalZombi: a portal to narnia? BiochemicalZombi: I just get pissed when people play so bad BiochemicalZombi: Im telling the truth BiochemicalZombi: its game knowledge BiochemicalZombi: he walked down i mean BiochemicalZombi: if ur ignoring that ur just throwing BiochemicalZombi: yeah BiochemicalZombi: . BiochemicalZombi: We can still win this BiochemicalZombi: we have to stop getting caught BiochemicalZombi: our comp is much better BiochemicalZombi: i dont know why you guys just soft int it BiochemicalZombi: play right and its +25 just thinkl BiochemicalZombi: ??? BiochemicalZombi: what is this team BiochemicalZombi: ggwp BiochemicalZombi: report top BiochemicalZombi: mid BiochemicalZombi: jg BiochemicalZombi: thanks Post-Game BiochemicalZombi: You have xin and tf BiochemicalZombi: constantly camping top BiochemicalZombi: your 3/1 what do you do BiochemicalZombi: Camile what do you think about this situation BiochemicalZombi: "Lets try to 1v1 zed bot" BiochemicalZombi: Welp i just got that BiochemicalZombi: so hes griefing

This was the only game. Is this enough to get my 2 months of fucking niceness completely deleted due to one game. nice system wonderful. even if i was even close to "Toxic" which i wasn't it shouldnt be one day. This is my 2nd ever punishment too so why am i on thin ice.

EDIT: Please list out the parts where i was too toxic and why it would have made it so 1 game was enough for me to get a punishment

10 Comments

Chermorg4 votes

You were argumentative, you tried to boss others around, you acted like the expert on all things League, and you were generally a jerk virtually the entire game.

Yes, this is certainly worthy of punishment, and no, you do not deserve honor if this is how you act in games. Honor is designed to honor those players who, through victory and defeat, complete smashes and complete feed-fests, through good games and bad, remain cool, calm, collected, and, well, honorable. You've shown through this (and very likely other games that were either too minor or not recent enough to show in your reform card) that you do not deserve honor.

Please note that punishments do escalate over time, up to and including a permanent ban, even for what you may think is "minor" toxicity. Stop blaming others, stop insulting them, stop acting like you know more than them, and stop trying to turn your team against each other.

BiochemicalZombi1 votes

{quoted}

You were argumentative, you tried to boss others around, you acted like the expert on all things League, and you were generally a jerk virtually the entire game.

Yes, this is certainly worthy of punishment, and no, you do not deserve honor if this is how you act in games. Honor is designed to honor those players who, through victory and defeat, complete smashes and complete feed-fests, through good games and bad, remain cool, calm, collected, and, well, honorable. You've shown through this (and very likely other games that were either too minor or not recent enough to show in your reform card) that you do not deserve honor.

Please note that punishments do escalate over time, up to and including a permanent ban, even for what you may think is "minor" toxicity. Stop blaming others, stop insulting them, stop acting like you know more than them, and stop trying to turn your team against each other.

Heres the thing, I admit i acted like a jerk, one game, where someone admits to throwing on purpose. They were obviously doing and i only flipped out 1 game, You mention that there might be games that werent recent enough to be on the reform card... So how recent is this, is riot a small indie company that cannot keep chat logs for longer than 2 months?

  1. I dont flame people for feeding, I tell them "Hey stop getting caught out" , If thats flaming then wow. In this instance as i said i called him trash because as he said in game/post game dont remember he said something along the lines of "I dont even care about winning im just practicing champions."

Your wasting my time, the time the game took, and the time it will take to get the progress back. and i cant call him trash. once.

  1. Riot should be capable enough to give more than 1 game as a reason for the ban. The reform card is suppose to show you whats not allowed, so how am i suppose to do that when i basically only got one sample of one instance i called someone trash for throwing

Does this tell me im suppose to just encourage him wasting my time.

TL:DR, Why is it that riot can only give me one instance in a 2month span where i was "Arguing to much" To justify a chat restriction... where there was a person throwing

Maybe riots a small indie company who cant keep chat logs longer than 2months. Also i dont act like this in all games even with feeders, only when they intentionally do it.

Chermorg2 votes

  1. Even one game is too much. Riot will overlook one bad game in a blue moon if that's all you have. But you admit your honor was already low - you've been punished before and returned to this sort of behavior.

  2. You may not consider it flaming, but you're constantly belittling others for their poor play and what you see as the wrong decisions. Even when you're not flaming them, you're still trying to act like the boss and as if you're the expert - that is not okay. Everyone in League has their autonomy to decide how the game is best won. There is no enforced required meta, there is no required playstyle, build, runes, etc. You have no right to attempt to pressure people to follow your bidding.

  3. They certainly can keep chat logs (and do) for longer than a week. However, it does no good to show you age-old chat you won't remember even saying. The goal of the reform card is to give you an example of what behavior is not okay - it is not designed to show all of the behavior that you've done is not okay.

Again, it is not this one instance most likely. Given you said you didn't increase in honor over those 2 months, it's very likely (almost guaranteed) you are behaving poorly in games - even if those games weren't enough to get you punished again. You should not need more than one game - you know this is not allowed, I suspect this is what led to your prior punishment(s), and you still chose to repeat this sort of argumentative and "I'm better than you" attitude in game.

And by the way, someone playing poorly is not intentionally feeding. Someone not listening to you is not intentionally feeding. Someone making a decision that you disagree with is not intentionally feeding. Maybe they didn't see the 1v3 and thought they'd get a pick. Maybe they thought they could win that fight. If they didn't intend to feed, it's not intentionally feeding.

BiochemicalZombi1 votes

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  1. Even one game is too much. Riot will overlook one bad game in a blue moon if that's all you have. But you admit your honor was already low - you've been punished before and returned to this sort of behavior.

  2. You may not consider it flaming, but you're constantly belittling others for their poor play and what you see as the wrong decisions. Even when you're not flaming them, you're still trying to act like the boss and as if you're the expert - that is not okay. Everyone in League has their autonomy to decide how the game is best won. There is no enforced required meta, there is no required playstyle, build, runes, etc. You have no right to attempt to pressure people to follow your bidding.

  3. They certainly can keep chat logs (and do) for longer than a week. However, it does no good to show you age-old chat you won't remember even saying. The goal of the reform card is to give you an example of what behavior is not okay - it is not designed to show all of the behavior that you've done is not okay.

Again, it is not this one instance most likely. Given you said you didn't increase in honor over those 2 months, it's very likely (almost guaranteed) you are behaving poorly in games - even if those games weren't enough to get you punished again. You should not need more than one game - you know this is not allowed, I suspect this is what led to your prior punishment(s), and you still chose to repeat this sort of argumentative and "I'm better than you" attitude in game.

And by the way, someone playing poorly is not intentionally feeding. Someone not listening to you is not intentionally feeding. Someone making a decision that you disagree with is not intentionally feeding. Maybe they didn't see the 1v3 and thought they'd get a pick. Maybe they thought they could win that fight. If they didn't intend to feed, it's not intentionally feeding.

  1. This prior punishment was actually on FEB 9th and that was my first punishment nothing before that

  2. I Already said multiple times that he is not deciding how to best win the game because hes not trying to win. Not sure why you even said this as i've said i called the player who was not trying to win Trash. like he actually said he wasnt trying to win.

  3. Even if i don't remember saying anything if i did say, its still examples of whats not ok. Just because i dont remember saying it doesnt mean i cant identifiy if it was wrong... ?????

I Wasn't gaining honor for a long time that i had a suspicion that my account was just permanently honor locked and which i asked support to which they responded "I am happy to provide you with insight on your honor progression! I have good news for you, you have successfully moved your way up to earning honor at a normal pace. I audited your account and you are currently earning honor progress at a normal rate as of 2/18. You are very close to earning your first checkpoint in progression through honor level 0. If you continue to play with a non-toxic attitude and accrue more honor, you are now climbing with a normal progression through our honor system and should get level 1 soon!

I hope this helps! Please let me know if you have any other questions." This was on April 2nd 2018, 8:16:02 pm

I mean how was i suspose to know that my account wasn't able to gain honor through FEB-April,

The fact i have to ask someone to remove the honor lock is enough to show this system is flawed.

So basically i gained from Honor 0 through 3 checkpoints to Honor 1 1/3 Within a month.

And yes someone playing poorly is not intentionally feeding, you know whats intentionally feeding? maybe i forgot to mention but yeah, the guy said he wasn't trying and was practicing new champions. Did i forget to mention this in my thread?

I noticed that throughout your replies you are assuming that the guy i called trash was just playing poorly so let me bold this out for you

HE CLEARLY STATED HE WAS NOT TRYING IT WAS NOT THAT HE WAS PLAYING BAD, HE ADMITTED TO WASTING MY TEAMS TIME BECAUSE HE WAS NOT TRYING TO WIN THEREFORE UNDER THE REPORT CATEGORY NEGATIVE ATTITUDE - Griefing, Giving up

Chermorg1 votes

It doesn't matter if he broke the rules first, that does not give you the right to flame, harass, or abuse him.

Kei1432 votes

Teehee. It's not just for 1 game. Reform card shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished solely for this game.

If you write to support and ask them how many games you were validly reported I the past 3 months, you'll probably get a better understanding of your toxicity habits.

exxpose1 votes

Have you tried submitting a Support Ticket before making this thread?

BiochemicalZombi1 votes

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Have you tried submitting a Support Ticket before making this thread?

I said in the thread that i made a support ticket

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

That was a lot more than one trash.

sleepysithlord1 votes

There is basically nothing you can do if someone griefs you in game. Just try to let the enemy team end as fast as possible so you can get out of the game ASAP. You can't yell at the griefer and you can't quit the game without getting punished. Just gotta let the enemy end and get the hell out of there

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