Unsportmanlike?

FEDXSai··2 votes·675 views

for defending ragers and telling people to mute them i'm getting reported for being unsportsmanlike conduct? Does riot need to make a report Dev so that people understand its better to facilitate ragers instead of just contesting them??? For being supportive to ALL of my team i should NOT be penalized, that is the basic concept of teamwork.

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Deep Terror Nami2 votes

I recommend posting the chat logs provided in your Reform Card, if you received one, if you'd like to discuss how you were punished for them.

FEDXSai1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6WF27EEx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-06T03:39:41.389+0000)

I recommend posting the chat logs provided in your Reform Card, if you received one, if you'd like to discuss how you were punished for them.

i wasnt punished just warned :) but even so i don't like being warned for doing nothing wrong that's discrimination!

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

...I think you may have received a notification that a player you reported was punished, and misread it. They got rid of notifications for reports against you quite a while ago.

FEDXSai1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6WF27EEx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-09T21:05:40.474+0000)

...I think you may have received a notification that a player you reported was punished, and misread it. They got rid of notifications for reports against you quite a while ago.

wooow i thought you received a behavioral warning for your actions in case someone was having a bad week? when was that addition removed?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

The notification that used to be there was based purely on report density, so would be triggered for a large amount of reports in a short time whether they were false or not. I believe that's why it was removed, but I think it did have use to help a player change their attitude before it led to punishment.

I think they actually removed it pretty early on after the IFS replaced the Tribunal, though I'm unsure when exactly.

FEDXSai1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6WF27EEx,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-09T23:28:13.913+0000)

The notification that used to be there was based purely on report density, so would be triggered for a large amount of reports in a short time whether they were false or not. I believe that's why it was removed, but I think it did have use to help a player change their attitude before it led to punishment.

I think they actually removed it pretty early on after the IFS replaced the Tribunal, though I'm unsure when exactly.

thank you :)

YerroFever2 votes

I'm not understanding this "defending ragers" concept.

Shouldn't you be defending the non toxic players by calming the ragers or if they are insatiable, tell your teammate that is being targeted to mute the rager and try to bring the team morale back up?

FEDXSai1 votes

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I'm not understanding this "defending ragers" concept.

Shouldn't you be defending the non toxic players by calming the ragers or if they are insatiable, tell your teammate that is being targeted to mute the rager and try to bring the team morale back up?

i suppose i did support him when i said "hes right but just mute him anyways" the guy afk'd legit tyler1 sub player Draven edit:the Rager not the support Draven

YerroFever2 votes

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i suppose i did support him when i said "hes right but just mute him anyways" the guy afk'd legit tyler1 sub player Draven edit:the Rager not the support Draven

There's a fine line to draw when dealing with ragers in game vs post game.

In my experience, during game, regardless of who is right, I try to calm the situation so that it doesn't escalate and it tends to end in better teamwork rather than picking sides of who is right and who is wrong.

If the rager was right, post game I'll acknowledge they were originally right but should have chosen a better way to express themselves so that at least there's acknowledgment and maybe a hope that they won't rage again or at least as much the current game.

I have experienced that in game if I agree with the rager, the team turns on you and you also amplify the rager because they feel justified in lashing out at your teammates. This fractures your team mid game and it turns the game into us vs them vs a united enemy team.

FEDXSai1 votes

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There's a fine line to draw when dealing with ragers in game vs post game.

In my experience, during game, regardless of who is right, I try to calm the situation so that it doesn't escalate and it tends to end in better teamwork rather than picking sides of who is right and who is wrong.

If the rager was right, post game I'll acknowledge they were originally right but should have chosen a better way to express themselves so that at least there's acknowledgment and maybe a hope that they won't rage again or at least as much the current game.

I have experienced that in game if I agree with the rager, the team turns on you and you also amplify the rager because they feel justified in lashing out at your teammates. This fractures your team mid game and it turns the game into us vs them vs a united enemy team.

that's cool to hear you've experienced something similar but i shouldn't require discretion in my games that's how players get worse instead of improve.

YerroFever1 votes

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that's cool to hear you've experienced something similar but i shouldn't require discretion in my games that's how players get worse instead of improve.

Then keep doing what you're doing and continue to have the same experiences over and over because you presume to know the outcome before you try it.

FEDXSai1 votes

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Then keep doing what you're doing and continue to have the same experiences over and over because you presume to know the outcome before you try it.

uhhh thats not what this thread was about, and im not presuming to know anything but teamwork.

Kei1432 votes

you can be reported for anything, doesn't mean you'll automatically be punished.

the system knows how to filter out false reports, so if you indeed did nothing wrong, then you won't be punished for it.

Troll Armada1 votes

It's really hard sometimes when you have gangs of troll s working together for support to realize what is really going down, that's why in all such questionable gamess, I start pausing and hitting the F12 key like crazy!

F12 Takes Screenshots in game, and places the images in a folder in the game directory, then I take those screenshots and upload them to image sharing and put links in the after game reports, and say something like: see chat logs, or if I am in a sassy mood, I say something thing like, "really riot? self explanatory... link to images"

That usually does the trick. Sometimes the best defense is a good offense and like Teemo says, always be prepared, because a lot of these kids are from broken homes and have no values or morality to speak of...

DarnedDragoon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Troll Armada,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6WF27EEx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-06T04:17:21.305+0000)

"It's really hard sometimes when you have gangs of troll s working together. . ."

Oh the irony.

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