@ Riot games! How to stop trolls, AFK's, and toxic players permanaitly!

ŽeroGravity·Dec 30, 2017·2 votes·1,431 views

ŽeroGravity Hello MR. Beck or Riot Corp.

I am contacting you because I have come up with a solid idea to resolve all issues when it comes to Players that Troll, AFK, Toxic, and have connection issues. My idea can be incorporated and integrated into the current system.

Why will it work?

1.The current ranked system seems nearly complete on Riots end, however my idea Can use your current/future rank system and integrate players end game reports to solve all complaints in the League Of Legends community!

Riot will not be held responsible for the actions taken because my idea is designed to make it the peoples/players choice and actions.

My idea will flush out trolls and AFK's with in the game and solve it permanently!

Perks for Riot Games for integrating my idea into the system=

Less costumers service on Riots end which means you will save money as a company because your system will do most of the work for you.

Riot will have less complaints from gamers and community!

Riot can not be held responsible for the systems actions; meaning can't be sued for how my idea can fix and help your costumers.

More subscribers, gamers, returning old players and happy people/players in both Riot and the Riot gamer community.

It would cost Riot Games very little to integrate my idea into the current system.

My Idea consist of using the current rank system and the end reports that are submitted by players against other players for their actions= Trolls, AFK, and Toxic players!

How my idea works for all gamers and Riot! It starts by using a color code flag system that is integrated into the current system. Each player will have a colored flag placed near their names in the client, current rank system and during Ques. Each flag will be color coded to represent each players actions in League of Legends and can effect them in a way that can prevent them from being able to Troll, AFK, connection issues, and being Toxic. Using the Rank system and my idea together will make the world of League fun again! At the start of each "Ranked game" during the selection screen a small flag with color codes will be added. If a individual has a red flag or yellow flag the members in the group will be given a auto warning of the individuals past actions to the other players! At that point Auto prompt will ask all green flagged players "do you wish to replace the following players; yes or no?" If the players pick yes they will get a replacement player that is ranked 2 ranks lower then them as a penalty however it will guarantee that the player is Green Flagged. For instance. If you are ranked Gold 3 and you choose to replace the individual the system will locate a player that has joined a "Hot streak que/ top 3 in their current rank" the player invited will be in the top 3 of their current rank or has a hot streak but that player will be silver 1.

"SEARIOUSLY WOULD YOU PREFER A RED OR YELLOW FLAGGED PLAYER OR A PLAYER THAT IS IN THE TOP OF THEIR TIER WITH A HOT STREAK? We all know the answer to that lol! At the end of each game if a individual is reported AFK or Troll after three reports have been submitted the system will auto Identify the individuals and label them black, red, yellow, purple, blue, and green flags.

"Unique Que explained " Individuals that are at the top of their rank and/or has a 4win hot streak Can choose to "unique Que" The que will be done separately from standard ques for all games. It will be a stand alone system that will give the person joining a longer que. Which they will have to wait to see if someone is voted to be removed from the ranked game or normal and draft games.
Flag Colors and what they mean to the gamers and Riot and how it works!

Green flag= None toxic players that have good standings and have not been reported Troll, AFK, Toxic or Connection Issues. These individuals are often honored at the end of the game and don't have many or any reports.

Blue flag= means they have been reported for disconnect and connection issues and will be giving 3 warnings that can place them in the red flag category! Yet they are still viable players and aren't toxic!

Purple Flag= a individual that reports false reports on players and abuse the rank/report system. After 2 warning the system will automatically red flag the individual. This happens when a individual that was reported submits a ticket to support that they feel they was falsely reported! The game will send the player that was reported a warning but also give them the option to prove the report was false. If the individual that reported the offence proves to have falsely reported players that individual will be moved to red or black flag status. "Or riot could let the individual that was reported review the video and vote if the person report was warranted! If 3 out of 5 or 7 out of 10 vote that the report was false then the individual will loose the warning or be placed back into green status. The person that reported the false report will receive a warning. If its their 2nd then the will receive a final warning. 3rd warning will place the in the red flag status.

Yellow flag= Are players that harass, verbally abusive, make sexual comments, racist comments and abuse other members in the group for mistakes or just because they want to bully people! Once you are yellow flagged,during the select screen the other members can click on the yellow flag and request for the other members to vote you to be replaced with a new "unique que player". Although these players are good at the game doesn't mean they should be enabled to continue to harass people. After this individual has gotten 3 reports the player is red flagged!

Red flag= Players that have been reported several times in blue, purple, or yellow flag systems. Which these individuals must now work real hard to get out of their new statues by not being reported and get honored for game play. Also they will not be allowed to play in any ranked games until they have played 5, 10, or 20 games in normal games, draft, twisted tree line or Arham. 1st offence players must play 5 consecutive games. 2nd offence= 10 games played. The games must be played consecutively with out getting any reports before the honor applies to them getting back into the status prior to landing in red status. 3rd offence is final warning and must play 20 games with out reports! After 3rd warning the individual is black flagged!

Black Flag= A player that has excited beyond the level of troll will be rewarded Black Flag. The reward for being a super troll is playing 50+ that are private game based, 5team vs A.I. After they complete the games they will be giving the option to request their account to be red flagged and earn their way back to green flag status by proving they have changed their ways.

Red and Black flag= You can still enjoy your account but be permanently stuck playing in practice mode or individual against A.I or are invited to play in private games. If the Riot system has Red flagged you 5 times or more your account is placed in this status and can be only taken out If Riot deems it as such. The individual will have to contact riot after 2 months to request to remove the flags. Which if they do so you will be placed right back into the red flag status and will have to prove their value.

49 Comments

ModUlanopoDec 30, 201711 votes

That sounds highly abusable.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Read the purple flag. The system would eventually flush out all people that would abuse people even for false reports.

NegativityDec 30, 20171 votes

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Read the purple flag. The system would eventually flush out all people that would abuse people even for false reports.

I wish it were that simple I've worked on player behavior systems that are still on place today on a few steam games and mainly dota2 from my experience it was a good idea for sure but reality did not yield such results when steam tried this

NegativityDec 30, 20176 votes

Riot has one of the most fair systems in the online gaming world, while it's far from perfect systems such as yours is highly abused by the players and never used correctly, you cannot implement things that give players too much control or they will abuse it sadly

As someone who did worked on dota2 and leaverbustr systems for steam I'm fully aware of the intent how ever its far more complex and crazy behind the scenes of stuff like this. Many games have failed to use this tactic, and data would likely show that riots current system is the most effective across the boradest segment.

Assuming I don't work for riot games or know any of their code

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Read the purple flag. The system would eventually flush out all people that would abuse people even for false reports.

Umbral RegentDec 30, 20173 votes

The game will send the player that was reported a warning but also give them the option to prove the report was false.

...How? How can you prove the report was false when what caused whoever to report already happened?

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

If you know that you have not committed any offence to pull you out of green status, after you have been reported you will receive a warning in client the tells you that you have been reported. "However you will not be able to know who reported you only Riot will have that information" Then you can challenge the report to be reviewed by Riot staff and you can choose to save the game as evidence and the player or players that false reported you will in turn be given a warning but will remain in green status until someone else has challenged them for falsely accusing another individual. After they have falsely reported a person 2 times they are purple flagged. On their 3rd offence they become red flagged and will inevitable be flushed from the game or change their ways. The person that challenges the false report can save the video of the current game played and submit it to be reviewed by Riot staff or better yet when the individual challenges it the video will be sent and stored for 5 days where other players can watch the video and see if the found any faults in the accusations! The option is already available to save your game is already waiting for you to download after each game as it stands= your evidence! Inevitable people will change their ways for false reports or be flushed from the system based on their own actions!

Umbral RegentDec 30, 20174 votes

Well, first off, that's exceedingly optimistic, considering that there are plenty of folks who, even after getting banned, don't get the message and just start up a new account.

Second, that's...Not feasible. At all. Human review has too much room for error, and it'd require a dedicated team of reviewers - possibly several teams, considering how many reports go out in a given day.

On top of that, the whole idea of having several different flags seems a little to complicated and unnecessary compared to the current system.

Also, this is just a small pet-peeve of mine, but it may help you to space out your paragraphs a bit. I'd say to break them up around every 3-4 lines, just to make it a bit more easy to read.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Yes but Riot can use their current system and integrate my ideas. Being optimistic is a good thing. Adding Flags isn't hard at all if not flags than a box or border near or around your name would be just as good. Human error is common yet isn't tolerated in the real world! Game or not my system would eventually create a semi- utopian atmosphere. Riot has the option to ban based on a individuals IP address.

Umbral RegentDec 30, 20171 votes

Everything else aside (since I've already mostly stated my views), I wanna point this out:

Riot has the option to ban based on a individuals IP address.

No, they don't. I can't remember who said it or where, but someone said they can't do IP banning because there are ways players can sidestep it, and overall, IP banning could accidentally cause collateral damage (such as game cafes or other public hotspots). So, IP banning isn't really a valid avenue for dealing with the issue.

OniZetsu666Dec 30, 20171 votes

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Everything else aside (since I've already mostly stated my views), I wanna point this out:

No, they don't. I can't remember who said it or where, but someone said they can't do IP banning because there are ways players can sidestep it, and overall, IP banning could accidentally cause collateral damage (such as game cafes or other public hotspots). So, IP banning isn't really a valid avenue for dealing with the issue.

They did it to Tyler1.

ModUlanopoDec 30, 20174 votes

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They did it to Tyler1.

That's not what they did (and are still doing) to Tyler1.

They may monitor IP addresses he's known to use, but the majority of his accounts are simply reported as such.

Umbral RegentDec 30, 20171 votes

That was an ID ban, not an IP ban. They weren't banning accounts sharing his IP, they were banning accounts that were identified as being played by him.

However, I could be entirely wrong, but I'm mostly going off of what I've read from Moderators/Rioters, but if I'm misattributing anything, I should hope they come in and correct me.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

I have opened tickets and talked with Riot about Tracking a IP address to ban based off peoples actions in the past. The individual working for Riot that responded to me that Riot is able to do so. Riot can also choose to force enable the players Clients and request that the primary IP address to be listed even if the individual is using a VPN or router.

OxyrottenDec 30, 20171 votes

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to force enable the players Clients and request that the primary IP address to be listed even if the individual is using a VPN or router.

Not arguing with you, that's totally within the realm of possibility. And pretty sneaky if I do say so myself.

I just want to point out that "force enable" means nothing. What they would do is have the client beacon to them bypassing routing tables. Also "even if the individual is using a ...router" is kind of silly, everyone uses a router. You probably mean VPN or proxy.

Another side note: There are still ways to defeat the beaconing, as well as alternative methods to spoof your IP if VPN/proxy doesn't work.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

A good way to resolve it with out being sneaky would be to apply it into their agreement when first downloading the game. Make it to where the players are aware that their main IP is released. If individuals would seek to hide their IP make it a ban-able offence. I understand that everyone use's a Router however some people add additional routers for extra protection.

OxyrottenDec 30, 20171 votes

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A good way to resolve it with out being sneaky would be to apply it into their agreement when first downloading the game. Make it to where the players are aware that their main IP is released. If individuals would seek to hide their IP make it a ban-able offence. I understand that everyone use's a Router however some people add additional routers for extra protection.

Additional routers wouldn't do any good. I'm not trying to be argumentatitve or critical, just informative. And you couldn't make IP spoofing a bannable offense, there are many legit uses that would change your IP and it would be kind of difficult to track.

IOBAGG SKTDec 30, 20172 votes

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ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Funny lol.

PresBushDid711Dec 30, 20171 votes

I'm not sure how black flag is different from a perma ban. If someone gets black flagged they will just make a new account if they want to continue playing.

Also, not sure why theres a blue flag. Blue flag says they aren't toxic just have connections issues. However, you don't list blue flagged people as people we can vote to kick. Likewise, three afks and you are black flagged? Jesus man, there are people with years old accounts. I assume your system has a way of removing strikes after a certain period of time.

I also tend to think this system screams for abuse. For example, if I run into a yellow flag person that I just don't like, or dont like how they play, I could easily bait them into a reportable offense. The flags would just be a huge bullseye.

Note: I gave you an upvote. While, I don't necessarily agree with your premise, it is obvious something you thought about and is laid out well. I don't think you deserve downvotes, seems adults should be able to talk through a hypothetical system and find its strengths and weaknesses.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Its mainly built on a three strike system. I understand at the start it would be abused. However if you are labeled in purple and have been proven to report players with false intent then it will eventually catch up. My system would surely resolve the issue over a 6 month time.

PresBushDid711Dec 30, 20171 votes

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Its mainly built on a three strike system. I understand at the start it would be abused. However if you are labeled in purple and have been proven to report players then it will eventually catch up. My system would surely resolve the issue over a 6 month time.

Aye, but say it wasn't a false report. For real life example, there is a player in my elo that I have had on my team at least three times. Each time he has basically afk farmed, not helped in team fights then will blame his team for loss and claim he won lane.

Now, say next time I run into him he has a yellow flag. I will readily admit that I would do everything I could to get him to tilt so I could get a valid report. Hell I've tried everything in the current system to get him banned and so far it hasn't worked. With your system I would have him banned by now.

Edit: I know your response is going to be good because he should be banned. I agree with that, but only because I can't stand him. Honestly he just picks horrible champ match ups when I have played with him. It's quite possible in other games he does fine. My point is that I want him gone, but that's just my opinion. Whereas, in your system, with enough luck, I could single handedly send him to AI bots permanently.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

If he is Yellow flagged then you or the other green flagged players can choose to vote him to be removed/replaced, which at that point he is tossed back into the pool of ques. But seeing how he is not red flagged a individual that is green flagged can scroll over his flag to "vote him off" all this done discreetly. Eventually the individual will stop being toxic and will earn his way back by being honored at the end of games.

PresBushDid711Dec 30, 20171 votes

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If he is Yellow flagged then you or the other green flagged players can choose to vote him to be removed, which at that point he is tossed back into the pool of ques. But seeing how he is not red flagged a individual that is green flagged can scroll over his flag to "vote him off" all this done discreetly. Eventually the individual will stop being toxic and will earn his way back by being honored at the end of games.

That is possible, or I could vote to keep him so I can work him over in game and get him banned.

Or, maybe I'm nice and let him keep it by voting him off, thus not bait banning him. I assume he goes into que again, and rolls the dice that the next que doesn't kick him. It would be a bit hard to get out of yellow, and VERY hard to get out of red, if no one will play with you. I guess a work around would be to find someone green flagged to duo with so you can't be kicked, but that would be a system work around.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Well your actions would be your own undoing ! It would not be hard to get out of yellow if you play several games of being honored with out any bad reports. Quing with friends might help however it won't stop you from being reported if you or the individual continue your actions. One you will learn your lesson and stop being toxic or two deal with the punishment.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

You could vote to keep them but it doesn't mean the other players will.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

No he doesn't have to be banned if there is nothing in chat or in game that wouldn't place them in those color codes then they would have no issues. By the individual not being Toxic, AFK, or troll and plays well the honor he receives at the end of each game can earn him back to green status. So no abuse no reports! and if you are falsely reported the individual that reported you will gain a strike and be given a warning until they have hit the 3rd offence which gets them red flagged.

PresBushDid711Dec 30, 20171 votes

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No he doesn't have to be banned if there is nothing in chat or in game that wouldn't place them in those color codes then they would have no issues. By the individual not being Toxic, AFK, or troll and plays well the honor he receives at the end of each game can earn him back to green status. So no abuse no reports! and if you are falsely reported the individual that reported you will gain a strike and be given a warning until they have hit the 3rd offence which gets them red flagged.

You don't seem to understand how bait banning works. I'm going to spend the game saying GJ everytime you die, nice ult everytime you miss one. I'm going to ping your lane like I'm helping to secure a kill, then back out at the last second. I'm going to make fun of your cs score, your lack of lane control, etc... I'm going to do that for 25 to 45 minutes and wait for you to snap.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Oh believe me I do! For your actions you could be reported and deemed to land yourself in the yellow flag status based on trolling, harassment or anything that would place you in that status.

Lintu PuckDec 30, 20171 votes

are you really so desperate for attention that you REALLY had to post this 3 times in less then 30 minutes?

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

My apologies!

PresBushDid711Dec 30, 20171 votes

Fyi: I would probably be yellow flagged, i've had two (2) 10 game chat restrictions and currently at honor level zero (0).

PresBushDid711Dec 30, 20171 votes

Side note #2: I'm not sure the honor system is the best way to gauge behavior per se. For example, last night I had a really good game, best on the team by far and was in a great mood, calling and get objectives etc (Mostly bc as a support main I rarely get to carry). Fast forward to end screen and I got one honor. I made the comment "wow only one honor" and top lane told me as a support I'm not supposed to get kills and carry, which is why he didn't honor me. He then told me to learn to support and left.....

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

The upside to that is you won! and you got one good report! People are entitled to their opinion! Lots of people honor players today with the new system. Unless you prove not to be worthy of honor then why worry!? You would still be in green status! "unless you have been a toxic or other have committed other offences. Only the individual can choose to change their ways.

OniZetsu666Dec 30, 20171 votes

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Side note #2: I'm not sure the honor system is the best way to gauge behavior per se. For example, last night I had a really good game, best on the team by far and was in a great mood, calling and get objectives etc (Mostly bc as a support main I rarely get to carry). Fast forward to end screen and I got one honor. I made the comment "wow only one honor" and top lane told me as a support I'm not supposed to get kills and carry, which is why he didn't honor me. He then told me to learn to support and left.....

lol you were doing fine as a support. In the beginning of match you should be getting some kills to get gold being as you arent farming. ADC's are meant to scale over time so you need the gold to carry them early game when they are weak and it helps everyone all game long if you roam as a support (especially late game if you build right) also with some supports (looking at you sona) its easy to kill steal. So whoever says that obviously is misinformed and probably doesn't play support well. and I know someone is gonna look at my match history and see some losses but you will see that 90% of the time my bot lane and I have the best k/d/a out of our team and the enemy team just got fed by mid/top and possibly jungle. Just keep going. Supports generally get little glory but we all know that we carry our teams asses most of the time.

OniZetsu666Dec 30, 20171 votes

I will say this.. there is room for abuse as others have stated and I am not gonna beat that into the ground being as there isn't any way I can add to the discussion any further in that area HOWEVER I do like the idea of the "black flag players" I would like to see this done to the perma banned players instead so that they can play the game and not be harmful to anyone.

DolynaDec 30, 20171 votes

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Purple Flag= a individual that reports false reports on players and abuse the rank/report system. After 2 warning the system will automatically red flag the individual. This happens when a individual that was reported submits too support that they feel they was falsely reported! The game will send the player that was reported a warning but also give them the option to prove the report was false. If the individual that reported the offence proves to have falsely reported players that individual will be moved to red or black flag status.

You need to think about this one a lot more. It's far more complicated than you think. Proving a report false would be difficult, and would require extensive human review, which would not be practical. And without the purple flag, the whole system breaks down through abuse.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Not hard to prove it at all. At the end f each game. At the End of each game a person can save the whole game as a download and be saved for later use or evidence. The person being reported could use the video and then can be submitted to riot to view or can the individual can have the video dropped in a bin to be reviewed by other gamers that can vote against the false claim.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

BettnachlegerDec 30, 20171 votes

Man, this shit is so fucking hard to read. Who the fuck is the one who decides the colors?

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

The Riot A.I system. It will be computer generated based on a persons actions in game and being reported. Similar to what Google, Verizon, and Facebook does. Their systems store your info and then a biography is built on you which is then shared with the N.S.A. But instead Riot can use their system to calculate individuals personality and the actions in game and in turn the system will hand out justice where it is needs too on its own.

DeathbypieDec 30, 20171 votes

Lol

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

Glad you found it amusing. [slayer-jinx-wink]

OxyrottenDec 30, 20171 votes

Just put banned people in their own division. See how long they last when they are on the receiving end every single game.

PS to OP: Riot doesn't read the boards.

Lintu PuckDec 30, 20171 votes

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PS to OP: Riot doesn't read the boards.

that is wrong, Riot does read the boards. Maybe not every single thing, but they do read the boards.

OxyrottenDec 30, 20171 votes

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that is wrong, Riot does read the boards. Maybe not every single thing, but they do read the boards.

You are correct I apologize, riot reads the boards to moderate. I didn't think it was necessary to clarify but I guess I should re-word that.

Riot doesn't give a shit about your opinions or ideas.

ŽeroGravityDec 30, 20171 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]