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Chat Ban - Most Toxic Players in LoL

Challenger Banks··18 votes·2,355 views

There's an abundance of one particular type of player. I think these are the most toxic players because they cause others around them to become toxic.

It's the type of player that if you die, or do something that they dont like, they immediately go into the /all chat and type something like "this Morgana..." or "my team is garbage! I cant carry these losers." It's like, calm down. You're Zed and your opponent is Teemo. You got lucky with the matchup and suddenly you think you belong in diamond.

I would also like to make it clear right now:

  • I never flame anyone for a mistake.
  • I never get upset if my team is losing.
  • I never others because the responsibility is on me just as much.

Maybe in my head but never in the game.

My problem is that I just can't help myself when a(usually bad) player just starts flaming me out of nowhere. It makes me just not want to play any more and I don't even care if we win.

I'll give you a scenario:

I'm Blitz support with adc Miss Fortune and it's early laning phase. Ive landed about 5 hooks which MF failed to take advantage of. But hey, it could be my fault. Maybe I'm not hooking at the right place or at the right time.

Some time goes by and 2 more hooks has given MF 2 kills and we are ahead.

Then the enemy JG, ganks MF twice in a row even though there was a ward...and then it starts.

Miss Fortune: /all this Blitz is crap

So yes, I do say things back. I go out of my way not to be a toxic person and I never start any fight or argument, but I can't help it when someone else keeps chatting crap about me.

And now I have a chat ban. In the logs that they show, Riot completely ignores what what happening to me and went straight to my retaliation. Which by the way contained no profanities or anything offensive other than about the way MF plays.

The MF even added me to friends afterwards to laugh about it to me, which is also pretty sad and pathetic.

Okay, so fine. Maybe I deserve a chat restriction. It's not like didn't do what they said I did.

But the point that I'm reiterating is that anyone can be a toxic player if pushed too far. But Riot should be targeting those players that cause the rest to become "toxic" as opposed to targeting everyone.

If you're being cordial and some jerk comes and punches you in the face, then you punch him back and a fight breaks out, should the cops really arrest and charge both of you? Even worse, should they just arrest and charge you?

That's all I'm saying. These players are the ones that bring the whole LOL community down.

Thanks for reading, gg

Edit: I'm not actually banned from Chat, just restricted for 10 games. My point was meant to be less about me being penalised and more about bringing attention to the fact that many "toxic" players are not trouble makers but are civil players who have the built in disposition to retaliate to a truly toxic player.

Think about relatively new players to LoL. They don't immediately know about all the things they should do when someone is being toxic towards them. It pushes people away fromt the game. My gf never says anything in chat but she quit playing because she wasn't having fun with people being jerks when she was learning. She didn't know about muting, nor would she want to continue playing with jerks even after muting them.

My other friend is an architect with very little time to play. He plays very casually and doesnt know all the politics of the community. When someone just starts flaming him out of nowhere, he just disconnects and goes back to work, and that freaking sucks and it's annoying. He doesn't play enough or afk enough to ever get penalised. I've told him about this and he said he doesn't care because he doesn't have 40 mins to waste, and this sucks because I hate AFKers but at the same time I understand. It's another example of otherwise decent people being made to be toxic.

People just say press the mute button and I get it. Yes, I should just press mute. But it can be difficult for many people to get berrated by someone else in the chat(especially a bad player taking it out on you) without trying to defend themeselves. I don't think telling millions of players to just mute others is a good long term solution. There should be like a category for people who start a game down the path of flaming and usually causing the team to lose as a result.

35 Comments

rtbf2216514123 votes

This just happened to me. Apparently we should allow someone to punch us in the face and let it happen until we die. Meanwhile, I'll find a game with more reasonable measurements of banning criteria. I'm not chat banned, but I am temporarily put on chat restrictions.

Apparently telling someone to kill themselves is less of an issue than telling someone to stop doing something.

I Go Pew Pew Pew2 votes

I personally haven't seen too many people that act like this after one death or something. I personally see a lot more "flame" when top lane is like 0/7/0 by 6 mins and then decides to dive the enemy yet again. Players like that. Players that shouldn't be playing.

Totalwanabe2 votes

maybe you will learn 1 of 2 things, 1- don't retaliate, 2- use mute if it bother you that much

xXI3ADI3OYXx3 votes

so you expect us ot mute everyone who is being toxic but yet it doesnlt help the teamowrk either way, wtf should we be punished for muting them cause they're toxic, cause we end up not seeing what they write then we get reported for not cooperating???

Riot needs to take away the reporting system so some of us can actually progress and not deal with this shit day in day out, been over 14 hrs now since ticket was submitted, im starting to lose faith in this game and i havent played for a month yet...thats how pathetic it is and the image im seeing on their behalf.

Totalwanabe1 votes

you're acting like a crybaby so you're obviously a flamer, you're still upset about something that happen many hours ago and it's your responsibility to mute if you can't ignore the toxic elements. And you pretty much just showed with your last response that you lie quite easily.

"I would also like to make it clear right now:

I never flame anyone for a mistake.
I never get upset if my team is losing.
I never others because the responsibility is on me just as much." just copy pasted to refresh your memory from your own statement.

don't bother replying just get enlightened and engrave that wisdom in your thick skull.

xXI3ADI3OYXx3 votes

i absolutely did not do any of those things first of, and im complaining because it was uncalled for, if your in your every right would you defend your point at all costs? i think you would, thats what im doing, i didnt flame any1 i didnt get upset i try to encourage not to give up and coordinate f it gets rough, i have just as a big responsibility as others should have aswell when performing into the game.

and next time i ask for you opinion you can say to someone who dont care, i dont give a crap about your wisdom i have enough wisdom, probly more than you,

Funny how you were so easy to judge me but yet i make a comment about one thing in particular and yet you think your the target and lash out at me? go crawl in your whole.

Totalwanabe1 votes

i don't defend myself, i ignore them or mute and report when match is over for either negative, harassment or hate speech depending on what was said. But i do warn them that they are on the right track to get themselves banned if they keep going at it.

Amasa Delano1 votes

Also, turn off /all chat. Nothing good comes from /all chat.

PraiseRNGeezus2 votes

i relate with this so much. YOU HAVE TO VIEW THE FULL CHAT LOGS IN THE TRIBUNAL. it is total garbage that your chat is taken completely out of context. getting flamed is incredibly frustrating and hard to not respond to in kind. Im going to argue my side, without the context that it was in I look like the toxic one on my team. Im generally silent besides GJ's or pings until someone starts harassing me.

Damagefox1 votes

Ruin-it likes to treat thier matches like some "Barney and friends" indoctrination lesson. Who cares what -they- did. If you say mean things you might hurt THIER feelings! Who cares that they are going out of thier way to flame you, to light up flame wars. If YOU even say anything back, then you are ruining -thier- experience (completely ignoring that they are trolling thier team or intentionally feeding/sabotating you.

Alot of these people know how to GAME THE SYSTEM. They know how to work it so thier trolling isnt blatenly obvious. So they can say "I am gonna feed the enemy so hard" and then during the match they proceed to feed. But when they get banned they can cry "I wasnt intentionally feeding, you have no proof, I was just having a bad game"

scazzman1 votes

this, and the fact that the ban system looks at the number of games reported as opposed to the severity of the behavior, a guy shouting out racial slurs and telling people to uninstall. but only doing it once every 20 games, is less likely to be banned then the guy who only rages if trolled. and never more than a "shut up" or "fuck off" but does it every other game

Damagefox2 votes

Yep, and the guy shouting those racial slurs, homophobic remarks, telling people to go kill themselves, etc...Well if you DARE say any mean words to him well then you are just being a MEANY-HEAD and Ruining HIS gaming experience! Who cares if he is writing the most vulgar things, the most offensive remarks and going out of his way to PROVOKE you. You actually reacted (especially when he hits a nerve or sensitive spot, like those people who drag dead family members or relatives and use those as insults) and said something MEAN. So according to Ruin-its infantile method. You ruined Thier experience which makes YOU 1000x WORSE than the one telling people to go kill themselves or "i hope you die of cancer aids" or something like that.

As I said, they know how the system works, they know they can work the system so they can troll all they want and mask it to be something else.

Kei1431 votes

Sounds like you are getting triggered easily, I suggest you /mute that person triggering you if you can't control yourself.

[{quoted}](name=Challenger Banks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AYddQPTn,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-26T10:27:07.157+0000)

In the logs that they show, Riot completely ignores what what happening to me and went straight to my retaliation. Which by the way contained no profanities or anything offensive other than about the way MF plays.

The MF even added me to friends afterwards to laugh about it to me, which is also pretty sad and pathetic.

That is indeed how the chat logs work, as Riot wants you to know that you are responsible for your own actions.

This isn't a trial to see who is innocent or guilty, you were already found guilty by the automated system. It is just providing you with the transcript of what got you punished.

Also, I like it when toxics add me and continue to be toxic, It gives me one more report against tem by submitting that screen shot to Riot support.

If you're being cordial and some jerk comes and punches you in the face, then you punch him back and a fight breaks out, should the cops really arrest and charge both of you?

This is pretty much what happens. If you (or they) have accumulated enough validly reported games , you will be punished. They managed to punish you, so you can have some faith they will punish the others as well.

Now if you don't know what is it you are typing that is punishment worthy, you can post your chat logs here and we can dissect it for you.

Challenger Banks1 votes

I did mention that I know why I got banned. I never said that I didn't know why or that I didn't deserve it.

I was pointing out one of the sources of players becoming toxic.

IMO it would be far more effective to remove the few players that cause trouble in the first place rather than to ask all the millions of people playing to have a thicker skin.

Kei1431 votes

they get punished in their time, you get punished in yours.

You aren't that innocent if you managed to accumulate enough validly reported games against you.

Eitherway, if you know what you did wrong then focus on getting better at that so you don't get punished again.

Challenger Banks1 votes

I think you missed the point entirely. Nevermind. Thank you for your reply.

simsinfinity1 votes

Chat restrictions don't happen after one game, unless the violation was really bad. You should post the logs so people can't claim that you are lying about your reaction.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you that passive aggressive chatting is toxic. But if you feed into their toxicity by giving them a reaction, it distracts from them being the problem. Either ignore them, mute them, whatever it takes to not fall to their level, and report them. It will catch up with them, and then the "few players that cause trouble in the first place" will be removed. Problem solved.

I always keep this in mind- you can't beat stupid. If someone is toxic, passive aggressive, etc..., nothing you say will change their mind or actions- literally nothing.

And remember this, because it will help you in life, beyond just this game: sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me. It is not a matter of having thicker skin. Words cannot pierce your skin, no matter how thin or thick it is. They are words from a random internet stranger that has nothing better to do than to try and harass people online.

Challenger Banks1 votes

100% agree

Sometimes the reptilian brain just kicks in with many people when provoked.

Linthe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Challenger Banks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AYddQPTn,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-26T10:27:07.157+0000)

There's an abundance of one particular type of player. I think these are the most toxic players because they cause others around them to become toxic.

It's the type of player that if you die, or do something that they dont like, they immediately go into the /all chat and type something like "this Morgana..." or "my team is garbage! I cant carry these losers!". It's like, calm down.

Insta mute... YW.

xXI3ADI3OYXx2 votes

doesnt matter if u insta mute u still get reported one wau or another, get that through your head, fix the god damnproblem

Linthe1 votes

{quoted}

doesnt matter if u insta mute u still get reported one wau or another, get that through your head, fix the god damnproblem

  1. No, you dont..

  2. Even if you do... so wont.. report != punishment. Yes, you can be reported for anything, everything, nothing, every single game. But false reports ARE thrown out. I have no idea how many times I have been reported. But I DO know how many times I have been punished.

Linthe2 votes

{quoted}

doesnt matter if u insta mute u still get reported one wau or another, get that through your head, fix the god damnproblem

So what... report != punishment. I have no idea how many times I have been reported. Nor do I care..

What I DO know is the number times I have been punished: ZERO.

rtbf2216514121 votes

{quoted}

Insta mute... YW.

Clearly ? mark spamming doesn't exist.

jakesfriend1 votes

I haven't had a game without a toxic player as long as I can remember. This game isn't fun, I'm not sure why I still play.

Shinji lkari1 votes

the worst players in the game of league of legends are the bad players. that means the feeders, ragequiters and afkers. I could care less about what someone types in the chat box but when you start playing badly that's a problem

Cyst1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Challenger Banks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AYddQPTn,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-26T10:27:07.157+0000)

Thanks for reading, gg

Nothing going to change cause this is WHAT RIOT WANTS!... How can that be made any more clear?

Riot hired a kid named Lyte... remember him? not very long ago?

That crazy that thought it was acceptable to perform psychological testing on children on video games? What shocks me is no one sued riot... thankfully they FIRED HIM http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/10/20/riot-games-responds-to-concern-over-league-of-legends-player-surveys/ Funny didn't happen too long after either.. http://www.dailydot.com/esports/riot-lyte-leaves-the-company/

His biggest fan webpage, read all about how wonderful this fresh out of college kid lyte is. http://riotlyte.com/

99.9% of riot is ran by SJW's This is their "social experiment" to create a safe space.

https://twitter.com/notch/status/744241238174367744

https://twitter.com/notch/status/717451202485755906

THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD SOLVE THIS PROBLEM Is if riot was fired and the parent company took over... asian countries don't put up with the sjw nonsense..

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Now peace out... I am going to go laugh at some people who got banned and actually deserved it.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

It is that the people retaliating are a reason that people become toxic. They also massively escalate toxic situations. Sure you have the guy jumping on everyone and has something to say about everything. But without someone to go back and forth with it is just that, a few comments. Instead, you get an argument with at least 2/5ths of your team all putting at least some attention on things that aren't win the game.

All these things that just chip away at everyone's enjoyment of the game. Eventually many crack themselves like you seem to have. Then the 9 other people in your game had a little of their enjoyment chipped away. One of them cracks in the next game. And so on and so on. Retaliating just adds more toxicity and significantly amplifies the source.

Stop poking the bear.

Challenger Banks1 votes

Yeah, I agree completely. Don't poke the bear. But getting rid of the bears is a better long term solution.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

I dont think you are going to find many who argue with that. My point is that there is a bear. In that moment, with the troll in your game it is best to just ignore them and play out the game as best you can and report it. Your description sounds like they were clearly breaking the rules, reporting them at the end is how you get rid of them, not raging at them.

Retaliation not only escalates things but it also distracts from the troll because that is just another thing people have to deal with.

ThatVietGuyuknow1 votes

How about we just stop playing league because this game is obviously horrible, gameplay wise and community wise of what you get in game and not on the boards, between the boards and the game, board has better community than this god awful game

Challenger Banks1 votes

I think League is a great game. I just think Riot are losing loads of profits from people who have quit and people who have been banned from retaliating to rude people.

ThatVietGuyuknow1 votes

Rude people are in a premade and report the one good person who is putting them in their place, premade gets butthurt and manage to get that person chat banned/tilted or tilted -----> chat ban/ 2 week ban

Billybaroo23141 votes

I agree with you. The problem is the community thinks it's funny to be toxic and won't say anything, or they say just mute them. As you said muting takes away from team work and hurts overall. I am with you, I don't want to even help them anymore to a win. I had good coaches in sports that if you were the best player on the planet would bench a person (even if hurt team, and cost us the game) to teach them to respect the game. LOL doesn't do that, and the "big EP's and bullies" behind their keyboards have to retaliate somewhere. I am to point, Done with caring about rank. Doesn't prove anything, as the game goes at moment, you can win your lane, push the game, get fed, but if other lanes won't push, won't work together, or feed, it's a loss. 1 person can not carry the game anymore with the snowballing thats happening. I feel you and wish you the best, overall prob muting is best thing, but hey if you don't want to group with them for being toxic, I don't I can always farm or split push another lane. If my team mates won't stand up for me, I don't care if they take the loss also.

uGCdk5awsE1 votes

I'll give you a scenario: I'm Blitz support with adc Miss Fortune and it's early laning phase. Ive landed about 5 hooks which MF failed to take advantage of. But hey, it could be my fault. Maybe I'm not hooking at the right place or at the right time.

Its doormats like you that get cucked by girls in real life, you need to fucking stand up for yourself, this is cringey.

Challenger Banks1 votes

This is a game, not real life. Admitting that you were wrong in a particular scenario invoving a video game does not equiviquate with being a pushover in real life to the point that you're letting people screw your wife. Get a reality check mate.

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