No 25 game chat restriction?

UnfathomableWin·Oct 9, 2016·3 votes·936 views

After egregious toxicity I expected to go from what was a previous 10 game chat restriction that I had reformed from (was eligible for loot again etc), to a 25 CR, and am instead met this morning with a permanent suspension.

Elaboration?

While I was pissed, and did drag out an argument from champ select (Was called a "n****r" by the friendly neighborhood ignite/heal first time intentional feeder Riven in said champ select) I feel like a step was missed here in the process.

Also why are the champ select logs not included in the punishment scorecards?

15 Comments

Deep Terror NamiOct 9, 20165 votes

I'm going to make a wild guess and say you repeated this other player's racial slurs? You should post your reform card so we can determine what may have caused the skip in punishment tiers.

UnfathomableWinOct 9, 20161 votes

UnfathomableWin: riven UnfathomableWin: dont play ranked anymore kid UnfathomableWin: kys UnfathomableWin: lmfao UnfathomableWin: report him please UnfathomableWin: yas UnfathomableWin: you paying attention fam UnfathomableWin: "gonna feed if I adc" UnfathomableWin: fam you gonna feed no matter what UnfathomableWin: this scrub UnfathomableWin: just keeps feeding UnfathomableWin: yas do you pay attention fam? UnfathomableWin: this is the second time he's been @ mid and you are late UnfathomableWin: yi was already @ mid fam UnfathomableWin: he has been both times I've gone UnfathomableWin: fam you've literally UnfathomableWin: screwed your jg UnfathomableWin: every time I've come to gank UnfathomableWin: you stand bck and let me get fucked UnfathomableWin: then you die anyway UnfathomableWin: "dont want to fight" UnfathomableWin: less than 30 at this point UnfathomableWin: plz report her for inting UnfathomableWin: ... UnfathomableWin: did you just take my red UnfathomableWin: you et me die when I gank and you take my buffs? UnfathomableWin: lol UnfathomableWin: gj fam UnfathomableWin: that red UnfathomableWin: was UnfathomableWin: mine UnfathomableWin: ok UnfathomableWin: %%%got UnfathomableWin: dont touch my buffs UnfathomableWin: you fucking piece of shit UnfathomableWin: just /ff and move on to the next game UnfathomableWin: ... UnfathomableWin: why wouldn't you ff UnfathomableWin: with riven and yas feeding UnfathomableWin: they're both inting so I mean UnfathomableWin: 3 people want to keep playing this UnfathomableWin: ok UnfathomableWin: gj yas, you get that scuttle crab UnfathomableWin: mmh UnfathomableWin: ya UnfathomableWin: Lol jinx idk why you keep forcing us to play this game UnfathomableWin: if riven and yas, our only engage are feeding UnfathomableWin: wtf is the point in continuing this game UnfathomableWin: ff and move on to the next one UnfathomableWin: listen %%%got I've got the same amount of deaths as you UnfathomableWin: and I've been afking UnfathomableWin: lol UnfathomableWin: because this game is over UnfathomableWin: their teamfight is better than ours UnfathomableWin: because they're fed UnfathomableWin: thanks jinx UnfathomableWin: you use that chat UnfathomableWin: while yi fighting me UnfathomableWin: thanks for wasting time UnfathomableWin: so that we could lose anyway UnfathomableWin: gj kys %%%s

UnfathomableWinOct 9, 20161 votes

Once again I didn't say I wasn't toxic, and while according to the TOS I don't have a right to defend myself in any way shape or form, after being called a "n****r" in champ select I do have a right to be livid considering I'm Mulatto.

AstôlfoOct 9, 20163 votes

You're free to be mad. You are not free to take out said anger on others, no matter what they do. Actually, correction. You are free to do so. But you will not be free from the consequences thereafter.

SmokedAlmondsOct 9, 20161 votes

Right to be upset? sure. Your behavior while upset though was completely unacceptable. You just became exactly what you were mad about, a bigot. You weren't defending yourself. You were attacking someone. While that may have been in retaliation, that doesn't make it excusable.

404 TerrorOct 9, 20161 votes

Learn the mute button in-game, and in champ select just scroll your chat window bar up so you can't read new chat messages.

Ignorance is bliss! You don't need to start a keyboard war every time someone trolls you or insults you. Just enjoy the game the way it's meant to be.

SmokedAlmondsOct 9, 20164 votes

Hate speech and telling people to kill themselves pretty much sealed your fate.

Deep Terror NamiOct 9, 20161 votes

Ah I see. Their extremely poor behavior does not excuse your own. Homophobic and racial slurs and telling people to kill themselves are exactly the extreme toxic behavior that results in being permanently banned for one offense.

That other player will have to deal with the consequences of their actions, and you for yours.

Alpha SamsuniOct 9, 20161 votes

That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

AstôlfoOct 9, 20164 votes

uses homophobic category hate speech tells people to kill themselves is continuously rude and harassing towards teammates throughout almost entire chatlog questions the permaban

??????????

SarutobiOct 9, 20162 votes

Would be nice to see some chatlogs!

Reket DeAlkOct 9, 20161 votes

If what you said/did was bad enough you can skip tiers. Stuff like hate speech, death threats, etc are examples.

Feel free to post your chat logs if you need help identifying what you did wrong.

And pre/post game chat is stored and can be manually viewed by Riot but you need to include that in the comment section when you report people.

UnfathomableWinOct 9, 20161 votes

I did include "pregame champ select racism" in the comment section of my report against riven.

Reket DeAlkOct 9, 20161 votes

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I did include "pregame champ select racism" in the comment section of my report against riven.

Then it can be looked at by Riot.

This is however a pretty solid deserved ban. While what the Riven said was really bad (and will most likely escalate them as well) that doesn't excuse anything you said.

SmokedAlmondsOct 9, 20161 votes

The steps are generally for minor chat offenses. So depending on what you said you could have been escalated higher. If you post you chat logs that can better be answered.

They do have chat logs for pre/post game. I am not sure why the instant feedback system doesn't automatically use them but it doesn't. If you leave in the description that they were a problem in pre/post game chat it can be used in a manual review. Realistically though most people who are a problem in pre/post game are also a problem in game so I never really viewed this as significant.