Make a "Mute All" Button. I'm tired of getting banned for standing up to trolls. Banned over a troll
If the dev team or admins read this out the whole way, it could change the way the report system works forever. Special ban rules for Blind picks and Drafts, among other gametypes and serious discussion.
I need serious discussion and listening. No lip from power-mongers.
If the game is going to get a polish on its' rune/mastery system and how the game works BEFORE the game starts, they should take care of what's happening DURING and AFTER the games too.
If you get reported in Blinds, the substance of the report should equal NOTHING. BECAUSE, NO STATS MATTER AND THE GAME ISN'T EVEN A SERIOUS ONE. If League of Legends is New York City, and Ranked Flex and Ranked Solo/Duo is Manhattan, Blinds are a lot like The Bronx.
Or for those Westerners, if League Of Legends is like California, and Ranked Solo/Duo and Ranked Flex is Beverly Hills, blinds is South Central Los Angeles.
Both equally good analogies.
If people are trying hard on here as a 5-man premade, good! They're farming for what will soon be Blue Essence, okay. Let them stomp all over the rag-tag newbies and trolls who solo queue.
If there are people on here solo being toxic and trolling, MAKE THAT OKAY! CAN I TELL THIS COMMUNITY THAT I OWN GRAND THEFT AUTO 5 ONLINE, AND NOWADAYS, PEOPLE ARE TOXIC FOR FUN...?
It's a sick and twisted concept, one that needs to be understood nonetheless. People make bonds over standing up against toxic people TOGETHER. SOME PEOPLE DO IT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM LAUGH!
YOU CAN'T PERMA BAN EVERY LAST SALTY SALLY AND TOXIC TIMMY ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE THEY'LL GROW AN ADDICTION TO RUINING YOUR GAME AND WILL MAKE COUNTLESS MORE PROFILES! THE PERMA-BAN HAMMER WASN'T MEANT FOR THE GARBAGE TO GO INTO THE RECYCLING BIN! NO! THEY'RE MEANT TO GO INTO THE GARBAGE.
There's an exchange of feelings, sure, but in the end, we can have one toxic player who satisfied his craving for toxic behavior, and two maybe four people who bonded over rashing on that one kid. Everyone can walk away from a toxic game with a positive outcome, it just needs to be looked at the correct way.
What's the point in perma-banning people? Those people paid hard money for what they had on their first-ever accounts, they get caught up in a situation where they actually become SUPER SORRY when they get perma'd, because if you worked a months' paycheck to see it stolen from a gaming company, YOU'D BE LIVID TOO, and the best that Admin and Dev can tell these people is this-
"well you shoulda thought about that before bapapapapapapa- "well you coulda bapapapa- "don't bapapapappa- "tell it to the bpaapapapa-
^That? is toxic for people of administrative power to do. The last time someone did that to me, I actually destroyed hundreds of dollars of electrical equipment in front of their faces with the most ferocity i've ever exerted, bloodied myself, gashed limbs, nearly caused irreversible bone damage and needed medical attemption when i curb-stomped metal electronics and hay-makered television sets, to show this person what i would do to them the next time they pulled that power-trippy commentation with me. They have NOT, done it since.
woulda coulda shoulda, it doesnt matter because it is what it is, and what it is, is this;
People who put money into Riot, had their money, their hard-earned, grinding-at-their-mcdonalds-job-to-invest-in-your-game money, essentially stolen from them over words spoken like cussing and racism, and not the actually beefy perma-bannable things that matter like DDoS'ing Riot, Death-Threatting the Development team, conspiring to perform acts of terrorism on Riot HQ, Threatening the lives of in-game players with the whereabouts of their addresses, threatening to kill people using exact names, etc. You guys are taking so much money away from people for years. People who got angry over the situation of the in-game communication and circumstances, and not about some kind of, out-of-reality, in-a-bubble sense of anything bigger than that. No one vexes your videogame to the point where they manufacture hatred on a mass scale, unless you give them the hatred to allow that to live in them. No one is Russian-Lenin reincarnate. But, steal enough of their time, money, and life away, and they might.
I could have used a more widely popular World War II dictator there, but i didn't. Why? Because I'm actually trying to make a point, not being this "forever toxic" person that you guys insinuate people to be on first impression. It is foolish to think, that these people were thinking about the punishment system or administrative action, or anything bigger than the game, when they tell people who are ruining the game for others in the game, to fuck off. Some people are on here being toxic to protect your game Riot. I know that's a hard concept to understand.
Anyways,
If it's Drafts, they should have normal substance. People who want organized meta and want to play a game where team comps are balanced are obviously looking for a tough game that doesn't count on a ranked board.
If it's a community gametype like BLOOD MOON or AR URF, reports should equal 50% OF THE WORTH OF A DRAFT PICK REPORT, BECAUSE NO STATS MATTER AN THE GAME ISN'T EVEN A SERIOUS ONE, BUT PEOPLE ARE INDEED TRYING TO UNWIND AND HAVE FUN.
If it's ranked, reports should have massive substance. That way, it promotes good sportsmanship all around, griefer/trolls/toxics get banned straight away, and trolls/flamers/greifers/hackers/scripters/toxic people won't bother to go into Ranked to grief, flame or troll in an attempt to cheat their way to the top or drag others to the bottom, because the consequences will be too great. This would provide the community with a save haven from trolls and negative attitudes for one, they can go into Ranked when they want to get serious and be kind doing it. A SAFE HAVEN. WE ALL JUST WANT A SAFE HAVEN SO WE DON'T GET BANNED BY THE TERRIBLY-JUDGMENTAL ROBOT OVER TROLLS WITH RENEKTON TEARS.
I want to help this game. I know they're spread out developing new rune/mastery system.
This is important.
Imagine a kid who is highly skilled, owns multiple hundreds of dollars worth of content, who gets in a situation in blinds where he doesn't want to play anymore over toxicity, they vote no on the surrender, skilled kid gets triggered, and now he's the one getting perma-banned or temp-banned over attitude when he just wanted out of the game????
nu-uh. That isn't gonna fly with casual players with a Bachelors' in IT. Frankly, that's asking for a massive DDoS attack. Let alone, the black trail of content-rich accounts sitting in a graveyard as I write. You guys need to give the people back the accounts they lost and give them a place to call "Safe from trolls". There's probably a Russian super-hacker who was a Mastery 7 Yasuo with every skin and Lethality Runes, perma-banned and finding a vulnerability in your network structure right now. Don't say it can't happen. Does anything suspicious ever happen with the Latency on those big servers you guys have at HQ? Probably the darkest and most betrayed souls of the LoL community trying to overload the UDP with packets. Who knows. I get MS spikes all the time, for no inherent reason. I have Xfinity and pay hundreds a month living in the city, east coast. No one can tell me my connection is trash, because it's either up and pulsing 5G, or the whole system is down. One or the other.
This system needs to change to protect the servers of the entire network and the safety of its' employees.
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Make a "Mute All" button. Players who activate the "Mute All" button before the 5:00 minute mark in the real-time game cannot be allowed to be reported by any means except for the "other" option, in which staff takes a look at it. I thought about it long and hard and chose this time, because this is around the time where you get to find out if someone on your team, whom gives the enemy team first blood, either says, "gah, we'll get em next time", or, "WHAT THE FUCK KHA'ZIX WHY DIDNT YOU GANK YOU FUCKING TROLL REPORTED".
Being reported under, "mute all" requires ACTUAL EMPLOYEES, NOT ROBOTS, to look at the game to see if the reported player was intentionally feeding, spam-emoting, etc. If we, as players, disable the "Mute All" button after enabling it once, we are then able to be reported if the need arise. There are toxic people on here reporting people because they don't like being called out in all chat, and I hate having to stop what im doing in the game, just to open up the scoreboard and mute arguing couples. It's garbage. I'd rather have one hot-key button to mute everyone. I'd rather be making the tactical choice to just mute everyone and operate in the game with a lone mind to try and win it, rather than muting one person for 3 seconds, unmuting another, saying "hey, try doing this real quick", mute him, unmute another guy, ask him for something, mute him again if he says something like "no fuck you", muted, mute-unmutemuteunmute, type, muteunmuteunmutemuteunmute-
You see where I'm going? At this rate, You can't ping. You have to talk to the disturbed souls that are the victims of toxicity to remind them that humanity isn't terrible, just to keep their morale up and to keep them from DC'ing, where they get banned...over trolls.
See the toxic cycle?
And at that rate, I've done so much typing and menu-navigating that Im 50 CS behind and the game is lost. Worst part of it all is when i want to leave toxic games and the people do not give up, a classic situation where I just want to be able to remake and leave occurs. I can't. So, what do i do? waste my brain power and the remaining limberness in my fingers for the day, spam-clicking abilities to TRY and carry a team that's doomed from the start? You guys punish this kind of behavior. Giving up. But is it really bad, when an intelligent person knows what the outcome will be, knowing all the logistics of the game and knowing that you can only get so far behind, mathematically speaking, until the odds of victory become too low to even want to lift another finger? Because this is how far it goes sometimes. It's not just whiny babies giving up because they died once. It's people who know the game is over who want to end it and move on. But they can't. So, the vote should be 4 yes to end at 15, 3 yes to end at 20.
I'm tired of getting forced into a corner. I'm not trying to tediously click all 9 of the oh-so-very-small "mute" buttons in every game i ever join to preserve my profile status after stacked bans, which, clearly, are permanently on-record and have no cooldown to go away. I have a mouth. Okay. But no one can tell me that I haven't been working to improve my behavior.
I've been playing games out, co-ordinating with teams, winning straight game-after-game, showing that I can breathe like a peaceful human being and win games with my respective teams, much like the client insists one to do as a tip for winning; to keep calm and breahte.
Look at my wins! I have plenty of wins, which constitutes happy players on my side for actually knowing what I'm doing. I have losses too, sure But who flames in close games that could have been different so easily?
Point is, I'm being punished for TAKING THE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE BLAME, NOT ACTUALLY BEING RESPONSIBLE IN AND OF ITSELF, for ruining the games of, lets say 79 people in total, because the bot issues 1st bans in 3 instances of toxic, then a ban from all chat for 10 games. Then 3 more games of toxic, then a 25-game all-chat restriction. Finally, 2 instances of toxic, then the 2-week ban. 8 games. 79 other people? Meanwhile, I've won dozens of games in a row, been honored for my High KDA in almost every one, and made the game a hell of a time for more than TRIPLE that amount. I've made the game awesome to play for HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, and I'm being banned for not making 79 people happy.
Please. Insert Daffy Duck Dispicable here
The robot isn't discriminating over how many games played, how many had no incidences and how many did. It isn't calculating ratios to give out effective bans for people who are truely toxic at their core. In english, I'm not being recognized for my attempts to be nice and to make the game fun for the larger amount of my history. I'm just getting suspended when people whine to the report bot, in the ONE game out of 20 i play where i get angry over other people whining, complaining, doing terrible in the game for reasons related to greed, etc. Reasons related to greed is big. Greed isn't easy to see. You have to have an eye for it. And when truly greedy people die trying to chase down a kill, they got toxic afterwards. Real nice people will admit their greed.
I get suspended because I shut them up. Because, when i go to shut down a troll, I usually have more than just myself agreeing with me. I'm not an ass hole. I attempt to be a relatable person when the instance comes to be, when I do become toxic. Because, being toxic isn't some kind of first impression that people should permanently become in the minds of others. Being toxic is an instance. We are all toxic sometimes. Mom gets toxic when you play League over cleaning your room. Dad get's toxic when you try to squeeze in a Ranked game over doing the dishes before he gets home. Sisters get toxic when you make them look dumb. Brothers get toxic when you make them look weak. There needs to be human understanding when administering ban restrictions of any kind. If you guys don't want to pay a whole legion of people to Moderate the game, that's understandable, it isn't cost effective, it requires fair and ethical employees to do it, and that might not always be an abundant kind of person to hire. I get it. At least incorporate the "Mute All" option.
If there are people on League who mass-report just to see how many; "Action has been taken against a player you reported" messages they can rack up in a day, that can be stopped with the "Mute All" specifications i included above.
I don't want to be banned for 14 days and writher around like a crying baby.
I'm banned for 14 days.
So how about instead of being forever toxic, I take a stand to be a real Messiah of League and tell you guys what exactly is wrong with the game right now.
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The robot gets more and more sensitive to reports with every stacked ban. I'm getting suspended for instances of my own toxicity, of course when it happens, but incidences that happened sooo long ago. It's trash. Incidences where I play multiple games inbetween and show that I can behave. It is possible for me to behave. Am I going to behave for the group that says, "glhf" before the game starts in all chat, pings only one ping at a time when necessary, asks one another to do things, and accepts if someone says yes or no? Even if we lose?
Yes. Yes, i can behave in those games.
But, can any of us behave in a game NOT ONE I GOT BANNED OVER IN PARTICULAR where two people call, lets say, "mid", but one kid says "dim" and the other "mid", the kid goes, "mid is mine i spelt it right" everyone is like, "wut", game starts, mid laner says things like "I am god" "you are all terrible", goes onto /all chat, says to the other mid laner, "I am better than you", in which i say, "Zed, you steal kills from people at the expense of losing your middle tower, stfu", I call him...what did i say,
A cockslut?
and then he stands still, DC's all game, I don't report him because i believe the kid who had a problem with him first did it for me, and then WHAM, the hammer? Courtesies of the troll who reported me because i defended THE ENEMY MID LANER? THE ENEMY. I DEFENDED THE ENEMY IN ALL CHAT BECAUSE HE WAS GETTING BULLIED BY OUR ALLY MID LANER.
No. No i cannot behave in games like that. I'll defend victims of bullying to the end. And i get banned for that. Maybe I should call Riot and speak about this regarding it is a special circumstance. I'm not a great person, but I'm not a sludge-toxin garbage can like some of these manipulative lying cheats on this game, manipulating the report system to appear as a victim.
Talking in league is what makes it interesting. It's what allows people to know that you're listening. I've been reported for not talking which somehow constitutes griefing, over the hyperintelligent assumption that i was not listening and trolling because i wasn't replying, like wtf. What kind of system is this.
I'm getting banned over being toxic for like, 2 instances at a time, when in SMITE I have yet to be banned over anything and there has been multiple instances. Banning peoples' accounts isn't going to work if 4 years of a robot failing to keep toxicity out hasn't proven that enough.
I don't want to be toxic, my match history clearly shows I want to win players games and to have a good time if I can exact that. When selfish people come onto League, insta-lock an OP character in meta, give an excuse as to why they locked, and continue to say things like "I am god" "I am the best person on this team" when we're in the game, they're asking for a cussing out. I don't care if they're 29, 19, or 9 years old.
If you guys ban because you're thinking about the children, I'd save it. Go ask the ESRB if they rate or moderate videogames based on online experiences and you guys tell me what they tell you.
Get with the times or you'll get left behind. You can upate a client, a meta, a skin, a chroma, an icon, a money system, EVERYTHING....
But if you guys don't fix these major issues regarding the banning system, the suspension system, the in-game communication system, and the REAL reasons why people get on League; to remind themselves that they can be socially acceptable; That big, big, interpersonal system; if you guys don't fix that, then we'll all leave for somewhere that will. Don't make monsters and abominations out of these kids who flare a temper constantly on circumstance. Give them a place in the game to flare when they want to flare (Blind Picks), chill when they want to chill (AR URF, CO-OP VS AI), and compete when they want to compete (RANKED), and you all can best guarantee that the toxic players will suddenly become nice.
It would be like legalizing weed, giving people their perma'd accounts back and giving them chances to TRUELY Behave. NO, DEROGATORRY CUSSING DOES NOT CONSTITUTE TOXIC.
What that would do is neutralize any kind of hatred for Riot. Every troll gets their 1st-ever account back. They get THEIR MONEY, back. People become really happy. I've never been perma-banned. I've never been 14-day-suspended until right now. It sucks, yeah. I transferred words with the toxic sludge-wipe, yeah. And it was all to defend your players that you guys CARE SO MUCH ABOUT. Kind of like how I do. Because these people get on this game to go on a mystical journey into the jungles and lanes and to wage war with foes, all with their own strengths and weaknesses. They all come on to win. I want them all to win. But League is Zero-Sum in the real-time game. I can't make them all happy. It's just a shame when I have to gaze at my five enemies and think, "wow, I'm going to absolutely shred this duo apart, and if I don't, I'll get salty. And if I do, they will.
It just happened to me before i got banned in my Jhin game versus a Draven. I main ADC. Jhin isn't SUPPOSED to win against a Draven because Draven and Tristana are arguably the two best ADC's in the game, and I killed him and his supp and said in all chat, "don't feed me too hard now or bad things will happen".
And it was just- ugh-
Like i could see in his playstyle that he got angry and he full-on charged me. Of course, i killed him again, it was super ez, not trying to brag, but-
Idk. It just felt worrying. To think that if this Draven wanted to report me for saying JUST THAT, that i would have gotten my suspension over that well before i just flamed in my Ezreal match to get the susp.
I did some homework, and saw how you guys have been trying to fix Toxicity in league for 3 years now. Maybe even longer, I saw that old news article.
This could be it, everything mentioned above^. It's clear that many players want a place to be bullies, give it to them. I learned in the 5th grade that people want to be toxic just because of this reason; Life is a zero-sum game, and if you want to flex on your winner status, you can. If you don't like something about someone else, you will. It's just the way it is. We shouldn't be playing this game of manners and etiquette with our words and feelings, on a game where so much violence and logical evaluation is occurring. It's contradicting.
Racism? Toxic. Death Threats? Toxic. Conspiracy to Commit Terrorism? Toxic. Conspiracy to Commit Murder? Toxic. Conspiracy to DDoS? Toxic. Slandering? It's Racism. Intentionally Feeding in Ranked? Toxic. Intentionally Feeding in Blinds? WHATEVER! Disconnected in Ranked? Tisk tisk, just a suspension. FROM RANKED. NOT FROM THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. Connected, but just standing still IN ANY GAME? Toxic. Get suspened? okay. FROM ONLINE. WHAT IF I LIKE YOUR GAME SO MUCH THAT I WANT TO PLAY BOTS? I CANT DO THAT.
"well you shoulda thought about that when bapapapapapapap-"
oh, here we go again.