Why Does Chat exist, if its just used to ban someone for anything?

Boof My Dildo··1 votes·1,152 views

it really seems useless, other than a ban tool , any premade 5 is going to use voice chat if they actually want to perform better as a team, you cant argue that a premade 5 is more effective typing than using a chat service and pings,

In my own experience, 2 punishments, Riot employees

"passive aggressive to the game itself"

and 2

"You should know that constantly arguing with teammates will lead to a penalty"

passive aggressive to the game itself, seems like an odd reason to be punished, and the employee didn't really know what he/she was talking about, passive aggressive gameplay? passive aggressive talk about league?

and then for arguing? They add constantly, but that's on reported games only, so out of over 200 games, they punish you on 5 for arguing with someone? Even in a game where i said 1 bad thing, then realized it wasn't worth it and spent the whole game, complimenting plays, trying to get them work together, asked to stop flaming me, that was the final game in the decider to punish me?

and so if I get in any argument with someone, even remaining civil, simply critcize a bad play in 10 out of 400 games, ill be pema banned?

The chat system is there for what? to finally trigger people who are being flamed? who are in games with smurfs who dont care about the competive play in that match? Cause it's not there to improve game play, chat does that, and if you even criticize someones play, you get you're report and you're punished for arguing/?being passive aggressive to the game itself??

Riots solution of everyone just /mute all unless you're telling them they are beautiful, but if you criticize someones game play mildly, you're done, seems weak

This will get down voted im sure, from what ive seen on here anyone that brings it up, is relentlessly attacked, even saying thanks to people that answer questions on here gets downvoted, understandable on the bias it would receive here,

but its the truth, banning someone that puts money into the game, for mild arguments on gameplay, and i find this board is very suppresive to a lot of people, people preaching about their chat on game which wasn't really offensive other than to what was happening in the game, but attack and bully others on here, its very contradictory

7 Comments

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Most people don't have a problem consistently using chat in a negative manner.

Boof My Dildo1 votes

I agree, but 5 out of 200-250 is not consistent

however 195/200 245/250 is very consistent

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

You are not provided logs for every match you were reported for negative behavior, you are only given a few examples.

Boof My Dildo1 votes

that would allow many completely false reports be used against you in a punishment without review, by riot, and yourself, if they do it that way then the system is broken

the punishment would no longer then be based on consistently accurate reports

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

I misspoke, I was meaning valid reports; no false reports are being used against you. If you feel your punishment was a mistake then I suggest submitting a ticket to request a manual review.

Boof My Dildo1 votes

Where can i do this, after reading this, I'm disappointed, I just started playing awhile ago, up to level 29 , still learning and im not that good, but i play blind pick normals, yet its using how well i do in games, my items, etc to help punish me?

"When a player’s reported, the instant feedback system collects all reports from the game and compares them with in-game data (statistics, chat, item builds, metrics from past games, etc.) to make a call on a whether or not to punish. If a player ends up punished, they receive a reform card (an in-client message calling out the punishment and evidence of the behavior that caused it). Even if no one is punished, the system stores the report and game info to better inform future decisions when players are reported again."

and then, 3 of my games the people were 10x as rude, with a lot of personal insults, yet my reports are now just disregarded because i was reported and punished?

"Sometimes a player attempts to punish another player by reporting them as a form of retaliation. In a system that relies on honesty, that’s potentially a big problem. We can detect false reports, filter them out, and decrease the effectiveness of future reports from consistently dishonest players. As we continue to build more systems that rely on honest reports, the penalties for false reporting will become more strict."

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Where can i do this

You can reach the support site at the top of the website (click 'Support'), then at the top of that you select Submit a Request to start a ticket. You need to log into the support site for any ticket other than account recovery.

However, I suggest posting the chat logs from your reform card here so the community can discuss it with you. Riot does not typically reduce/remove punishments unless they were an error, and we can help you determine whether requesting a manual review is even worth your time. The system is very accurate and manual reviews almost always agree with its conclusion.

yet its using how well i do in games, my items, etc to help punish me?

Your performance is not a factor in punishment for any reason except if you are intentionally throwing matches. The malicious intent is what you would be punished for, not doing poorly.

and then, 3 of my games the people were 10x as rude, with a lot of personal insults, yet my reports are now just disregarded because i was reported and punished?

No, even toxic players have value in their reports. The only way to lose report value is to consistently make false reports. If they were being a problem too, your reports will contribute to them being punished just the same, though if their record is much cleaner than yours they may not be punished just for that match.

"As we continue to build more systems that rely on honest reports, the penalties for false reporting will become more strict."

Supposedly a player can be banned for submitting many frequent false reports, despite them having little or no weight, but I've not heard of that happening yet.

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