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Received permanent BAN for no good reason

Sweet Sayonara··10 votes·8,600 views

Hi guys

I just had my account permanently banned for no good reason.

Been playing LOL for roughly two years. I live in Hong Kong and my main account is on the Japanese server (posting here because I can't read Japanese so can't navigate the Japanese forums). I initially started out on the NA server (where I could play with a friend) and later transferred to the Japanese server. On the NA server where I played for roughly 8 months I didn't have any disciplinary issues. However, after transferring to the Japanese server, I got into trouble. I admit that initially I had issues transitioning to the Japanese server. Compared to NA, people on the Japanese server rarely use chat and when they do it seems far less hostile. Although my chat was never really all that bad, I understand how in the Japanese context my previous chat could have been considered hostile. Over time my chat had improved considerably.

Yet 3 days ago my account was permanently banned and for the life of me I can't figure out what I said that could justify a permanent ban. Have a look:

Game 1 FireNovaStar: \wtf FireNovaStar: i was stunned foreever FireNovaStar: nice FireNovaStar: game over?? FireNovaStar: JUNGLE FireNovaStar: we were pushed in the entire game FireNovaStar: not sure why you diddnt gank FireNovaStar: i dont speak japanese. [I said this in response to a teammate typing in Japanese. Just letting him/her know that I couldn't understand] FireNovaStar: runi FireNovaStar: DONT FireNovaStar: open your eyes plz FireNovaStar: wow FireNovaStar: wp FireNovaStar: why fight there??? FireNovaStar: they knew where you were FireNovaStar: better to back off and fight under tower FireNovaStar: sigh FireNovaStar: that gives them baron FireNovaStar: UNDER TURRET FireNovaStar: lol FireNovaStar: LOL FireNovaStar: GO IN FireNovaStar: what are you waiting for?? FireNovaStar: lol

One thought I had was that there is a bias against using English in game and people are reporting me for it. (Just so everyone knows, I would say roughly 2/3 of people on the Japanese server are able to chat with me in English.) Although unlikely, I really can't think of another reason why the language above would justify a permanent ban.

Appreciate your thoughts and any suggestions on actions I can take to get my account unbanned. I wouldn't care, except that I have put in roughly 200 USD into the account.

Should I not use in game chat at all - even when trying to help other players? I feel like that is what Riot and their ban system are telling me...

Thanks for your feedback.

50 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram23 votes

I'm happy to help you understand.

Your ban is not a case of a ban for one egregious game. It is the result of constant, slight, negativity. This is your 6th penalty for the exact same thing. It doesn't help that you are criticising them in another language.

Here are some examples of your 'norm' :

FireNovaStar: open your eyes plz FireNovaStar: what are you waiting for??

FireNovaStar (Warwick): wtf was that swupport??? gg this team FireNovaStar (Warwick): adc - do you know how to auto attack?

FireNovaStar (Vayne): please practice before playing ranked

FireNovaStar (Vayne): newb trash FireNovaStar (Vayne): worthless team FireNovaStar (Vayne): what a terrible team

FireNovaStar (Warwick): fuk FireNovaStar (Warwick): gg FireNovaStar (Warwick): bott FireNovaStar (Warwick): worthless FireNovaStar (Warwick): tank everything bot FireNovaStar (Warwick): and you guys cant hit shit

FireNovaStar (Akali): LOOK AT YOUR MAP YOU TARD FireNovaStar (Akali): this team is so clueless

As you can see, this wasn't the case of one single game. It is the case of being repeatedly warned about your behavior, and not changing it. Thus, each penalty was escalated to the next tier. These are all penalties that would result in a chat restriction on their own.

edoxbox11 votes

Can i know 1 thing ? If i dont say nothing all the game, and at the end i say "gg" i can banned ? Or the "gg" here are in the "log" for the what he say before and after ?

Mig894 votes

youll never be banned if youre only chat is gg. Not for that

edoxbox11 votes

Oky ty ^^

DeathBurst5 votes

You can't be banned for just saying "gg" or saying nothing at all. Remember that you can be banned for what you do, though, even if you say nothing more than "gg".

Eternal Torment4 votes

You can't be punished for Saying gg, however, as it has been confirmed, you can get in trouble for saying ez because it's overmocking use has transcended past competitive banter.

ModPeriscope1 votes

No, you can't be banned for things you don't say. Your account would eventually get back into good standing if you type nothing but gg (at the end of the game where appropriate).

Sweet Sayonara7 votes

Thank you. There are certainly things in these examples that I would agree are objectively negative and warrant a chat ban. I will not make the mistake of making similar comments again. Believe it or not, looking at my comments here, I am quite embarrassed and disappointing in myself. I still don't know if a perma ban was required, but I did need a good knock to my head.

Couple questions:

  1. Did you put this together on your own, going through my games individually? Or does the system pull this together for you?
  2. If the system pulls this together for you, I wonder why it can't be provided as the reason for my Ban? Just seems like it would make a much stronger case for my banishment than the one example I was given. We could avoid much of this back and forth.

Thanks again for taking the time. See you on the Rift.

Aneirin2 votes

Very mature response, all the best :)

Sp33d Zer01 votes

Good luck in your reform.

Abraxus follower3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=A9EHnwuc,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-01-23T16:23:00.837+0000)

I'm happy to help you understand.

Your ban is not a case of a ban for one egregious game. It is the result of constant, slight, negativity. This is your 6th penalty for the exact same thing. It doesn't help that you are criticising them in another language.

Here are some examples of your 'norm' :

FireNovaStar: open your eyes plz FireNovaStar: what are you waiting for??

FireNovaStar (Warwick): wtf was that swupport??? gg this team FireNovaStar (Warwick): adc - do you know how to auto attack?

FireNovaStar (Vayne): please practice before playing ranked

FireNovaStar (Vayne): newb trash FireNovaStar (Vayne): worthless team FireNovaStar (Vayne): what a terrible team

FireNovaStar (Warwick): fuk FireNovaStar (Warwick): gg FireNovaStar (Warwick): bott FireNovaStar (Warwick): worthless FireNovaStar (Warwick): tank everything bot FireNovaStar (Warwick): and you guys cant hit shit

FireNovaStar (Akali): LOOK AT YOUR MAP YOU TARD FireNovaStar (Akali): this team is so clueless

As you can see, this wasn't the case of one single game. It is the case of being repeatedly warned about your behavior, and not changing it. Thus, each penalty was escalated to the next tier. These are all penalties that would result in a chat restriction on their own

TANTRAM WITH THE summoner 11

XerxesGodKing1 votes

hey tantram, how does the system actually work when people flame in another language than english? i am german as an example, but i have a accent of swizerland/austrian, so we type a lot different than in "normal german"... i think the system wouldnt understand a single word. what does it do if i write this to my real life friends ingame?

TrulyBland1 votes

i think the system wouldnt understand a single word

First off: I can tell you from experience that even Germans can have trouble with Austrian written dialect (played with a bunch of Austrians during WC3 times).

Secondly: The system primarily works via player input. Effectively the system doesn't "understand" any language, it just knows which phrases and occasionally words are perceived as negatively impacting other players. As long as the system gets enough input regarding dialect insults (in other words, enough people report such insults) it should work out.

A last note: If I'm not mistaken the systems on different servers work seperately, because of how important culture is as a context to certain insults. So on EUW I have no doubts that Austrian/Swiss insults are going to be identified properly. On other servers, though, probably not.

InexpensiveRun1 votes

buthurt mod.

SoundChaosDebug3 votes

I bet it was the passive aggressive sigh

https://68.media.tumblr.com/9e7263017f6fe339eeadfb85ce73c6bc/tumblr_o85w049JpE1u628fdo1_500.gif

Sweet Sayonara3 votes

And this might be my biggest issue of all (that I didn't mention in my post).

Why are there punishments for how people receive your chat/comments/criticism?

I get it - if I use hate speech to put someone down, I should be punished.

But if I give constructive criticism to someone... Let say I say "Please pay more attention! That guy was right behind you the whole time!" and this person takes it the wrong way, does that really justify a ban?

I don't think so at all. We can't be responsible for how people interpret our comments.

Stand Alone Wolf2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sweet Sayonara,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=A9EHnwuc,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-01-22T10:44:42.848+0000)

And this might be my biggest issue of all (that I didn't mention in my post).

Why are there punishments for how people receive your chat/comments/criticism?

I get it - if I use hate speech to put someone down, I should be punished.

But if I give constructive criticism to someone... Let say I say "Please pay more attention! That guy was right behind you the whole time!" and this person takes it the wrong way, does that really justify a ban?

I don't think so at all. We can't be responsible for how people interpret our comments.

Based off of the terrible ban system, the way it works is:

Was person A offended, and did person a FEEL hurt from the criticism/tip they couldn't handle? has their way of play been challenged? well then report that player. It's not right, but it's what happens.

Chermorg4 votes

Reports don't mean anything if players behaved well. All a report does is trigger a review of the game - reports do not directly result in punishment.

Stand Alone Wolf1 votes

{quoted}

Reports don't mean anything if players behaved well. All a report does is trigger a review of the game - reports do not directly result in punishment.

So you're telling me if chat look like this: Example player: going to blue Example player: They fkng invaded, and left. . _. Example player: Well you should have helped me leash so I can get to lanes better. Example player: I'm lvl3, and everyone else is lvl6. Example player: Bot, don't dive I literally watched Kha go swiggity mode in the fog-of-war Example player: You should have stayed under your tower Example player: maybe next time buy Specific Item instead of buying an AP item when you deal no AP dmg?? Example player: The hell man I'm only telling you how you could improve. Example player: No you died, because you have no vision down there. Example player: So your bot lane enemies just took top. wtf? Example player: guys, eyes on the map, you need to be aware of whats going on Example player: they are in the base, could you guys B, and stop them from- Example player: ggwp.
Example player: This is a team-game, and you refused to work with me when I went to gank. Follow through.

Then Example player gets reported by two people that he attempted to help with criticism. Is what you're telling me that he would be fine? If not, (Only if not) does that mean riot would deem his criticism as "Crit-hits" on his team-mates?

Chermorg3 votes

This chat log is negative - but it’s not necessarily punishable in NA. If this is how they talk every game - they’ll likely get a chat restriction. Furthermore, this chat log may very well be punished in JP servers due to the negativity and passive aggressiveness present therein. That being said, no punishment is issued based on only one game - even if only one game’s log is presented - so this is not near enough information for this hypothetical.

Stand Alone Wolf1 votes

{quoted}

This chat log is negative - but it’s not necessarily punishable in NA. If this is how they talk every game - they’ll likely get a chat restriction. Furthermore, this chat log may very well be punished in JP servers due to the negativity and passive aggressiveness present therein. That being said, no punishment is issued based on only one game - even if only one game’s log is presented - so this is not near enough information for this hypothetical.

When making this hypothetical little chat log, I made sure to keep passive aggressive behavior in mind. If this sounds like a bad chat log, fine, was there a "Lack of" information for said chat log? yes, but in giving this example the only thing I could see as being flagged (And it wasn't used at anyone, just used) was "fkng", and "wtf?"

Both weren't directed at anyone with negativity. the first was merely a "Sentence-enhancer xD" whereas the second was more of a confused moment of: how the hell did bot end up top to take turret with my top lane enemy without bot responding, or alerting.

Then everything else was merely criticism. Also, you may even note that in my example, I seemed to be doing more of the whining which makes me seem even more like a villain, but yet again, it was all in an attempt to help my team-mates Without being negative. If this chat seems negative, then a question of your personal interpretation of criticism comes into play.

I simply let them know:

What would work better (i.e. Gnar want's to try an ap item for his third hit's ap damage instead of using something more viable)

What's going on in my neck of the woods (steals, invades, ect)

and even being aware of the map to be able to warn them of a threat (that they may, or may not heed to)

And even if I throw these things in, this chat had nothing that shamed them for their mistakes unless it's helpful. "You should have stayed under your tower." I'm telling them that it would have been the safer route, and hopefully they will take the advice. I didn't say: "Stop feeding", or "why do you keep feeding in your lane?" Both of those are literally non-helpful statements that would make sense for receiving reports on, but it seems like your personal views on someone's words misunderstands criticism/helpfulness for toxicity, and associates them with toxicity? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit- I also understand it takes a multitude of games to receive severe punishment, but it always starts with one.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Chermorg2 votes

This is where people get caught up - trying to look for “key words”. As i explained, the problem here isn’t the words, but the attitude - you could easily have had such an attitude without the words “fkng” or “wtf”. The system does not look for words except hate speech or “kys” (and similar) - it looks at chat holistically to determine the “tone” and attitude of it.

Stand Alone Wolf1 votes

{quoted}

This is where people get caught up - trying to look for “key words”. As i explained, the problem here isn’t the words, but the attitude - you could easily have had such an attitude without the words “fkng” or “wtf”. The system does not look for words except hate speech or “kys” (and similar) - it looks at chat holistically to determine the “tone” and attitude of it.

alright so even a sentence that displays light humor such as "Bot, don't dive I literally watched Kha go swiggity mode in the fog-of-war" Isn't enough for the system to make a judgement call on how a human beings attitude is, but for another human it clearly shows I'm not worked up over the match. I can't be assertive when pointing something out without being told that because I didn't "sound" a certain way through my chat-logs, that I was given a chat-restriction?

attitude/keywords aside, the way the system works could in-fact use some changes. I am a human being, and just like every player in the community that Isn't toxic, we all communicate differently. for what I have to say to someone to sound toxic when I have no means at all of being toxic just means I can't type at all. If I'm ever in a match with you on my team, and you make some honest mistakes (Because you're human, and it's okay man) then I'll throw in some recommendations. If you report me because you think my attitude is crap when I'm actually in a great mood, and enjoying the match, then obliviously report me.

If you misunderstand my words that would in-fact, be pretty hard to decipher how I'm feeling (Since there are in-fact players who have been positive through-and-through to their team-mates in a match, but threw the nearest object out of rage against them in reality), then I understand, but to leave it up to a system to judge how I feel towards players using positive remarks, or to eliminate any use of "key words" based off my entire chat log from a match, game-play, pings, ect. there seems to be inaccuracy.

Do you know how the system works? I thought only Rioters knew how it worked, but if you do, then cool beans. If not, then (giving an opinion in no way made to be toxic) I feel like you're backing something without having any information, but if you do have proof of how the system works, please inform me. But this attitude thing from the system sounds iffy. This whole thing reminds me of a skit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naleynXS7yo

it's easy to misunderstand someone all match as being "mean," but if they aren't ACTUALLY being mean, then what gives?

Sweet Sayonara2 votes

Love that Key & Peele video. Not only is it hilarious, but I don't think you could have better illustrated the problem with Riot's police software. Good find.

Sweet Sayonara3 votes

** HERE IS THE FEEDBACK FROM RIOT SUPPORT --------------------------------** Komari again. Thank you for your reply and I apologize to confuse you by my words... Let me answer as accurate as possible again to you, so please see my comments in your questions below.

How am I supposed to learn or improve if the only example provided doesn't clearly demonstrate or point to incorrect behavior/words? I agree that we should be respectful to all players at all times. Was I not doing that?

Unfortunately we can't point exactly words or behavior of the players due to the reason that I told you last time. But remember, " Community rule " is the standard that our Instant Feedback System(IFS) constantly updates by the reports from the players in each server, and not open to the public, but it bases on " Summoner's Code ".

Since we are not allowed to disclose our community rule, so please listen as just a personal opinion, you should be little bit more careful in your wording when you gave advice for other players. Some people would catch it kind of as high handed behavior and they'd cower.

Can you please point me to the Japanese Community Rules?

Please keep in mind that the rule and standard in a server have been drew up by the all players who have been playing in this server, not Riot. Players in each servers have different sense of values, and that also could be the reason why there is difference between the " Community rule " in each servers. All players in the server need to follow the community rule in there at any time, but this is absolutely bases on " Summoner's Code " and we have adjusted our rule not to be inappropriate all the time.

You mentioned that "Including when the player was using Ping to stir someone's anger, or player was seems to be missing attitude of cooperativeness, or something that is against our community rule." Are you saying that is part of the reason why my account received a ban?

I'm sorry that it makes you confused... I just wanted to tell you that IFS audit all of behaviors in game, not only the words in the chat. I'm not saying like " You were using Ping improperly and this is why you got banned! ". Again, sorry for the confusion.

Moving my RP to another account

You can create a new account in League, but it is not allowed to move any contents from the account that is permanently suspended. With regards to refunds, we do not provide refunds for accounts which players are warned about in the Terms of use. You can find the full policy at our Terms of Use on the website: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse

What is the process to receive an official review of my ban?

I'm sorry that I can't tell you what behavior exactly caused this suspension, but please note that the factor caused the suspension is not only 1 game. The suspension is as a result of IFS found unsportsmanlike behavior from multiple games you played.

END ------------------------

In all honesty, this is what I have learned:

  1. Don't bother spending real money on RP. Riot can take away my account at any moment for essentially any reason and they don't owe my a explanation in the slightest. It's a waste of money.
  2. Chat is a trap. A couple months back I was playing a game of LOL and this random person's name was "chatting equals ban" (or something like that). I laughed at the time, but only now do I realise how accurate it is. When simply making suggestions on how other players can play to improve team performance gets you permanently banned, why bother with chat?

So now I will simply create another account, never use chat again, and never spend another dollar on RP.

Cheers!

EssenceOfPoo4 votes

how did you transfer your account to JP? I thought JP wasn't included among the list of regions you can transfer to? (also what happened to that feature? can't seem to find it in the client anymore). Did they allow you to transfer your skins when you transferred your account from NA to JP the last time?

Maybe it's because you told your teammates to open their eyes which could be seen as racial slur? XD

Sweet Sayonara1 votes

Transfer to JP was fine (including skins). It's there in the client. Keep looking! It is South East Asia and China that I can't transfer to. Because both locations have third parties hosting the servers.

Definitely didn't mean anything by my eyes comment. I even said plz!

Stand Alone Wolf1 votes

{quoted}

how did you transfer your account to JP? I thought JP wasn't included among the list of regions you can transfer to? (also what happened to that feature? can't seem to find it in the client anymore). Did they allow you to transfer your skins when you transferred your account from NA to JP the last time?

Maybe it's because you told your teammates to open their eyes which could be seen as racial slur? XD

I wanted to make a troll comment on that soo bad but it looks like ya beat me to it.

EssenceOfPoo1 votes

dont beat yourself up [slayer-jinx-wink]

A Cynical Asian2 votes

{quoted}

how did you transfer your account to JP? I thought JP wasn't included among the list of regions you can transfer to? (also what happened to that feature? can't seem to find it in the client anymore). Did they allow you to transfer your skins when you transferred your account from NA to JP the last time?

Maybe it's because you told your teammates to open their eyes which could be seen as racial slur? XD

OH MY GOD. I deadass laughed out loud. Good catch, lmao

ModPeriscope1 votes

You had a previous reply? What did support tell you then? Did you have a recent 2 week suspension? At the end of December?

Chermorg10 votes

So, you seem to be confused. Chat is not a trap. It's just expected you hold yourself to the decency of public standard. If you're playing on the Japanese servers, you're expected to behave as Japanese would in public. That culture does tend to have a much higher level of politeness when in public or dealing with strangers - so it's not unreasonable that you were too harsh and blunt with them for their liking. As the support agent said, each server has slightly different levels of punishable behavior depending on what the community of that server wants and the culture. You seem to have a great command of the English language - which leads me to believe you're possibly a native speaker from either the US, UK, or Europe - all of which have this blunt style of attitude with others. That type of attitude may not fly in Japan - and that's your fault for not conforming to the standards of the environment you're in.

Furthermore, you say that they can take away your account at any moment for any reason - and while this is technically true, they do not do this. They do not lock or ban accounts without reason - ever. You were given an explanation - you just don't like hearing it. The bottom line is your behavior was not in line with that expected of someone on the JP servers, and as such you were given warnings and then a permanent ban.

You weren't banned for "simply making suggestions" - you were banned for the attitude you had in doing so.

Sweet Sayonara2 votes

Hi Chermorg. Thanks for your reply. I don't visit the forums often (I probably should have... might have avoided this misunderstanding) so not quite sure what an Advisor does. I'll just assume you have some connection with Riot and that overcoming your bias will be unlikely. But here goes...

Can I ask you to reread my chat log? This time... don't make any assumptions about who I am or where I come from. In fact, imagine I am a young, innocent 13 year old school girl with not one bad bone in my body. Go ahead.. I'll give you a second...

Now imagine I am a 45 year old drunk, pissed off that my wife left me and all I have left is League... Again.. I'll give you a second...

What's the point? Just about any sentence in the english language can have "attitude" if the reader is biased against it. If that is incorrect, and I used specific words that convey a negative attitude, please feel free to point them out.

On the other hand, there most certainly is such a thing as objectively negative language. Using swear words or hate speech particularly when it is used to put others down is never okay. But as you can see, I didn't use any objectively negative language. At worst the language in my chat log is ambiguous. Personally, I don't agree with punishing ambiguous language, but for the sake of this discussion, let's say we need to. What sounds reasonable to you - a 5 day chat restriction? 10 day chat restriction? even a 5 day playing ban? Well apparently Riot believes a full life-time account ban is the right way to go. Ouch. Even if you thought punishment was appropriate, I think you would agree that a full account ban is extreme, no?

Regarding play and chat on the Japanese server, I have lived and worked in Asia for the past 10 years. I am familiar with Japanese culture and actually love visiting Tokyo and other Japanese cities. Having said that, I must say, not until two days ago (after receiving the ban) had I ever heard that "each server has slightly different levels of punishable behavior depending on what the community of that server wants and the culture". Not only is that information no where in the LOL game or LOL client (I couldn't find it), but it is incredibly hard to find on the web. Riot doesn't even tell you that when you get a chat restriction. I only found out after sending emails back and fourth with the LOL support person. Considering that this very well could have been a key reason my account was banned (and loss of 200 USD worth of RP), don't you think this should have been communicated to me sooner? Say when I switch servers or when I receive my first chat restriction?

Furthermore, am I to believe that diversity in LOL is not encouraged? That if you play on a specific server, all of your actions and communications should assimilate? I did grow up in the US (as you astutely pointed out) and I most definitely am more direct than your average Japanese player. In the vast majority of games, I have found this to be a positive for the team, not a negative. Being more direct and assertive means the team communicates better and works better as a team (Asians do a ton of things well, but not everything, https://youtu.be/Bk51T8X2lXA ). When I wasn't banned or chat restricted, I picked up a ton of Leadership Honor. A system that punishes nonconformity - and especially when that system is hardly (if at all) communicated, is just plain wrong.

And yes, chat is a trap. As long as Riot continues to believe that everyone is a troll and assume the worst in people, even the most level-headed, team-orientated comments will be misconstrued and lead to an unceremonious banishment.

I assume there is zero I can do about my ban now, so rather than ask you to speak to Riot on my behalf, I would appreciate it if you can encourage them to update and improve their system. An easy fix is to treat ambiguous language differently. Instead of giving a full account ban, continue to give smaller chat restrictions or playing bans. Easy, no?

Thank you for listening. I really appreciate it.

Cheers

ModPeriscope2 votes

You might think you were being ambiguous, but if that were the case, how'd you even get reported? I think when you're being, or trying to be, ambiguous in the game, it's going to be taken negatively; otherwise, you would have been explicit in whatever other positive thing you could have said.

don't you think this should have been communicated to me sooner

It wasn't when you got your chat restrictions or 2-week ban? It doesn't really sound like you've gone to support until now.

Sweet Sayonara1 votes

I wasn't trying to be anything. I made comments that in retrospect were ambiguous. it's definitely a lesson learned, but unfortunately it came too late.

I didn't go to support until now. Why should I need to go to support to find out the basic structure/rules of the chat function? Rules and expectations should be clearly communicated in advance of a ban.

A Cynical Asian3 votes

It could be the slightly authoritative caps you occasionally used. This is nowhere near what it takes to be a permaban in my opinion, but I have to agree with you that the current moderation system is beyond broken.

Sweet Sayonara2 votes

For you it is authoritative. For me it is using a text size that people will see in the bottom left corner of their screen as is flies by with in the rest of there chat. Again, it is only when you assume that someone is a bad person or trolling that the language I used takes on a negative tone.

EL HAMSTERO3 votes

if you use chat regularly you Will end up banned

Stand Alone Wolf5 votes

[{quoted}](name=EL HAMSTERO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=A9EHnwuc,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-01-22T10:35:27.088+0000)

if you use chat regularly you Will end up banned

Here, let me correct you by changing the wording up. "If you use chat negatively, you will get banned."

Timethief492 votes

Did you have a 14 day Ban or Chat restrictions before?

Sweet Sayonara2 votes

Yes

Ådriåno2 votes

Damnn thats rough, yes never spend a doar into riot again, but you literally said nothing negative... their reason is bullshit, they just give 0 fucks about you so they give you that answer with no actual answer. I got permad for cursing 24/7 but you, you did nothing 😂😂 feelsbad bro

EvilDustMan2 votes

When was your 14 day ban

Sweet Sayonara1 votes

December 2017

EvilDustMan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sweet Sayonara,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=A9EHnwuc,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-01-23T01:08:22.661+0000)

December 2017

That would do it. It's not that far off from your 14 day ban. The sooner, the less leeway you get.

Sweet Sayonara1 votes

Yea. Seems reasonable that that would play a role.

To me it just highlights a key issue: what exactly am I doing wrong? I look at my chat, and I don't see anything obviously wrong. Hence I'm probably making the same mistakes over and over again. And mind you, Riot won't actually tell me what specifically I did wrong. I've only heard a couple guesses on this forum. Nothing concrete.

ClitSlapper1 votes

I mean, judging by what tantrum posted, its pretty obvious what was wrong, but sometimes us toxic folks cant tell we're being toxic because that is our normal behavior.[slayer-jinx-catface]

Zezilian1 votes

Soon RIOT fanboys will tell you that sigh is a negative word and therefore worthy of punishment.

Zezilian1 votes

3 times you said LOL, It's a negative word because here it means League of Legends but LOL employers thought you was laughing out loud. By laughing out loud you was making a lot of noise and distracting fellow players for their great efforts to win.

Definitely deserve perma ban. Kappa

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