A message to the "Retaliaters."

RaptorKarr··11 votes·1,211 views

Why? Okay yes Retaliation is okay in real life BUT only under special cases.

Let me share a story with you something that happened to me quite recently actually.

Okay so me and my friend went out to a bar, she drinks I don't and she needed someone get her home that's irrelevant though. So we go to this a bar the bar she usually goes to it's got a nice atmosphere people are very rarely at each other's throats and the two bartenders are super nice. Though tonight we seemed to have gotten a little unlucky in which there was an a**hole there who has a history with my friend and not a good one, however we figured that since I was with her he would leave her alone, bullies aren't tough when other people are around, however get certain people drunk enough and they will think that they are freaking Superman. Over the coarse of about an hour or so he started to get pretty drunk and begin making ehhhh not so nice comments towards my friend and myself mostly to me though because he knew it would annoy her more if he was picking on me rather then her. Anyway he's making comments and the bartenders have told him a few times to stop or leave but telling him to stop made him get even worse. I wanted to rip the guy's tongue out and then castrate him but i'm better then then, my friend would have lost it if I wasn't there to help keep her cool, I just sat there ignoring him after about fifteen or so minutes of this me and my friend decided to just leave. He was not happy with that decision so as we were leaving he swung at me, he missed I grabbed by the neck and smashed his face in on a table, broke his nose and knocked him out. Turns out however across from where I knocked the guy out a cop was sitting there and saw the whole thing from the time we walked in to the time we were going to leave, however because I acted in self defense I was able to leave the bar with no problem. However had I been arguing in the bar the entire time and started a fight I would have.

  1. Made the entire situation so much worse and the experience for the other patrons much worse as well.
  2. Would have gotten myself and my friend in a fight.
  3. Would have gone to jail for assault.

My point is while Retaliation is okay in some instances in real life, most of the time it's not and just makes the situation that much worse. However League of Legends is a video game and Retaliation in a video game is NEVER okay you're only going to get your self in trouble but you're also making the experience for the eight other players in the match so much worse. Yes there is a mute button and they can ignore you and the person(s) you're fighting with, but because of that you had just giving everyone in the room another reason to report you as well as the a**hole that started it so now you have also just gotten you're self in trouble as well and was that really worth it?

Next time you're going to try and retaliate think for a second is this person really worth getting banned over? The answer is no, no they are not worth it.

23 Comments

xReadyPlayerOnex3 votes

Screw you and the horse you road in on.

RaptorKarr10 votes

I call her Princess Sparkles :3

qetzel1 votes

This is one of the best comments I have ever seen.

On another note, I agree with your post. In the future, may I suggest breaking large paragraphs into smaller ones. It would make them easier to read.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Mine is Butt Stallion.

Samus722 votes

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Why? Okay yes Retaliation is okay in real life BUT only under special cases.

It is NOT. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "Two wrongs do not make a right?"

So, unless you plan on starring in an action hero flick, remove that way of thinking from your brain.

nShRl4OImK1 votes

Must not know what the military is.

Samus721 votes

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Must not know what the military is.

Retaliation is not the military's primary duty.

nShRl4OImK1 votes

Do not shoot unless fired upon?

I think that's called retaliation.

TrulyBland1 votes

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Do not shoot unless fired upon?

I think that's called retaliation.

I think that's called defending yourself. Retaliation would be launching an attack after having been attacked. Admittedly, with military the lines become kinda blurry, since a lot of the "self-defense" is preemptive.

nShRl4OImK2 votes

no...specifically stated in the CoC it states it as retaliation and is not authorized until the threat + intent is purely realized; meaning you are fired upon.

Though I don't know why you'd try to argue the technicality in to dodge a point being made....I was just putting out a smart ass response. I personally believe if you're being harassed you shouldn't just sit there and take it, but there's also a thing called muting which Riot doesn't seem to advertise as much as reporting and punishment of players being toxic.

TrulyBland1 votes

I stand corrected... Thanks. As a non-native speaker I'm always happy to learn more about context-sensitive words.

nShRl4OImK2 votes

Always happy to assist and i'm glad this didn't turn in to a pointless argument like how most people on the forums like to just play devil's advocate...for no reason.

TrulyBland2 votes

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It is NOT. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "Two wrongs do not make a right?"

So, unless you plan on starring in an action hero flick, remove that way of thinking from your brain.

Well, OP's choice of words might have been odd... but these special cases he's looking at are essentially not something people would call "retaliation", but rather "self defense". Funny thing being that most of the time I see people confuse these two terms, it's the other way around á la "But I had to call him an asshole, I was defending myself".

Samus721 votes

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Well, OP's choice of words might have been odd... but these special cases he's looking at are essentially not something people would call "retaliation", but rather "self defense". Funny thing being that most of the time I see people confuse these two terms, it's the other way around á la "But I had to call him an asshole, I was defending myself".

Riot will punish a retaliator as much as they will the instigator.

TrulyBland2 votes

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Riot will punish a retaliator as much as they will the instigator.

Exactly. Because nothing in LoL can actually be seen as self defense.

Or in OP's words:

My point is while Retaliation is okay in some instances in real life, most of the time it's not and just makes the situation that much worse. However League of Legends is a video game and Retaliation in a video game is NEVER okay you're only going to get your self in trouble but you're also making the experience for the eight other players in the match so much worse.

This is really just semantics. OP, you, me, we're all on the same page here. (You and me slightly more, since we also agree about the semantic part)

Trídent4 votes

That's really flawed. So if some guy walks over to you and starts punching you, you just sit there and do nothing?

TrulyBland5 votes

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That's really flawed. So if some guy walks over to you and starts punching you, you just sit there and do nothing?

They'd probably defend himself. What they wouldn't do would be at a later point going to the guy's house and start punching him. Retaliation =/= Self defense Self Defense: Do everything to protect yourself in a situation of danger. Retaliation: An eye for an eye; they hurt you, you hurt them. Can be in that situation, can be later, but the motivation for this action is revenge.

People confuse these terms way too much.

Trídent4 votes

Yeah, I confused them, thought self-defense fell under the category of retaliation. Thanks for clarifying.

Samus721 votes

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That's really flawed. So if some guy walks over to you and starts punching you, you just sit there and do nothing?

Situational. If someone walks up to me and begins throwing punches, they have committed assault. In the real world, that is against the law.

Within the confines of the game, Riot is the law. And Riot's law says that if you break the rules, even in retaliation, you can be punished as well. The how's and why's are irrelevant.

However you justify it, if Riot decides to take action against you, all your attempted legal excuses will fall on deaf ears.

DeynaTaggerung1 votes

I like to compare it to "But mom, he started it!"

Also +1 for the badass story

PIMPSMOOTH1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

lolptwo1 votes

No offence but this was quite clearly a self glamour post, it's ok though, but to be frank you didn't make a very compelling case to not retaliate. I think anyone here would be happy to let some rage at them in League if they got to smash their head off a table and get away with it.

E for Effort though

GamblerOfLives1 votes

"stick and stones may hurt my bones, but words will never hurt me"-love this saying ,my american friend:)

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