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Will Permanent Suspensions EVER Be Lifted In The Future?

xRohue··2 votes·5,374 views

Now before you white knights start coming in here and typing angrily at your key boards saying "WELL IF YOU GOT REPORTED THERE IS NOOOOO WAY YOU CAN EVER BE UN-BANNED YOU TOXIC DISGUST" just here me out. I just have a question for 'Riot Games', that question is will PERMANENTLY BANNED accounts ever get the chance to be Un-banned in the future, at all. Will there be a time in the future at all, I don't know when but in the future for perma banned accounts to redeem there selves and get their accounts back?

I was banned and I am a toxic asshole but after this ban I see that and I want to become a better person and really want to change. So I was wondering if this could ever happen say like a year down the line even two?

I spent a lot of time on that account, (about 2 years) and I would wait forever long and change my attitude completely to get it back however long it will take me and really redeem myself as a human being

Thanks for your time

-Your everyday toxic asshole xRohue :D Rengar

53 Comments

AraMoOse12 votes

Responding to title only :

Please refer to the dictionary for the definition of "permanent"

xRohue2 votes

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Responding to title only :

Please refer to the dictionary for the definition of "permanent"

please just read the rest of it before responding .-. "Mr. whiteknight xd

AraMoOse12 votes

Does something in it alter the definition of Permanent?

SavageConcordia3 votes

Seeing as you did not look up the definition, allow me to help.
Permanent: lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely.
Hope this clears up how long your ban will last.

Rigamorte1 votes

now, look up the definition of indefinite.

EvilDustMan10 votes

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xRohue1 votes

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http://turbobocce.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fringe-S3x12-Outlook-not-so-good.jpg

lmao

Angry Monster4 votes

Will Permanent Suspensions EVER Be Lifted In The Future

no

if you want to play again make a new account. The loss of chars and skins is the punishment, you are still allowed to make a new account and play

xRohue1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-19T01:40:54.100+0000)

no

if you want to play again make a new account. The loss of chars and skins is the punishment, you are still allowed to make a new account and play

I know that you people can have your piece of mind but this is purely a question for 'Riot' please be more open minded it could happen just we don't know when I know as of now it is Permanent, I'm just asking if it "could" happen

Angry Monster5 votes

It will never happen. Cause the secound riot does it they lose trust with the good standing members of the community.

In my opinion Riot would lost at least 10 % of paying members would quit and and another 5% would stop buying RP and eventually quit.

What you fail to understand is that your suffering of the loss of an account is the payment for the players who suffered under you. Also if riot decides to give back toxic accounts they then have the problem of people misbehaving and then playing the system to unlock an account with good behavior.

I'm just asking if it "could" happen

and the answer is no it will never happen.

You have a reading comprehension problem on top of your toxicity problem.

Magical Player4 votes

Riot has offered programs in the past to unban accounts(they failed Im told) Riot can unban accounts that were banned at error(payment issues,etc) Riot has unbanned high ranked lcs players before Riot bans, are more a form of long term suspension. Is it possible to reform and submit valid proof of doing so to get an account back, Sure How often it occurs is slim to know. Best of luck in your reforming ways

xRohue1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-02-19T01:41:40.706+0000)

Riot has offered programs in the past to unban accounts(they failed Im told) Riot can unban accounts that were banned at error(payment issues,etc) Riot has unbanned high ranked lcs players before Riot bans, are more a form of long term suspension. Is it possible to reform and submit valid proof of doing so to get an account back, Sure How often it occurs is slim to know. Best of luck in your reforming ways

Thanks for your response :D have a good night.

ExHentai5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-02-19T01:41:40.706+0000)

Riot has unbanned high ranked lcs players before

Those were bans on pro play. Accounts remained banned.

AeroWaffle7 votes

I don't recall Riot ever giving accounts back to LCS players. They removed permanent player suspensions, but that's different. The accounts remain banned.

xRohue2 votes

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I don't recall Riot ever giving accounts back to LCS players. They removed permanent player suspensions, but that's different. The accounts remain banned.

I am aware that some accounts have been un-banned because their toxicity was minor but still "toxic" who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

DrCyanide2 votes

Accounts have been unbanned from toxicity in only two situations:

  1. The punishment was in error (player insulting themselves, 0-to-permaban without a no-tolerance offense)
  2. No tolerance offence, causing 0-to-permaban, but no reports from your team, all the reports from people on your friends list, and them revoking their reports on you afterwards.

I was banned and I am a toxic asshole but after this ban I see that and I want to become a better person and really want to change.

The goal was to want to change at your first chat restriction.

xFuriosity1 votes

tfw you dont get a chat restriction and a 14 day ban and a perm ban is your first offense lul

Magical Player2 votes

{quoted}

I don't recall Riot ever giving accounts back to LCS players. They removed permanent player suspensions, but that's different. The accounts remain banned.

You are correct, but unbanning is still unbanning :D http://2015.na.lolesports.com/articles/2015-mid-year-long-term-suspension-reviews

Angry Monster1 votes

by that logic being unabnned in overwatch applies to being unbanned to league or steam VAC...

so no

Magical Player1 votes

If blizzard bans you're account you are banned from blizzard services If league bans your account you are banned from riot services If wow bans your account you can still play OW I'm confused where this tangent came from.....

If riot unbans players from their game they're allowing them back into the system I never stated that unbanned players received an unban across their account's on other products

Just to be clear

Angry Monster2 votes

you made a logic statement and i proved it wrong. Unbanning on one thing does not equal all forms of unbanning and does not translate as a reason for another.

You were trying to say it works for x why not y. i gave examples why that statement fails.

Magical Player1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=000200020001000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-19T09:03:09.588+0000)

you made a logic statement and i proved it wrong. Unbanning on one thing does not equal all forms of unbanning and does not translate as a reason for another.

You were trying to say it works for x why not y. i gave examples why that statement fails.

No my statement was League has Unbanned Players if league can unban players they can unban players accounts as well You're trying to say my statement was making that league unbans a players, now that player is unbanned across all banned accounts for different companies. I clearly never stated that. Please do not try to say I did

70640285DEL12 votes

Technicalities. The point is, account bans should be reversible.

AeroWaffle3 votes

That's a pretty big technicality.

Normal users are not going to ever get hit by a ban where Riot bans you on sight.

And my point is; No, unless a mistake was made.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Riot has unbanned high ranked lcs players before

AFAIK, they have never unbanned permanently banned accounts for LCS players.

They have revoked bans on the player competing, but they never got their old accounts back.

Magical Player1 votes

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AFAIK, they have never unbanned permanently banned accounts for LCS players.

They have revoked bans on the player competing, but they never got their old accounts back.

AFAIK??? what does it even mean Also, My statement said "players" not accounts Just to be clear

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Common acronym.

As Far As I Know

XxMLG420NoScopeX1 votes

OP's statement said "accounts" not players Just to be clear

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=000200020001,timestamp=2017-02-19T01:56:36.828+0000)

You are correct, but unbanning is still unbanning :D http://2015.na.lolesports.com/articles/2015-mid-year-long-term-suspension-reviews

Unbanning the player is not the same as unbanning the account.

Hallbuster1 votes

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OP's statement said "accounts" not players Just to be clear

Unbanning the player is not the same as unbanning the account.

Excpet when you're a LCS player, you make enough money to buy a fully leveled account in no time so it doesn't really matter.

Zezockary2 votes

Purchased accounts often get banned because it is easy to detect the playstyle difference between whoever made the account and a pro player.

They usually rank them up with exp boosts, you can do it in a very short amount of time.

Hallbuster1 votes

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Purchased accounts often get banned because it is easy to detect the playstyle difference between whoever made the account and a pro player.

They usually rank them up with exp boosts, you can do it in a very short amount of time.

Tell that to Tyler1, he made 9 accounts that were stable until he started flaming again.

Zezockary1 votes

I don't know much about Tyler1, did he buy other people's accounts?

I know a few people with smurfs they made in a few days.

ModPrandine1 votes

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I don't know much about Tyler1, did he buy other people's accounts?

I know a few people with smurfs they made in a few days.

Yes, one of the reasons as to why he received that kind of ban was because he bought and sold accounts.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo4 votes

i mean i might be wrong but isnt the definition of permanent

per·ma·nent ˈpərmənənt/Submit adjective 1. lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely. "a permanent ban on the dumping of radioactive waste at sea" synonyms: lasting, enduring, indefinite, continuing, perpetual, everlasting, eternal, abiding, constant, irreparable, irreversible, lifelong, indissoluble, indelible, standing, perennial, unending, endless, never-ending, immutable, undying, imperishable, indestructible, ineradicable, ineliminable;

so im gonna go out on a limb and go with no

sorry

xRohue2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-02-19T02:00:36.790+0000)

i mean i might be wrong but isnt the definition of permanent

per·ma·nent ˈpərmənənt/Submit adjective 1. lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely. "a permanent ban on the dumping of radioactive waste at sea" synonyms: lasting, enduring, indefinite, continuing, perpetual, everlasting, eternal, abiding, constant, irreparable, irreversible, lifelong, indissoluble, indelible, standing, perennial, unending, endless, never-ending, immutable, undying, imperishable, indestructible, ineradicable, ineliminable;

so im gonna go out on a limb and go with no

sorry

Jensen got a "permanent" ban from competitive, I know that his account(s) are still banned, but still didn't end up permanent.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

yea but he makes $ for league...

and you are a nobody

best chance is jsut have a new account

xRohue1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Axs5IeGP,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-02-19T02:06:50.032+0000)

yea but he makes $ for league...

and you are a nobody

best chance is jsut have a new account

What happend to "riot treats everyone equally" bull shut if you ask me

CooL Ice Tea1 votes

Are you permabanned from playing league like jensen was? No?

Did they perma ban your account like they did to jensens? Are they both still banned? Yes?

Where is the difference?

70640285DEL11 votes

Doesn't have to be that way.

Sukishoo3 votes

They are called Permanent for a very good reason [slayer-jinx-wink]

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Your "white knights" argument doesn't even matter at all. You just refused to acknowledge on what the word "PERMANENT" even means.

Let me spell it out for you:

Permanent:

lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely.

xRohue1 votes

{quoted}

Your "white knights" argument doesn't even matter at all. You just refused to acknowledge on what the word "PERMANENT" even means.

Let me spell it out for you:

How many of you do I need to tell, your definition of permanent is forever yet riot has unbanned "permanently banned" accounts so your definition on permanent means literally nothing... carry on mr white knight

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

They were unbanned due to an error on their side, it's been said thousands of times.

As long as there's toxicity in your chat logs, the permaban stays.

deathgod52 votes

No, they don't seem to unban people unless there is a mistake discovered on their side. I am sorry, but I wouldn't keep your hopes up.

AeroWaffle2 votes

The punishment for the poor behavior is a permanent ban on the account. Changing your behavior now, while admirable, doesn't change the behavior that triggered the ban.

Hallbuster2 votes

We could start a petition to remove permabans if you want to start a movement (No I haven't been banned for toxicity before).

Hallbuster2 votes

Flaming happens in chat, so instead of a permanent ban, why not opt for a permanent mute? And don't give me the "communication is important" nonsense. You can still send pings and don't really have time to do anything else if you're focused.

Timethief492 votes

Well they aren't really permanent, Just for like 800years. You said you would wait long, now you know how long.

deoje2991 votes

Permanent: "existing perpetually; everlasting, especially without significant change." or "intended to exist or function for a long, indefinite period without regard to unforeseeable conditions"

Glu10Sensitivity1 votes

short answer: no

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