Constant Mastery Point Bullying

Granark·May 22, 2019·6 votes·5,939 views

Background information: I am a 2.5 million mastery heimerdinger player.

Ever since the patch where mastery points is available to be seen on the loading screen; I and several other high mastery point players that I know are consistently and constantly bullied by allied and enemy teams (mostly allied teams).

Common insults are,"no life", "kill yourself", "you suck with that amount of mastery"; "go outside"....basically just constant personal insults about negative behavior regarding my amount of heimerdinger mastery points.

This behavior is consistent and not rare either.

32 Comments

LegendinaboxMay 22, 20194 votes

Just mute them and report them after game. They will get what they deserve.

PresBushDid711May 22, 20193 votes

I think they should make MPs more visible, like when a pick is locked in so we have the proper information to consider dodging.

GranarkMay 22, 20192 votes

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I think they should make MPs more visible, like when a pick is locked in so we have the proper information to consider dodging.

Dodging is another negative player behavior that should not be advocated as it increases queue times for everyone and leads to less balanced games based on statistical cherry picking.

BoxOfFedUpFrogs May 22, 20193 votes

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Dodging is another negative player behavior that should not be advocated as it increases queue times for everyone and leads to less balanced games based on statistical cherry picking.

That doesn't take into account the fact that by dodging you are less likely to get that person who might need to leave, or is tilted or a negative person in your game. Instead of thinking of that dodge as a time waste think of it as not wasting 30+ minutes in a bad game.

SaezioMay 23, 20191 votes

Good job looking at 1 person and not the other 9 in that match....

PresBushDid711May 22, 20192 votes

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Dodging is another negative player behavior that should not be advocated as it increases queue times for everyone and leads to less balanced games based on statistical cherry picking.

Well I don't know about statistical cherry picking, but if I had known my mid and top had a combined 3300 MP I would have dodged and saved myself 35 mins and 18 LP.

rujitraMay 22, 20192 votes

This is not a behavior Riot will be encouraging.

IFeltLikeAGringoMay 23, 20191 votes

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I think they should make MPs more visible, like when a pick is locked in so we have the proper information to consider dodging.

I disagree. Mastery points dont dictate skill. A skilled player will own newbs with any champ regardless of mastery. Macro is the important thing, and if you have good mechanical skills, you can be good with any champ, especially if you already have a few games under your belt with them, on top of playing against that champ for years.

gay personMay 23, 20193 votes

Just report them, they probably spend more time playing than you lol. Projecting is common in league.

The EcdysiastMay 22, 20192 votes

Solutions:

Enter > "/mute all"

Play only vs. AI.

Realize that what strangers on a game say about you doesn't mean anything unless you believe it's true. And if you believe it's true that you have no life because you have 2.5 million mastery on Heimerdinger, maybe you need to take a break.

Of course, you could wait until after they've already done the psychological damage and tilted you to report them, but what's the point in that? Riot can't punish people before they say those things. And since you don't actually encounter the same people all too often, punishing them afterwards doesn't actually do anything for you personally. So the best option is to prevent it from hurting your feelings in the first place, either by making it impossible to see or by getting used to it.

GranarkMay 22, 20191 votes

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Solutions:

Enter > "/mute all"

or

Play only vs. AI.

or

Realize that what strangers on a game say about you doesn't mean anything unless you believe it's true. And if you believe it's true that you have no life because you have 2.5 million mastery on Heimerdinger, maybe you need to take a break.

Of course, you could wait until after they've already done the psychological damage and tilted you to report them, but what's the point in that? Riot can't punish people before they say those things. And since you don't actually encounter the same people all too often, punishing them afterwards doesn't actually do anything for you personally. So the best option is to prevent it from hurting your feelings in the first place, either by making it impossible to see or by getting used to it.

No, I am not believing their insults. I don't plan to kill my self nor am I feeling negative thoughts or feelings about my life from playing a lot of heimerdinger.

I do think this is a distraction not only for myself but countless other higher mastery players. As this is the player behavior forum; I believe it is the proper area for this suitable discourse.

The solution could be to simply remove the mastery points from showing before games as it has become an unnecessary distraction due to the general immaturity level of the player base not being contained through self governance or harsher punishment.

The EcdysiastMay 22, 20192 votes

That's not a solution. It just gives you an unfair advantage because they won't know to be weary around you.

What's immature is taking the words of anonymous people online in a game to heart. And if, as you say, you aren't doing that... then there's no issue. Play the game and ignore it.

ChaosReynMay 23, 20191 votes

Yours is not a solution either.

I work as an (unarmed) security officer. We have gates that lock down/lock out intruders. If there's an issue with us not letting people through, and we cannot de-escalate the situation, we are instructed to notify law enforcement. That's all proper procedure, and that's all fine.

However...if the intruder is armed, is that going to stop them from firing? No. They're still gonna fire the shots. They'll still be locked out, they might miss...but the shots are still fired and the damage is still done.

I can mute every person, every game whether the moment there's an issue or before there can ever be one...that's the equivalent of stopping them at the gates. But there's still an issue. There's still someone screaming in all chat and not playing the game, and their lack of presence from doing so is still the equivalent of damage done.

This is why I say - these people cannot and should not be let off the hook just because there are preventable measures to stop you from hearing them. If you are throwing the game because you'd rather spew toxicity and hatred than play your fucking champion, you are still a problem, and THAT problem is not solved by muting.

It's still my opinion they need to focus more on finding better ways to detect and dole out punishments for people intentionally trolling games or just inting when they don't feel like playing anymore...but vehemently toxic people are consequently failing their teams in similar fashion by playing all-chat instead of the game - regardless of if you can hear them or not.

The EcdysiastMay 23, 20191 votes

See, the difference is in League you have the ability to be completely "bulletproof" via the mute function, and you have the option to use it before anyone "fires a shot."

Again, I never said they should be let off the hook. But you-- assuming your claim is true-- should know preventative measures are always preferable to punishment.

If you have an issue with people making fun of you for no-lifing Heimerdinger, don't play Heimerdinger. Otherwise deal with it. It's not even your allies doing it.

ChaosReynMay 26, 20191 votes

You the player do.

But not everything is bulletproof. The state of the game can be described as fluid...but honestly, the state of the game this season almost feels more like glass - if certain champions get a good lead, they snowball the entire game to a quick end. If you're familiar with the type of people to sit there and flame you, you'd know they rarely stop at a couple lines. Some do, sure. Most decide once they start failing their lane to continue coming after "the reason they lost lane" and end up losing even harder from it.

The mute function is fine for making sure they deal you no harm. But if they're trying to the point that it damages the game-state, they're doing more than simply harassing you - they're throwing the game just as any actual troll would.

SaezioMay 23, 20192 votes

How do you even know they are spamming? For all you know op means his allies/enemies type a couple lines at start of game and a couple lines after OP dies/missplays.

And it is a valid way to counter verbal toxicity (especially in OP's case where you know the reason for toxicity) by muting all from the start.

ChaosReynMay 26, 20191 votes

If you're asking that question, you're obviously not all that great at spotting the moments they could be playmaking where they're literally standing still doing nothing.

Except they're not doing nothing. They're flaming you (or someone), and they're essentially afk while they keyboard warrior a guy that cant freaking see it.

I suppose you're either really lucky not to have people that fucking dumb in your games, or you just never noticed it. Either way, those people are just as bad as actual trolls - if they're spending more time raging than playing, they're still not playing the game.

In regards to the OPs case though, I grant you that I've no way to prove it. But those people do exist.

AlienPrimateMay 22, 20191 votes

I'm nowhere near 2.5 mil but I have had nothing but positive feedback when people mention my 850k mastery on Taric. I frequently have enemy laners say things like "I'm impressed" before the game even starts just for my dedication for a champion who a lot of people don't even know how he works. Others have said something like "teach me senpai" after I get first blood in top lane. There have maybe only been one or two people who had something negative to say about my mastery.

IFeltLikeAGringoMay 23, 20191 votes

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I'm nowhere near 2.5 mil but I have had nothing but positive feedback when people mention my 850k mastery on Taric. I frequently have enemy laners say things like "I'm impressed" before the game even starts just for my dedication for a champion who a lot of people don't even know how he works. Others have said something like "teach me senpai" after I get first blood in top lane. There have maybe only been one or two people who had something negative to say about my mastery.

Same with my 500k anivia mastery. Its usually neutral or positive. i have yet to be insulted for it... but ofc its nowhere near 2.5mil.

SaezioMay 23, 20191 votes

You have to keep in mind the champ matters.

I can't imagine anyone would get positive feedback if they had 2,5m mastery on teemo or zed or rengar.

ViperVenomMay 22, 20192 votes

Tell your mom on them

Plat HardstuckXDMay 23, 20192 votes

Bruh people dont even need to see my mastery points on Singed and they flame me for playing him. It's just a thing people will latch onto to try tilt you. Disabling chat from enemies is best way to deal with it if you cant handle the banter.

GatekeeperTDSMay 22, 20191 votes

Toxic people are going to be toxic regardless. This way, you've thrown them a bone and you know what they'll be toxic about.

Mute and live your life.

HammermancerMay 22, 20191 votes

i dont mind my profile showing it

I'd prefer load screen didn't show it

I'm really getting sick of people just saying "Jayce" at spawn in all chat and then i seem to get camped or roamed on, even if they don't get kills, i just seem to notice a lot more jungle presence

And god help me if I ever lose a lane even once,

World peace plzMay 22, 20191 votes

What i dont understand is why people are suprised or react like that when they see sombody with 2.5 mastery points. That stuff is out for like 3 a 4 years so its natural to see people with 2.5 mil mastery points.

MoonscourgeMay 22, 20191 votes

So why should anybody give a damn about what other people say? I play Conqueror Elise and Diana and regularly hard carry games. They ping me 24/7 how bad I am or tell me how stupid the build is and that I should get a different main. Let people enjoy things.

IFeltLikeAGringoMay 23, 20191 votes

Report them, mute them, ignore them. You know your life. Dont let others dictate your perception of it.

ISitting DuckIMay 26, 20191 votes

Get a gf and a job then they will stop. Or tell them you play old school runescape.

The Ićę Witch Jan 31, 20201 votes

I get this all the time with my 2.6 mill mastery but guess what? 99.9 % of the time i have a better life than those who say all those things. I know it's not true and i just throw in their face and ask them what so special about their lives off the rift? People like that are: 1. insecure 2. hate their own life ( hurt people will hurt people) 3. They never got much love growing up. You really have to feel sorry for those kind of people. I have 2.6 million points so what? They need to see my bank account numbers, i can afford to play league anytime i want. I go to bed and wake up anytime i want. 9/10 people like that don't have that luxury and struggling in life. I have a great life. Many would wish to be in my shoes. lol Mostly kids who live with their parents being keyboard warriors behind a computer. A bunch of sad individuals.