Double standards

Puppy likes Feet·Jun 9, 2019·4 votes·1,835 views

Why do players who tell me to "get cancer" or "kill myself" not getting banned, while i'll get punished for replying?

15 Comments

HotarµJun 9, 20193 votes

There are no double standards because Riot doesn't hand pick punishments to be doled out. If you received a punishment it's because you broke the rules as well. You don't receive punishments for responding civilly.

Errors can occur, people can stop playing at any time for any reason, and the IFS message is inconsistent at best. There is no way to consistently verify if someone has been punished.

Puppy likes FeetJun 9, 20192 votes

i'm fine with receiving punishment. but i don't think it's fair to give a punishment to a player who's responding to the initial, way worse flame from other players, who wish death upon me, while they don't receive any punishment

HotarµJun 9, 20193 votes

while they don't receive any punishment

Again, you cannot consistently verifying someone has been punished or not. There are no double standards.

Also from a completely logical perspective, why would Riot allow players to harass you with death threats and then punish you? That doesn't make any sense from a business standpoint and it would devastate the community entirely. Nobody would support the game if that were the case.

i'm fine with receiving punishment. but i don't think it's fair to give a punishment to a player who's responding to the initial, way worse flame from other players, who wish death upon me,

You're not just "responding" though, you're engaging in negativity, even if it may not be as severe as the person you're talking to.

Riot punishes for all acts of toxicity because it doesn't promote constructive discussion, doesn't improve the state of the game, and it just annoys your other teammates.

On a very basic level, two wrongs don't make a right.

JoB0bJun 9, 20193 votes

Riot doesn't gaf. You respond you are just as guilty no matter what you say. Riot doesn't want people to defend themselves . Just mute people and get on with your life

Imperial PandaaJun 9, 20193 votes

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Riot doesn't want people to defend themselves . Just mute people

Muting people is defending yourself. Riot doesn't want you to retaliate to verbal provocation and make things worse.

JoB0bJun 9, 20193 votes

Muting is not defending your self. Its making your self passive. Like a kid who gets bullied , and does nothing then shoots up a school. Being able to vocally defend your self is important

Imperial PandaaJun 9, 20193 votes

False.

Get into a shouting match with a school bully and either things get worse, or you both get in trouble.

The process is ignore (mute) and then inform an authority figure (report).

^ that is how you are supposed to handle if you don't want to run the risk of getting in trouble. If they didn't have a mute button then sureb retaliate.

Defending is protecting oneself. Physical fight example would be purely blocking punches.

Retaliating is dishing back out what is given. Physically fight example would be actually fighting and not just blocking.

JoB0bJun 9, 20192 votes

Nope , gotta handle stuff your self, can't trust anyone to handle it for you... If someone hits me, bet your life I'm gonna do everything I can to beat the shit out of that person so it doesn't happen again. Same thing with verbal abuse not gonna sit there and let someone abuse me I'm gonna throw it right back in there face as is should be acceptable. The world is soft af. Is nothing wrong with standing up for your self.

Imperial PandaaJun 9, 20192 votes

If someone takes a swing, go ahead and do what you need to physically protect yourself.

You wanna say the world is soft because people actually have the capacity to ignore others? I counter that you are soft because you feel the need to get into a shouting match with someone. It takes a certain toughnesd to walk away from someone baiting you into a conflict.

Just because you feel it is acceptable, doesn't mean a business will. You get into a shouting match at my place of work; both of yalls assess will end up outside. I've got other customers I'm going to watch out for.

JoB0bJun 9, 20191 votes

No just takes a someone being a pussy who is ok with being stomped on. This also isn't work it's game.

Imperial PandaaJun 9, 20192 votes

It is a game, but it is also a place of business. It is Riot's business and place of business for players to play said game.

As such, Riot decided that bickering can be punishable as it can ruin 3-7 other peoples game as well. So they give you a tool to actually defend yourself, Mute; and if you feel particularly spiteful/annoyed, the report tool.

Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. Riot has given you what they feel is a proper tool for defending yourself. Choose to use it or not. Sometimes it takes a bigger person to let something go instead of engaging. As such, good day to you.

JoB0bJun 9, 20191 votes

Riot also considers you muting people as being toxic. You can drink all the riot Kool aide you want. People should be able to say w.e they want. And if people don't want to hear then mute away...riot wants people to use the language they want. Hints why you can turn off the filter. They do it so people get banned and so they make more money from the likelyhood of them creating a new account and spending money.

CrazyMonkeyCZJun 9, 20192 votes

Did you reported them or submitted ticket? If they used modified versions of words it's easy to fool bots.

Are they still playing?

If you got banned, it either means that you violated rules multiple times or used instaban word.

Puppy likes FeetJun 9, 20192 votes

i didn't got banned, i received a chat block for 10 games. and yeah, of course i reported them. i think it's not fair to not punish death wishes. this happened multiple times for me and people got punished 2/10 times for this extreme kind of toxicity.

ExtricateJun 10, 20191 votes

Because Riot has employees that can't figure out how to remove trolls and allow decent people to vent their natural frustrations with in game assholes. Despite the fact that the game has a MUTE BUTTON available to EVERYONE to ignore and MUTE the in game chat..... In game UNPREVENTABLE TROLLING is 100% allowed while venting frustration in a CHAT BOX anyone can MUTE is bannable... This shows you the naive and childlike mentality of Riot.