Be Honest Riot

DirgeofSlaanesh·Feb 24, 2016·6 votes·1,108 views

Are we ever going to get tribunal up and running? If so, when?

13 Comments

RedTaoFeb 24, 20163 votes

As soon as they figure out how Blizzard took all the things us players complained to Riot for and made their game better.

LoL player: Mastering a champion doesn't give us anything Blizzard: Give them a free skin and 2 other color schemes for the champion they're mastering! LoL player: AFKers ruin my matches. Blizzard: Make decent playing bots take that character over and fight for you! Even if player comes back, THEY GET NO POINTS! LoL player: Matches last too long Blizzard: Add stuff that'll blow the crap out of towers/inhibs if you can beat other team to it! LoL player: I keep falling behind in levels Blizzard: Share all the exp gained with all players on their team! LoL player: this person keeps KSing me Blizzard: We addressed this in the last question! LoL player: It's the same Item builds over and over again. Nothing changes Blizzard: Fk gold and items. We'll give you skill points to make abilities you have even better in a unique way each time. LoL player: Players are Verbally abusive Blizzard: We'll keep muting them until no longer able to speak for the next year if they keep doing it. LoL player: Im afraid I'll get banned for being X reason Blizzard: Fk banning the players. Keep them muted them as long as they're talking like jerks.

Just go play Heroes of the Storm. They take all the things we say to make LoL better and actually use them to make their game better. Best part is, you actually get free stuff for your champions just for playing the game.

Dominick DestineFeb 24, 20162 votes

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As soon as they figure out how Blizzard took all the things us players complained to Riot for and made their game better.

LoL player: Mastering a champion doesn't give us anything Blizzard: Give them a free skin and 2 other color schemes for the champion they're mastering! LoL player: AFKers ruin my matches. Blizzard: Make decent playing bots take that character over and fight for you! Even if player comes back, THEY GET NO POINTS! LoL player: Matches last too long Blizzard: Add stuff that'll blow the crap out of towers/inhibs if you can beat other team to it! LoL player: I keep falling behind in levels Blizzard: Share all the exp gained with all players on their team! LoL player: this person keeps KSing me Blizzard: We addressed this in the last question! LoL player: It's the same Item builds over and over again. Nothing changes Blizzard: Fk gold and items. We'll give you skill points to make abilities you have even better in a unique way each time. LoL player: Players are Verbally abusive Blizzard: We'll keep muting them until no longer able to speak for the next year if they keep doing it. LoL player: Im afraid I'll get banned for being X reason Blizzard: Fk banning the players. Keep them muted them as long as they're talking like jerks.

Just go play Heroes of the Storm. They take all the things we say to make LoL better and actually use them to make their game better. Best part is, you actually get free stuff for your champions just for playing the game.

So Blizzard does all of that.... and their game is still nowhere near beating LoL.

Maybe there's a reason for that.

RedTaoFeb 24, 20162 votes

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So Blizzard does all of that.... and their game is still nowhere near beating LoL.

Maybe there's a reason for that.

League of Legends came out October 27, 2009
Heroes of the Storm came out June 2, 2015

HotS has only been out for half a year and it already fixed all the things LoL players have been asking Riot to do for years. It's like they look at LoLs Boards and find out what players want to see in a Moba game. Hmmmmm

Dominick DestineFeb 24, 20161 votes

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League of Legends came out October 27, 2009
Heroes of the Storm came out June 2, 2015

What's your point?

Maybe try that same argument with Dota 2, Smite, HoN, Strife or any myriad "LoL killer" that has floundered.

RedTaoFeb 24, 20162 votes

When you play the numbers game, time is always a factor. If I played those other Mobas I could perhaps do another comparison between those games and others. In the meantime, the only games I played are LoL and HotS. Only played HotS for 2 weeks and these changes were evident almost from the beginning. They're wonderful! If you played it a few times you'd see that Blizzard genuinely wants the game to be as enjoyable as possible. The only thing I could complain about is that you still get the occasional toxic player. Even then you dont see said person as often as you do in league. Just give it a few plays. I've had a great time playing it. The most enjoyable thing I found is that they fixed the issue that you have with players.

You dont even have to look up meta's with it. It has none. You can just pick whatever champ you feel like playing and you'd do fine regardless of who you picked.
AFKs/disconnects are never an issue because the bots take over.
The mute option is available as well and you dont have to worry about getting banned for saying certain words, you just get a mute time if you're out of hand. There's even an all mute button available at the start of the match that way, if you dont feel like talking to anyone: Click. One button.
Feeding isn't an issue because objectives are more important than exp most of the game.
You never have to worry about KSing or falling behind because the gains you get from killing someone (Or just being near killed creeps) gives everyone the xp.
You never have to go back to base to buy things because there's nothing to buy. They replaced items with talents that inhance your abilities and new abilities, you can use get these upgrades right as soon as it's available. There's almost no reason to leave the front lines unless you need to heal, even then there are things with healing abilities on the front lines so you don't have to go back to base if you think you can hold out until the heal is recharged. The list just keeps going. And these are just things I've seen players here complaining about for the longest of times. Other than the occasional verbal exchange, there's almost nothing I can find to complain about this game. Not to say there's nothing wrong, but problems with this game are just not obvious.

Dominick DestineFeb 24, 20161 votes

Skimmed your post, since you failed to address even a single one of my arguments, I have no reason to read your comment to completion, gg.

Titan SenpaiFeb 24, 20161 votes

Dota 2 hasn't floundered at all, in fact they had a 16 million dollar prize pool for the last big season.

And Heroes of the Storm floundered mainly because Blizzard kicked it aside for their newest game along with it being even simpler play than LoL. Not to mention so many people play LoL, they don't bother looking for another MOBA as the queue times will never be as quick (except Dota 2).

HoN is just a worthless Dota Clone that never made it past copy-pasting heroes from DotA.

Smite in fact has it's own following on Twitch and has their own tournaments every year.

League of Legends simply has seniority.

BTW, Nice attitude though, really shows your care for anyone else's views. [/sarcasm]

Dominick DestineFeb 24, 20161 votes

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Dota 2 hasn't floundered at all, in fact they had a 16 million dollar prize pool for the last big season.

Dota 2 was heralded as a LoL killer... it is not even at 30% of LoLs success.

Good try though.

And Heroes of the Storm floundered mainly because

Because nothing. It floundered, period.

It was another game heralded as a "LoL killer" that only succeeded in adding to the pile of bodies that hilariously attempted to take down LoL.

HoN is just a worthless Dota Clone that never made it past copy-pasting heroes from DotA.

False.

HoN was neck-to-neck with LoL during their beta and still after release. HoN was not a 'clone' because it was built from the ground up as a true successor to DotA. It was the "Real" DotA 2 ... where even Icefrog himself worked on the project, giving it his blessing.

Icefrog betrayed S2 games and left to work with Valve because $$$... in any case HoN was superior to LoL and early DotA 2 , implementing mechanics like vector targeting, vision restriction and modifiable terrain long before the competition did.

It floundered hard because it eventually became all about $$$ which destroyed its player base.

Smite in fact has it's own following on Twitch and has their own tournaments every year.

Yes. A following that is less than 8% of what LoL has.

How impressive for what was oft-called "LoL killer" prior to failing miserably.

League of Legends simply has seniority.

HoN was before LoL. Dota 2 was not released that long after LoL either. Aeon of Strife (both versions) and DotA technically have greater seniority.

Your argument is garbage. You were decimated very easily.

RedTaoFeb 24, 20162 votes

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Skimmed your post, since you failed to address even a single one of my arguments, I have no reason to read your comment to completion, gg.

Blizzard never had tribunal system, the probably will never get one because one isn't needed. They dont ban players who talk crap because they can just mute them. The more they do it, the more times the mute time is mulitplied. Cant talk nice? Dont talk at all. What are they going to do? Go afk? Fixed that. Feed enemy team? Fixed that too.

Titan SenpaiFeb 24, 20161 votes

I give up, this dominick guy is just an uptight jackoff that's extremely ignorant and believes LoL is all that is holy and all others are to be ignored despite him never playing any of them considering he thinks Dota 2 was released shortly after LoL (btw, it was released 2013 and LoL was 2009).

Idiots like this aren't going to contribute to a conversation except calling anyone else's point of view "garbage" with his "Go fuck yourself" attitude. Like you said RedTao, can't talk nice? Don't talk at all.

RedTaoFeb 25, 20161 votes

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I give up, this dominick guy is just an uptight jackoff that's extremely ignorant and believes LoL is all that is holy and all others are to be ignored despite him never playing any of them considering he thinks Dota 2 was released shortly after LoL (btw, it was released 2013 and LoL was 2009).

Idiots like this aren't going to contribute to a conversation except calling anyone else's point of view "garbage" with his "Go fuck yourself" attitude. Like you said RedTao, can't talk nice? Don't talk at all.

Considering he says "You didnt address any of my arguements" when he only made one, I'd say he had no intention to be receptive to anything to begin with. He's never played the game so he's falling back to numbers you can pull off google.

If LoL is the holy grail of Moba's, then play the other ones and give comparisons. I've only played one other one, HotS, and I gave my comparison. It takes all the things that make LoL fun and fixes the things we dont like about LoL. That's the observation I can make because I actually played them both. Honestly though, just from what I've seen, Blizzard really does look like they get all their ideas from the boards here. No joke I was expecting all the things wrong with LoL to be there but they fixed them all. Even better, they've taken most of the things toxic players can do to ruin your game and made it so you cant do them. I love this about them. If Riot could invest the same effort that Blizzard did to take away the power from Toxic players, rather than putting up with them for the 30-60 minutes you have to wait for match to end, then I could actually start liking LoL again.

As it stands though, Toxic players just have too much power here. You could report them sure, but until then they control you and your game. Blizzard took a look at what toxic players do and started taking all the things they do to make your game miserable and made it so that even if they do it, the game can carry of fine without them. THAT's why Blizzard has no Tribunal system. Because the toxic players are being dealt with IN THE GAME, not after the game is done.