Alternative to perma bans.

MrFujiSenpai·9/27/2017, 8:27:23 PM·3 votes·444 views

I've got a question, and I'm hoping that it might get explained a bit. I enjoy League, I really do. It's a fun game to play with my friends. My first ban was 2 weeks, with a chat restriction afterwards. That worked fine for me. I focused on playing the game because I couldn't really let my salt out. Fastforward a good couple months to yesterday. I said less things than my 2 week ban, by a lot. This ban I said 3 things, 2 of which were actually offensive. I understand completely. I should get reprimanded. But in my opinion, why not just permanently ban people's ability to use any form of chat? Either in the lobby, or in game to my team or the enemy team, even to my friends list. It escalated from a 2 week ban to a perma ban which I can kind of get, but why not just revoke ALL of my chat. And like I said before, everything League of Legends allows you to speak with. It can't be detrimental to how you play League if they'll give you a chat restriction anyway. Instead of banning me from enjoying and spending money on your game, why not just remove the only way people in League can be toxic? Besides inting and stuff, but if someone's only offense is being toxic and trash talking then shouldn't the punishment be a permanent chat ban since chat doesn't really influence games. Now if people feed on purpose and troll then yeah, that's affecting another person's gameplay and they should be banned from the game. But talking is not required, so if your only offense is toxicity, then you should be stripped permanently of the one thing that allows you to be toxic. The chat. A perma ban people can just make smurfs and be even more toxic because they might feel victimized. But taking away their chat makes it so I don't feel like I've wasted all the money or time I poured into this game, I still get to play with all my stuff, but I can't act out again.

I hope this is considered. It was a bit of a mess to write since it was all off the top of my head. But I believe this is a better alternative for toxic based bans, rather than gameplay based bans. It'd be nice if I could get a Riot employee to explain why permanent chat bans aren't a thing.

11 Comments

Sundling9/27/2017, 8:29:49 PM3 votes

Totally agree with you

Silent Gravity9/27/2017, 9:32:52 PM2 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/wsObUaFj-if-tyler1?comment=00010001000000000000

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It really breaks down into two categories.

1.) Helping players reform 2.) Shielding others from the behavior, at a cost.

We used to issue chat restrictions that essentially scaled indefinitely.

We were able to determine that after a certain point the penalty no longer helped with reform. The 10-game and 25-game counts for chat restrictions are based on data that they were both light enough, and felt strict enough to encourage people to understand their behavior is unacceptable in game and change it.

We also saw that the players in this 'large restriction' category defaulted to gameplay altering means of harassing their team. It caused an increase in feeding and trolling.

The sample size of this population and time frame is huge. Essentially the time spanning from the introduction of chat restrictions to the introduction of IFS.

So my question for you is, would you rather have more feeders and less negative chat?

nerak239/27/2017, 9:46:47 PM2 votes

Instead of banning me from enjoying and spending money on your game, why not just remove the only way people in League can be toxic?

Because Chat is Not the only way one can be toxic in the game.

Scuffleboard9/27/2017, 10:08:21 PM1 votes

Chat permabans have been tried in the past and not worked- people have instead just int fed or griefed.

MrFujiSenpai9/27/2017, 10:30:42 PM1 votes

I understand it doesn't work for everyone, and if you do something like intentionally feeding or trolling you should get permanently banned. But like me, my only offense ever was due to the chat. If you start doing other forms of toxic behavior then yeah, you deserve a gameplay ban. But that's like locking someone up because they might escalate to worse things. Deal with them after they do an increased form of poor behavior.

General Esdeath 9/28/2017, 3:50:33 AM1 votes

They need to pin a post at the top that you're forced to read with this story because I've told at least a dozen people that RIOT TRIED THIS AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

nerak2310/5/2017, 8:22:24 PM1 votes

Why does that mean we shouldn't punish it? It's like saying "but there's always going to be murderers so lets not throw them in jail when we catch them".

Riot should punish and quick, but most importantly say "why".

We need to as a community without a clear leader to Say " We will protect our game".

Riot will adhere to what the players want, mostly I find people play the game to have fun !