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Perma Ban. I can change

Barad Dur··2 votes·1,652 views

I have been told that telling someone you are going to report them is reportable, so why is it that someone on my team could not take sarcasm tells my entire team and my enemy team to report me and they agree that it results in me being perma banned. I have spent quite a bit of money on this account only to be banned permanently because someone cant take shit over the internet. How about you stop teaching your players its ok to get someone perma banned for no reason. I didnt hurt anyones feelings if you look at the chat history you can see they were worse talking to me than i was the entire game. How about you review the game before you just throw out perma bans. I can not believe how ridiculous the system has gotten ive been playing for only 3-4 years and was never banned or chat restricted then all of a sudden within a month of playing i get a god damn perma ban. You are a sad company riot. I wont shit talk anymore if i can get a repeal, i troll but i dont cause losses. The game i was banned for i was playing kench i easily could have been an actual dick and trolled but i didnt i tried. I want a repeal only for the reason i have spent money on this account and this account only and i have had it for 4 years without ever being banned. I come back and get reported once after a month of not being able to play and get insta perma banned. I want someone from RIOT to respond to this as every other time i never actually got support on issues from the team itself and this is a more serious topic of me losing a lot of money because someone thinks its funny to tell both teams to report someone.

58 Comments

Deep Terror Nami12 votes

You do not get punished based on the number of reports received, but on the behavior the review finds. If you do nothing wrong then all their reports will mean nothing and they will lose weight in their future reports.

A permaban is the 4th and final step of escalating punishments. To receive one, your behavior must be either severe (such as using hate speech or telling people to kill themselves) to skip punishment tiers, or be consistently negative across many games and moving up each step of punishment one at a time.

If you want to discuss the validity of your punishment or are seeking tips on reforming your behavior, I suggest posting your reform card with the chat logs you should've received if this was from the Instant Feedback System for chat offenses. If you only wish to appeal your ban through Riot or you didn't receive any reason for your ban, you will need to submit a Support Ticket.

Weathered6 votes

Out of curiosity how many different resposes do you have stocked up in a text document? It has to get old explaining this to people.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

One, and it's for connection issues on the H&S board.

ModWulf Helhammer9 votes

Chat logs.

And you had to have been punished 3 times previously for it to be a permaban

Barad Dur1 votes

Game 1 Barad Dur: its aight Barad Dur: ty Barad Dur: will do Barad Dur: hehehe Barad Dur: ima be tanky af Barad Dur: to be fair yas is being countered Barad Dur: yea mb man didnt see Barad Dur: i come top Barad Dur: pls play safe yas Barad Dur: ez Barad Dur: np babe Barad Dur: thresh dc lmao, you garbage Barad Dur: varus? Barad Dur: you blind? Barad Dur: i warded it specifically do you would see them and come help Barad Dur: useless adc we have Barad Dur: i keep the support off you and you cant even 2v1 ashe Barad Dur: no suprise there Barad Dur: mb man Barad Dur: this yas isnt bad he just got outpicked Barad Dur: rumble is gay af Barad Dur: varus pls Barad Dur: ty Barad Dur: why you fight when low lol Barad Dur: 3v1 Barad Dur: no mias Barad Dur: at all Barad Dur: im stupid? Barad Dur: let me pull out my xray goggles and hacks to see 2 more team mates coming while i rape your adc Barad Dur: stfu trash Barad Dur: ok kid Barad Dur: i can 1v1 anyone on your team Barad Dur: get fucked noobs Barad Dur: no thank me for baiting your thirsty asses Barad Dur: all of you wanted to kill me Barad Dur: and got raped Barad Dur: you are terrible at shit talking Barad Dur: thresh no Barad Dur: just because we die doesnt mean you suicide to Barad Dur: thanks team Barad Dur: fucking idiots Barad Dur: gg thanks to you failing at everything league Barad Dur: i pinged 5 times i was ulting Barad Dur: and none of you reacted Barad Dur: your fault Barad Dur: you were at tower Barad Dur: 30 feet away Barad Dur: moron Barad Dur: lol Barad Dur: we just not going to group today yas> Barad Dur: saved the day Barad Dur: once agab Barad Dur: drag or baron Barad Dur: weird Barad Dur: took you long enough Barad Dur: once again Barad Dur: i tank 3 enemies Barad Dur: team is nowhere Barad Dur: you dont do damage buddy Barad Dur: i need damage Barad Dur: LMAO Barad Dur: ty team Barad Dur: about time Barad Dur: brand Barad Dur: ult? Barad Dur: hello Barad Dur: hopeless Barad Dur: thresh Barad Dur: you are muted Barad Dur: cant handle you Barad Dur: probably not homie Barad Dur: because if you cant see that im not serious you need to reevaluate your psychy Barad Dur: now thats reportable Barad Dur: unsportsmanlike Barad Dur: kinda is Barad Dur: you are making fun of him Barad Dur: thats bullying Barad Dur: if you want to be technical Barad Dur: stop taking what i say so seriously Barad Dur: butthurt baby Barad Dur: 7 inches actually Barad Dur: pretty thick as well Barad Dur: i was deleted? Barad Dur: looked to me like the whole team was attacking me Barad Dur: ggwp

I wish i could show you the amount of shit talk our thresh was giving yas when i was trying to tell him hes diong fine. I was being positive but this thresh just pushed my buttons. I should have muted him i know but i shouldnt be banned without him having the same punishment.

S0kaX3 votes

"you garbage" ; "useless adc" ; "stfu trash" ; "get fucked noobs" ; "fucking idiots", want more examples of why you got banned and you don't have the right to whine?

Barad Dur1 votes

Get the thresh from that game to post his chat logs and see how he hasnt been banned, thats my whole point and i was more positive then i was negative that game.

Astôlfo5 votes

That's irrelevant. Other people being toxic doesn't make you less toxic. And how do you know he's not banned?

DrCyanide9 votes

How about you stop teaching your players its ok to get someone perma banned for no reason.

They verify the reports before taking action.

tells my entire team and my enemy team to report me and they agree that it results in me being perma banned.

Reports only flag the review system, it doesn't matter if there was 1 report or 9.

they were worse talking to me than i was the entire game.

You're still responsible for how you act, and you only get punished for how you act.

You've got to have something else going on than what you've said. Either you went way outside the bounds of what's acceptable in chat, resulting in you skipping punishment tiers, or there's something else going on.

Barad Dur1 votes

IDK what i did i wasnt being serious with them but they were to me. I cant say a fucking curse word in this game wihout some 14 year old reporting me. My reports have only resulted in one person being punished when a LOT more of them should have been.

DrCyanide2 votes

The "they got punished" notification only comes up if the game you reported them in was the last straw before they got punished. There's leeway built into the system, it doesn't typically drop the hammer on the first offense.

Barad Dur1 votes

Did not know that

TequilaZombie2 votes

You can curse at will. I make rape jokes, I made my fair share of 9/11 jokes, I curse like drunken sailor, and yet has never been even chat banned.

You know the difference?

"all of you wanted to kill me and got raped" "fucking idiots" "get fucked noobs" "rumble is gay af"

This is actually punishable.

Don't hide behind sarcasm. Everyone with half a functioning brain knows that you can't fucking tell sarcasm apart from regular speech over text. Specially in a motherfucking game in which everyone and their dogs rage at each other.

Barad Dur1 votes

I verbally told them i was joking, but because its funny to them they all reported me anyways. It is not a fair chance to me to be perma banned for joking.

Sarutobi2 votes

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I verbally told them i was joking, but because its funny to them they all reported me anyways. It is not a fair chance to me to be perma banned for joking.

So just to be clear by your logic all people need to do is say/type they are joking and they are allowed to spew any type of racist/homophobic/hateful speech, but its ok because i wrote that everything is a joke. That is such a flawed logic, this whole topic is giving me a headache. A lot of what you wrote is just like a child throwing a tantrum when they arent given what they want.

The fact of the matter is you broke the rules (numerous times) this wasnt an insta-permaban. Stop saying it is because thats not how this works. Let alone the fact that just because they give you one chatlogs doesnt mean its the only evidence against you. If you want more reported incidents by all means contact support. You had numerous chances to change, and yet didnt do anything till you actually lost something. By all means make a new account and show that way that you changed for the better. It wont get your account (at least not any time soon) but you can atleast prove you are true to your word.

Barad Dur1 votes

Will do, maybe they will look at my behavior on my other account in month or two and reconsider my plea.

Radnar the bold2 votes

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Will do, maybe they will look at my behavior on my other account in month or two and reconsider my plea.

Doubt it, they don't revok perma bans. Just try to be a better you that you can on your new account.

TequilaZombie3 votes

Player 1: I wish you watch you mother die raped by ravenous wolves. Player 2: Reporting Player 1 Player 1: It's only a joke, chill.

It doesn't really work, does it?

Barad Dur1 votes

Lol i thought it was funny

MagicFlyingLlama6 votes

Lol.

First, 9 people reporting you has **_identical effect _**to one person reporting you - it is entirely decided by your behavior. You cannot get banned without the system finding proof of misconduct, and permbans are not given out by the automatic system: a riot employee has to look at the case.

I think you did something pretty dumb and intolerable to get reported by 9 people. The idea is you "change" before you get permbanned, banning is reserved for arrogant trash or ragebaby that is incapable of reform.

Despite what donald trump teaches, spending money does not put you outside the rules.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Actually, you can be banned by the automated system, but only permabans earned through repetitive offense. Punishments that skip tiers are always done through manual review though

Radnar the bold5 votes

You call riot a sad company, then want that same sad company to unban you? Yes, you clearly have learned your lesson.

Barad Dur1 votes

Even pro players call them sad, the system of people getting banned for shit talking? Yea thats pretty sad its a fucking video game get your crybaby ass to another game if you cant handle being told you are bad. Never had my feelings hurt i just laugh and keep playing or see how mad i can make the shit talker.

Radnar the bold4 votes

"Even pro players call them sad, the system of people getting banned for shit talking?" What proof do you have of this?

"Yea thats pretty sad its a fucking video game get your crybaby ass to another game if you cant handle being told you are bad." Then go play a different video game where you can talk shit. Sorry league tries to reinforce a positive community

"see how mad i can make the shit talker" I really wonder why you got banned.

Barad Dur1 votes

watch any ex-pro or current pro player stream they will talk about the sphagetti code of a multi billion dollar company. Smaller teams come out with better games in less time than riot has in 10 years.

Radnar the bold2 votes

All I ask if for one link or one source to back that up. I really don't like claims that have no support, but just a "go do x and you will see!"

Also what games? and if they are great, then go play those.

Barad Dur1 votes

they were live streams, if you cant understand that after me telling you 3 times i dont know what to tell you...

FurriesAreHot1 votes

Lol riot spaghetti code has been a joke forever

Jo0o4 votes

Assuming you've been punished before, it's pretty dicey to say stuff like "get fucked noobs". It's not sporting, and you were already on thin ice. Also, while a pejorative use of the word "gay" probably isn't considered as bad as calling somebody a f----t, it's still fairly homophobic and could easily trigger some punishment. It's 2016, find a better way to insult people.

Barad Dur1 votes

I was saying rumble is gay because our yas was losing to him and i know how much of a pain in the ass he is. It was me trying to give our yas some positive treatment because my team was treating him like shit because he was feeding. I am not a homophobe and using the word gay to describe a champion hurts your feelings then the problem is you.

Radnar the bold3 votes

"I am not a homophobe and using the word gay to describe a champion hurts your feelings then the problem is you" That doesn't make sense what so ever. Your logic is, I'm not hating on gays, but I'm going to use a word for a homosexual in a negative way? I feel like the you speak, the more I see why you got banned.

Barad Dur1 votes

I hate the internet so fucking much, I have gay friends, i can also say my cousin is black so im not racist but that means nothing. I used the word gay so fucking what? I didnt mean it in a bad way towards gay people.

Radnar the bold4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Barad Dur,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3WGc5REL,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T19:41:02.793+0000)

I hate the internet so fucking much, I have gay friends, i can also say my cousin is black so im not racist but that means nothing. I used the word gay so fucking what? I didnt mean it in a bad way towards gay people.

OMG are you that daft? Do you say the N word cause you have black friends? FUCK NO. What if I said wow that moron is such a Barad Dur, but I didn't mean it in a negative way?

Barad Dur1 votes

LMAO i have called my black cousin the N word right to his face but he knew i was joking. People who arent crybabies can tell the difference like that. I dont tolerate racism but fact is racist jokes and gay jokes are funny. You can try to be politically correct all you want but even gay people and people of different skin colors will laugh at jokes aimed at them because they can take a joke.

Jo0o1 votes

Sure, a good politically incorrect joke is fine. But it's all about delivery and intent! And anybody who spends any amount of time on the internet knows that delivery and intent are murky as hell through the typed word. You should know better than to assume that people will get your "humor" when they're strangers on the internet.

Barad Dur1 votes

Never thought about it like that, I just assume people will understand my meaning and not take it offensively. Guess thats why i got banned in the first place was underestimating how butthurt people get over small things.

Radnar the bold3 votes

Would you call a random black guy the n word? Would you say "oh that's gay" to a gay man? It's not about being politically correct, it's about not having to use hurtful fucking words to make a point. Also don't just mass people into this thing of "oh all of them can take a joke" cause guess what, it's not everyone. Why does saying "oh thats gay" make your pointer stronger? There are hundreds of different words to use to make your point across, so try to use less offensive words.

Barad Dur1 votes

That i can agree with

Radnar the bold2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Barad Dur,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3WGc5REL,comment-id=00070000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-09-15T19:57:26.050+0000)

That i can agree with

Trust me, I know I can sometimes say retard and gay and then forget that they are hurtful. I try to keep those words in a space with friends and people I know won't take offense. However, I don't know everyone on the internet so I try to keep a pg-pg13 dialog with it.

Astôlfo3 votes

Nah. Should've changed earlier. You deserved it.

Barad Dur1 votes

On my other account i have never been reported because i have changed, its like riot places me with people to see if they can piss me off to get me banned.

Astôlfo1 votes

Your chatlog from the reasons you got permanently banned on this one tell me you haven't changed.

Barad Dur1 votes

I really have i just havent played in a month and pretty much forgot how strict the system is on any form of emotional butthurtness. I can log in and play with no restrictions on my other account right now.

Astôlfo1 votes

And your reply right now shows you still haven't learned your lesson.

Barad Dur1 votes

dude i wont do it anymore i will turn off my all chat just so i cant even see what people say, I really do mute people when they are toxic and just flat out dont respond to them i just came back and was a loose cannon because i was rusty at the game. I just want a repeal if i get reported one more time for good reason idgaf if i get perma banned i wouldnt be here pleading if i didnt think i couldnt change. I was triggered by a team mate and i fell for it my bad i am sorry.

Dynikus2 votes

I can change

*proceeds to be incredibly negative in every comment he posts

Barad Dur1 votes

I have calmed down i was just pissed because i logged in to find out i was perma banned.

Palmeiras SerieB1 votes

Yes, you can change.

That's why Riot allows you to create a new account and then keep playing and changing.

Barad Dur1 votes

I just want a 2 week ban or something, i have another account i just dont want to lose the money i have spent on this one.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Why do you deserve to be a special snowflake?

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