Being solo and having a team report

Pl4yer 0ne·May 23, 2016·6 votes·132,587 views

Riot should do something about teams reporting a single person because 1 of the teammates didn't like the way u played and so u get a 3-4 man report for no reason. This has to be the dumbest thing ever! So I play teemo that doesn't mean u don't help him just because u dont like the champ, I'm on the team too and just to ignore that person setting him to fail is so BS! A team should only be able to report 1 time, I only get to report 1 time as they get to report me 3-4 times. BS in my eyes!!!!

70 Comments

HethaleanMay 23, 201620 votes

Did you know that 1 report is the exact same weight as 9 reports on the same person in a game? Also, false reports do absolutely nothing. You won't receive a correction unless you did something wrong.

FovereMay 23, 20164 votes

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Did you know that 1 report is the exact same weight as 9 reports on the same person in a game? Also, false reports do absolutely nothing. You won't receive a correction unless you did something wrong.

haha.

how completely wrong.

Multiple reports increase the likelihood of flagging your account for review. So unless you are picture perfect in every single game, they do in fact count quite a bit

SmokedAlmondsMay 23, 201612 votes

The only thing reports do is trigger reviews of your behavior. No amount of reports changes what that review finds, only when it is triggered.

Your behavior gets you punished, not reports.

HethaleanMay 23, 20164 votes

GaleWinUnleashedMay 23, 201610 votes

Reports from premades are in fact treated as only 1 report, precisely in order to counter groups taking advantage of their numbers to report someone they don't like. Reports from multiple groups or individuals do still count separately, though.

PennsMay 23, 20161 votes

Why would reports from premades have to be treated as only 1 report if 9 reports are treated as 1 anyway tho?

GaleWinUnleashedMay 23, 20164 votes

A single game can be weighted more heavily if multiple groups/individuals report someone separately. 9 separate reports from individual players are not counted as a single report. It's a common misconception, but it makes little difference; if you're getting reported by every single player in a game, at minimum that's 2 entirely separate groups that decided to report you, and they probably have a somewhat valid reason for it.

Basically just don't worry about getting ganged up on by a premade for no reason. If you did nothing wrong, you won't be punished, even if their entire group reports you.

PennsMay 23, 20161 votes

So what youre saying is that 9 reports do more than 1 and asking for reports does help?

GaleWinUnleashedMay 23, 20161 votes

It gives it slightly more weight, but it won't get them punished any faster. No, that's not quite it. It might get them punished faster (no proof of that yet), but it will not cause a punishment for a single game of mildly toxic behavior just because every single person decided to report it. One report flags the game just the same as 9 reports, but 9 may give that game more weight when considering a punishment. Might affect the severity of the punishment, but not the speed at which it is dispensed.

Asking for reports still does not improve the situation at all. Most likely it'll just make the person play or behave worse, further ruining the game.

RiotRiot TantramMay 23, 201665 votes

Multiple reports do NOT increase the likelihood of flagging a game for review. One report is all it takes. There is no benefit to asking for others to report a player.

ViralimpulseMay 23, 20161 votes

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Multiple reports do NOT increase the likelihood of flagging a game for review. One report is all it takes. There is no benefit to asking for others to report a player.

which is weird because i constantly everyone saying report X player on both mine and the enemy team.

We could even argue and say that's being toxic because now you're going to make the person playing feel/play terrible because now you have people that will report you no matter what you do, even if you didn't break any rules.

SrbLudMay 23, 20163 votes

People think multiple reports matter and preasure others to do it so the person gets banned. If you did nothing wrong and someone reports you, you have nothing to worry about. The reports will be shrugged and their future reports will weigh less. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/tvviuURj-multiple-reports-and-other-misconceptions

RoakOriginalMar 24, 20171 votes

And report weight is actually why multiple reports matter, since your can be lower due to numerous reports, but your teammates can have more impact... :D So till there are different levels of account credibility, multiple reports do have weight, since more people reporting = bigger chance of getting caught by credible player...

RiotRiot TantramMar 27, 20179 votes

Reports haven't lost weight since the instant feedback system was put in place.

It's actually really simple.

if (reports > 0) { review(); }

HowPlayGAEMMar 27, 20171 votes

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RiotRiot TantramMar 27, 20175 votes

That was the old system. 3 years ago? We have since then iterated many times that only one report is needed to flag games.

Deep Terror NamiMar 27, 20174 votes

Could you clarify; are you saying there is no such thing as report weight at all with the IFS?

RiotRiot TantramMar 27, 20176 votes

Confirmed. Reports do not lose value based upon the number of times you report players.

This used to be the case. It is no longer true.

Deep Terror NamiMar 27, 20173 votes

In other words, even for false reporting making it less likely to trigger a case review? I just have to be clear on this so myself and other volunteers and the Arbiters are giving out only the most accurate info.

RiotRiot TantramMar 27, 20177 votes

Yes. Every single report triggers a review.

Deep Terror NamiMar 27, 20173 votes

Every time a match is reported the player is reviewed? I thought a review doesn't happen until the case gets big enough.

RiotRiot TantramMar 27, 20178 votes

Yes, every time a game is reported, it is reviewed by the system.

That is why we say only 1 report is needed.

DessemMar 28, 20172 votes

When you say "a game is reported", does it audit every player in the games or only the one who receives reports?

What's the point of filling in the text box explaining your report, by the way? Can the machine understand it?

Kei143Mar 28, 20172 votes

Clarity questions so I can convey information correctly.

This is what I tell others:

Multiple reports is like asking a bunch of people in the same room "are the lights currently on?", the answer is always the same.

If the review's answer is "yes, there was toxicity", then that one game (not number of reports) will be added to a person's case.

Does this properly describe the system?

RaxistaichoMar 28, 20171 votes

By any chance, do your reviewers focus only on conduct of the person who was being reviewed, or on the behavior of all present in the game?

scazzmanMar 31, 20172 votes

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Yes, every time a game is reported, it is reviewed by the system.

That is why we say only 1 report is needed.

so does this mean i can simply report all 9 players for unsportsmanlike conduct and verbal abuse every single game, and the people who were actually toxic will still be flagged?

vOmvbrawfUMar 31, 20172 votes

So, if my 1 report flagged the Thresh I had in my game that ran down the mid lane and died on purpose....is that just deemed to not be intentionally feeding? Or is intentionally feeding not bannable anymore, just like going AFK over and over again and trolling isn't?

Photos of GhostsApr 1, 20171 votes

Ugh the limits of discussion view sry

k4rm4k4z3Apr 16, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9VrUtrJo,comment-id=00000000000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-03-27T22:15:01.972+0000)

Yes, every time a game is reported, it is reviewed by the system.

That is why we say only 1 report is needed.

Any of this or other Red posts from this thread being added to an updated FAQ on the report system?

TCG Hoola HoopApr 23, 20181 votes

It is reportable and punishable. Since the review is automated it can be hard to be detected. I got once trolled by a 4 man premate group (banning my champ, taunting and insulting me in champ selection) and came to the stupid conclusion to not give them the satisfaction of a dodge. (horrible decision in hindsight). Well I ran it down mid and got instantly banned after 9 years of not being punished before. What I learned from that was that the report system actually works and it doesn't matter how often and how many people report you. If you do stupid stuff you get punished.

RaxistaichoMar 28, 20171 votes

Is it possible to get punished though if you're constantly making fraudulent reports?

Photos of GhostsApr 1, 20171 votes

Yeah well you didn't ever say that it was a CHANGE, it just looked like new information about the same system. We've been trying to conciliate all these things since, and imagine an overall system where it might be true.

Doc RobotApr 9, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9VrUtrJo,comment-id=0000000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-27T18:28:29.209+0000)

Reports haven't lost weight since the instant feedback system was put in place.

It's actually really simple.

if (reports > 0) { review(); }

Can I report you for not using Allman indenting?

Azure HamsterApr 23, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9VrUtrJo,comment-id=0000000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-27T18:28:29.209+0000)

Reports haven't lost weight since the instant feedback system was put in place.

It's actually really simple.

if (reports > 0) { review(); }

OMG that K&R formatting tho

if (reports > 0) { review(); }

Wish I could get it to indent properly, too. :/

Caitlyn

scazzmanMay 23, 20167 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9VrUtrJo,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2016-05-23T17:35:27.493+0000)

Multiple reports do NOT increase the likelihood of flagging a game for review. One report is all it takes. There is no benefit to asking for others to report a player.

how does that work in regards to report weight then? why does report weight even exist if this is the case. i would greatly appreciate if riot would stop pussyfooting around this question

SqkergMay 23, 20162 votes

Maybe because they don't want people to abuse/avoid their system?

Vistha KaiMay 26, 20163 votes

Security through obscurity is the shittiest security logic, right after not having any.

So tell me, how do you abuse a system like this:

If you report spam, your reports are meaningless. If you ask for reports, you can get banned in return. Only one report is needed to trigger a case - Obvious lie. I'm reporting toxic individuals on regular basis and have yet to see a pop-up after, I report somebody, who sports with a text like "go kill yourself irl" or "uninstall, you worthless effing feeder" at least once per 5 minutes.

DanettaMar 24, 20172 votes

"One report per game is maximum" doesn't mean just one flagged game is enough.

Nameless VoiceMay 23, 201617 votes

I really wish the above message would be displayed on-screen in game whenever someone uses the word "report" in chat. Preferably alongside blocking the triggering message from being sent.

IcyPepperMay 23, 20164 votes

Preferably alongside blocking the triggering message from being sent.

I dunno. Some people do say "report" in a certain appropriate situations.

"Report, soldier!" for dem Azir mains or

"Report me for feeding" if you die to a bot in an AI game. Obviously a joke, though.

Nameless VoiceMay 23, 20162 votes

At this point, I must admit I've seen the word "report" thrown about so much that "report me" jokes are decidedly not funny any more.

IcyPepperMay 23, 20161 votes

Well, at least you're honest.

ModPeriscopeMar 27, 20173 votes

Or as one of those weird bumps we get during the loading screen. No one cares Illaoi was GP's first love!

All right I do enjoy some trivia but that sounds like it'd be pretty helpful.

Photos of GhostsMay 23, 20164 votes

There's still the problem of report weight. A serial reporter whose report don't matter for poo could hone more entrusted members of the community into reporting that same person.

I am aware that in the end it doesn't really change the state of things given that if the reports aren't valid, report weight won't change anything. However, the claim that 9 reports can have more influence than 1 is partially true, in that 9 reports have the value of the highest valued report out of those 9.

Great MutaApr 1, 20171 votes

However, the claim that 9 reports can have more influence than 1 is partially true, in that 9 reports have the value of the highest valued report out of those 9.

Excellent point. Well done.

RaxistaichoMar 28, 20171 votes

Oh, really? Well this is good to learn. Is there actually a team of people who review each and every report? That must get busy.