Isn't it annoying when you have someone selected, and someone on your team decides to ban them. that just happened to me so I dodged because it was the only mid champion that I was confident to play in ranked. I then got negative lp. I wish there was a way to punish these people, or some way to report them in the lobby.
KVbqbFsC8e9 votesPlayers should be allowed to ban whatever champion they want.
BlueWaterBelow6 votesDisagree. I have been in multiple scenarios, especially now that roles are assigned and autofills happen, where someone doesnt like their role, will say "I'm taking (x) btw", ban that persons champion to discourage them, etc. And they're right, there's never a punishment for this kind of trolling, and frankly there should be. That's toxic, not to mention extremely rude. But if someone bullies their way into the lane it's just expected that the person assigned to (x) back down and just give it to them to "avoid conflict". That's not the proper way to handle the situation imo, it encourages that kind of behavior.
2TwoDarra3 votesYup you are completely right BlueWaterBelow
UnknownTerritory1 votesDisagree. I have been in multiple scenarios, especially now that roles are assigned and autofills happen, where someone doesnt like their role, will say "I'm taking (x) btw", ban that persons champion to discourage them, etc. And they're right, there's never a punishment for this kind of trolling, and frankly there should be. That's toxic, not to mention extremely rude. But if someone bullies their way into the lane it's just expected that the person assigned to (x) back down and just give it to them to "avoid conflict". That's not the proper way to handle the situation imo, it encourages that kind of behavior.
I agree with you
TrulyBland1 votes"Whatever champion" does not necessarily imply "for whatever reason". I agree that players should not be allowed to ban hovered champions with malicious intent, but the trouble here is that you are looking at one single action. You can't deduce intent from that unless they openly state it... and if you start punishing for that, people will just stop openly stating their intent.
As sad as it is, a system that detects whether people openly state that they are intentionally trolling their teammates is likely not worth the resources, given how quickly people would start avoiding it.
And disabling the ability to ban hovered champions entirely just shifts the potential for trolling to the other end of the spectrum: hovering a champion to block high priority bans without having the intention to pick the champion.
Skywalker iLi4 votesIf you can only use "one" champion, then ranked is not for you
TheEvilQueen1352 votesthere are many reasons why someone might have banned a hovered champ. they might have looked at match history and saw 0 play or poor play, someone might be trying to take a role from someone, they might be worried about the other team getting the champ, champ might be bad in rest of team comp or meta... the big one that makes it allowed is the one where they are worried about the enemy team getting the champ
Paíntchip1 votesthere are many reasons why someone might have banned a hovered champ. they might have looked at match history and saw 0 play or poor play, someone might be trying to take a role from someone, they might be worried about the other team getting the champ, champ might be bad in rest of team comp or meta... the big one that makes it allowed is the one where they are worried about the enemy team getting the champ
Or it is a Yasuo and you just want watch them shit their pants.
Quiet Dude2 votesPeople are allowed to ban whom they please, regardless if their team wants to play them or not. It goes the same way if someone with a higher pick order than you chooses to use a champion you want to play.
You may not like it, but it’s your responsibility to continue being a team player, or you could dodge.
Apollo 2221 votesIsn't it annoying when you have someone selected, and someone on your time decides to ban them. that just happened to me so I dodged because it was the only mid champion that I was confident to play in ranked. I then got negative lp. I wish there was a way to punish these people, or some way to report them in the lobby.
btw it just happened to nme to dont worry man
The Iceborn1 votesI dont understand why your post is being downvoted... I agree with you there are people who literally troll and ban your champion and it is not about banning whoever you want, which of course people can do BUT theres also the case where people ban your champion on purpose to spite you which is crazy :/
On the other hand I always ban the new champions that have just been reworked in ranked because the level of experience is lacking so if somebody picks a brand new champion with barely any play time I will for sure ban that.
Now people can argue with me that everyone can ban whoever they want but the game is about teamplay and playing your best*[poppy-wink]*
HavokDash1 votesGuess what, Its banning phase, People can ban who they want. I will admit, I dont care if a player on my team picks Yi, I am banning it. Yi is a headache as an enemy, but is pretty much a guaranteed loss as an ally
Yi players are arrogant, narcissistic and only interested in themselves. They will wait 20-30 minutes and will not help lanes until after they are LVL 10 with 6-0 jungle kills and 100 cs before they even think of assisting lanes. And when the enemy jungler camps a lane while they are hiding out in thier jungle waiting till they are "OP ENUF" to start helping lanes. They will Blame a lost lane on the Laners, NOT the fact they were non-existant while the enemy jungler was active and camped the lane.
SO yeah, IDGAF if a yi is on my team, I am banning them. Less headache. You can cry all you want But Its a banning phase and I dont want to deal with a yi on either side. So I am banning a CHAMPION OF MY CHOOSING. Yi One-tricks, mains, Kiss your selection goodbye You people are more interested in controlling your entire match to fit your ego, I am getting rather sick of it,
HolyJellyMate3 votesGuess what, Its banning phase, People can ban who they want. I will admit, I dont care if a player on my team picks Yi, I am banning it. Yi is a headache as an enemy, but is pretty much a guaranteed loss as an ally
Yi players are arrogant, narcissistic and only interested in themselves. They will wait 20-30 minutes and will not help lanes until after they are LVL 10 with 6-0 jungle kills and 100 cs before they even think of assisting lanes. And when the enemy jungler camps a lane while they are hiding out in thier jungle waiting till they are "OP ENUF" to start helping lanes. They will Blame a lost lane on the Laners, NOT the fact they were non-existant while the enemy jungler was active and camped the lane.
SO yeah, IDGAF if a yi is on my team, I am banning them. Less headache. You can cry all you want But Its a banning phase and I dont want to deal with a yi on either side. So I am banning a CHAMPION OF MY CHOOSING. Yi One-tricks, mains, Kiss your selection goodbye You people are more interested in controlling your entire match to fit your ego, I am getting rather sick of it,
Ok now you're just posing a stereotype lol. I know a Yi main irl and she's a very generous person, and her ego is not bad at all. Lol, I hope she doesn't get queued up with you in champ select.
HavokDash1 votesStereotypes exist for a reason.
TrulyBland1 votesThat reason most of the time being negativity bias and confirmation bias. Sometimes there's also misunderstanding the actual data, and in political cases there's often intentional misinformation spread by people with ulterior motives. Oh, and of course there is the extremely rare cases where a stereotype actually reflects a correlation… and even in those cases that stereotype is typically blown massively out of proportion due to the aforementioned reasons.
Stereotypes exist for a reason indeed. The problem is most people have no fucking clue what that reason is.
HavokDash1 votesAnd My reason for banning Yi is On the enemy side: A dangerous threat, a risk to my game and On the ally side: A dangerous threat/risk to my game, dont want to listen to them go on and on "one more item and I will carry, I will start ganking lanes" (when its already 15 minutes in, Bot is lost, enemy adc is fed and Yi goes on about how its bot's fault the enemy jungler camped bot lane). And I really dont want to listen to them go on about how much they are a "plat smurf with yi"
TrulyBland1 votesI basically just told you "Stereotypes exist mainly because of bias and ignorance." And your response is "I use stereotypes to justify banning Yi."
I'm sorry, but what kind of a response is that? I mean, what's your point here? That stereotypes are good, because you use them? Or did you think that explaining the stereotype some more would make it sound less like a stereotype?
You really lost me here.
HavokDash1 votes9/10 Yis act arrogant, narcissist and completely full of themselves, they will not leave the jungle and gank lanes untill the 20 minute mark, they are lvl 10, and have a 6/0 kda before even leaving the jungle. If the lane is lost, they will say "I dont gank "feeding lanes" when the lane got fed BECAUSE of them. So Sorry But I consider those odds a serious threat to my game, so I dont care about hearsay about a "good yi player" So I would rather ban the 9/10 bad (as in the arrogant, narcissists who only care about how "OP" they look) teammate yi players rather than sit around waiting and hoping for a good one who actually helps the lane.
TrulyBland1 votesSo... where exactly are you getting that 9/10 number from? Are you keeping tabs, marking down every Yi that manages to sneak his way into your games?
Or did you just make up that number to make it sound like what you are doing isn't the exact kind of stereotyping I point out as being ignorant and biased?
I mean, you're still not actually using any actual arguments. You continue to explain what stereotype you believe in, but not how that stereotype is valid or justified. Why is it that you are so certain that you, you alone, are immune to the biases every other human is subjected to?
HavokDash1 votesI dont care what sort of biases you feel you can ascribe to me, that you can dictate that I have. Its simple. Almost EVERY Yi in my games are completely full of themselves, they think that all that matters is how "OP" they look and want to spend the whole game patting themselves on the back at the cost of everyone else. Therefore in order to Reduce the number of games I lose because Yi would rather run off yolo solo and spout "Dont end, noobs. I want a penta" I ban ANY yi in EVERY game. I am not looking for your approval, I really dont care. I am Not stating a debate, I am stating a FACT. I Ban YI EVERY GAME!
It is that simple. I dont care if it hurts thier feelings because they dont get to go around flaunting how they can run around in the jungle for 20 minutes spouting "Just wait for me I will carry" Because by that time the Enemy jungler has already camped bot, harrassed and pressured them to no end, and Bot lane ends up getting lost. Then after bot is lost and the laners are PINGING FOR HELP, these yi players simply respond with "you fed, I dont gank feeding lanes" So to nip that arrogance and ego in the bud, I BAN YI. I dont care how much of a tantrum these children throw. I am here to try and win my match, not help coddle some Call of duty toddler looking to score more internet points.
Again, what I stated is meant as a statement, a Fact. I dont care if you think its right or wrong. I came to a conclusion that Yi is a threat to my game, and so in banning phase...I BAN YI.
Is that clear enough for you?
TrulyBland1 votesClear as can be.
If something feels like it helps you win games you don't care the slightest bit about whether it actually helps, even when it affects other people.
I find it rather ironic that you would cite arrogance and ego as the reason why you ban Yi.
HavokDash1 votesYou step on a nail 9/10 times and find out it hurts, you gonna keep stepping on that nail waiting for it to start feeling good? or gonna remove it as it poses a risk.
Yeah, They created a banning phase to remove RISKS from the game. Just because the person is on your team, doesnt mean they arent a risk. And I am not arrogant or egotistical, I am using common sense and previous experience. Come back with someething else.
TrulyBland1 votesIt is scientific fact that human memory is utterly unreliable, especially when it comes to frequency of events especially negative events especially negative events that confirm ones own world view.
So when you say that you rely exclusively on your own personal experience to make a decision that sabotages one of your teammates plans there are only two possible conclusions:
Option 1: You believe that your personal experience is more reliable than that of virtually every other human on the planet. That would make you arrogant.
Option 2: You believe that your beliefs of how to help the team are more important than the beliefs of the player you are sabotaging. That would make you egotistical.
So, which of the two is it? Might even be both.
HavokDash1 votesWhen did I ever say I relied -exclusively- on previous experiences. Yes I rely on previous experiences to shape my decisions, but who said it is exclusively based on that. Again and again you seem to put words in my mouth and thoughts in my head. You claim I believe things I dont. As Its all black and white. Its a lovely looking fallacy. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/eitheror.html
Learn not to attribute things to other people that they dont express. Never once did I say that my decisions are based Purely and -exclusively- on previous experience. You ignored everything else i said so you could try and shove me into your little "black and white" box ("Either you are egotistical, or you are arrogant, you can only chose one, or both)
I have made my point quite clear. Have a good day.
Paíntchip1 votesGuess what, Its banning phase, People can ban who they want. I will admit, I dont care if a player on my team picks Yi, I am banning it. Yi is a headache as an enemy, but is pretty much a guaranteed loss as an ally
Yi players are arrogant, narcissistic and only interested in themselves. They will wait 20-30 minutes and will not help lanes until after they are LVL 10 with 6-0 jungle kills and 100 cs before they even think of assisting lanes. And when the enemy jungler camps a lane while they are hiding out in thier jungle waiting till they are "OP ENUF" to start helping lanes. They will Blame a lost lane on the Laners, NOT the fact they were non-existant while the enemy jungler was active and camped the lane.
SO yeah, IDGAF if a yi is on my team, I am banning them. Less headache. You can cry all you want But Its a banning phase and I dont want to deal with a yi on either side. So I am banning a CHAMPION OF MY CHOOSING. Yi One-tricks, mains, Kiss your selection goodbye You people are more interested in controlling your entire match to fit your ego, I am getting rather sick of it,
Sorry bro, but all I read was, “WAAHH!!!!!! JUNGLE GANK MY LANE NOW!!!!!! Report jg, shit jg won’t win my lane for me!”.
Yi carries team to win doing things his way and has over 20 kills and most damage to objectives. Only to read in end game chat, “Trash jg, report Yi”.
And Yi gets no honor (cuz this honor sustem is so not flawed).
HavokDash1 votesNah. Nice try but NO. I do not expect Junger to play my lane for me, and woudlnt want them to. Jungler isnt there to play the lane for you, Jungler is there to help get the enemy's boot off your neck so you can pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and tear thier spine out. Jungler's role is NOT to play your lane for you, it is a release valve to help get the pressure off so you can recompose yourself and actually get a friggin grip on the lane. Why do you think there are TWO junglers. When One jungler camps a lane? The other teams jungler is there to try and get them to back off.
That has nothing to do with yi junglers who never leave the jungle for 20+ minutes, go on the entire game about how amazing they are while doing shit all, and then when the enemy jungler strangles a lane to the point the enemy adc can get a double kill from something as simple as a Sneeze, yi will simply say "I dont gank feeding lanes" Well you didnt gank because there was nothing in it for yi's own personal aggrandizement. Nothing there to say "look at me and how totally amazing I AM" so Yeah, my point still remains, Yi is a risk whether he is on the enemy team or the ally team, both for different reasons. my reason to have yi as a perma-ban still stands
Paíntchip2 votesNah. Nice try but NO. I do not expect Junger to play my lane for me, and woudlnt want them to. Jungler isnt there to play the lane for you, Jungler is there to help get the enemy's boot off your neck so you can pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and tear thier spine out. Jungler's role is NOT to play your lane for you, it is a release valve to help get the pressure off so you can recompose yourself and actually get a friggin grip on the lane. Why do you think there are TWO junglers. When One jungler camps a lane? The other teams jungler is there to try and get them to back off.
That has nothing to do with yi junglers who never leave the jungle for 20+ minutes, go on the entire game about how amazing they are while doing shit all, and then when the enemy jungler strangles a lane to the point the enemy adc can get a double kill from something as simple as a Sneeze, yi will simply say "I dont gank feeding lanes" Well you didnt gank because there was nothing in it for yi's own personal aggrandizement. Nothing there to say "look at me and how totally amazing I AM" so Yeah, my point still remains, Yi is a risk whether he is on the enemy team or the ally team, both for different reasons. my reason to have yi as a perma-ban still stands
What does it matter if Yi ganks or not, as long as he carries you and you win?
And news flash, no matter what jg I play, I won’t gank a feeding lane.
ı Sona ı1 votesI have to admit, I ban my allies potential picks as well sometimes.
When Yasuos going mid and Ezreals going bot and the jungle is something light weight and highly circumstantial, and someone dodged the previous team and I end up on the opposite side of the team against the malphite sejuani graves miss fortune rakan comp, I just don't really want a Teemo to round out the loss, you know what I mean?
Sometimes to make sure your team wins you have to keep them from making bad choices. You don't mean to hurt them or be rude, but some players are lower level and just don't understand how to create a winning composition. You often get those who "will play the game however they want" and will swear and insult you no matter how often they feed.
To the OP, politely, it may be helpful if you learned more characters in normal before venturing into ranked if you only have one person to pick in the position you want. Politely.
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