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Compensation from previous honor update.

Cursedgamefreak··3 votes·2,076 views

So looking back at the Riots coming fourth with the new Honor update they said there would be some sort of compensation for people who had already had large amounts of teamwork, friendly, and etc going into this new honor update. So I'm wondering if they had completely forgotten about it, so those who had large amounts of honor before(I had gathered nearly around 1,000 teamwork, and around 700 of the other 3 combined) are just completely non-existent or is it known if we're getting something soon in the future? Because I feel like those who followed good sportsmanship before this honor update should be rewarded.

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RiotSimurgh11 votes

We're working on it. Sorry its taking longer than expected.

Jericho Azariah1 votes

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TheEvilQueen1351 votes

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U FUCKERS! I told you many time; on the second fucking day of the vs event, that it froze and it stopped taking in tokens/points, i was keeping your event site surveyed, and was recording the data.You either give the actual winner, give both icon and ending, or give a full refund to everyone who purchased during that damaged event......i fucking warned you and your company of this damage within your event's system and that it was receiving nothing, and to get no answer from anyone, you fuckers purposely tried to hide this till i took a look at it's code; you either fix this or be ready to lose a large number of your community.

this post isn't even about that... its about honor changes

Jericho Azariah1 votes

they have been denying my evidence, i'm going to make them fix this since they knew their system was completely frozen during the second day

KorHD3 votes

They stole no money. You gave it to them. It's in the T&C when you press "Purchase". Regardless, your money made no difference. Store purchases did not earn points for either faction. If it would, chaos would have won since day 1. If you had any friends you would have realised everyone is using a chaos icon, and that is why chaos won, as the only way to earn points for either faction was to play and win games using a chaos/order icon. I do not understand how it affects you, but i can guarantee their system was working, order had a slight lead in the first days of the event but lost ground really fast towards the end of the week. I too have been watching it and can assure you of that. As for your "comment section" you can always start a new topic to display your point of view. Not like this, i would suggest, or you will more likely get a restriction from the boards, rather than an answer...

Jericho Azariah1 votes

i mean they don't even have a comment section that is for issues during the event, they didn't gave a damn and stole money from all it's participant, i am not going to completely ignore this issue, if they wont fix it then i will gladly take over and fix it

Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votes

People like you are the reason why Rioters don't comment on the boards anymore.

Mysticman891 votes

Any thoughts on if it's going to be about the flat amount, or more ratio of (old) honours to games played?

On one hand, someone who played 500 games and had 500+ honours is probably a fabulous individual compared to someone who played 5000 games and 'only' got 500 honours, but on the other hand honour participation was pretty meh previously so it'd be kinda lame for decent players to miss out just because they played more.

Supz1 votes

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Mysticman891 votes

Yeah, which is the third hand to consider. Plenty of people out there who frequently play in a premade, and might be proud of their 1k+ old honours (that were mostly received from premade teammates) and want some sort of compensation, but solo joe might have 100 old honours but they're from 100 unique players.

So theres the person with a lot of honours but a crappy honours/games played ratio, the person with a lot of honours and a great ratio but relatively few unique ones, and the person with few honours but a great ratio.

Since we didn't and don't have a transparent view of our old underlying honour rating(s), it seems really difficult for them to say who deserves compensation without people feeling cheated, as there's assuredly people from all 3 categories who feel that they do deserve an extra reward and that it'd be unfair to exclude them. If they just say "We calculated everyones underlying honour score and gave an extra reward based on that", theres going to be a lot of backlash from people who had large counts but weren't eligible.

You don't really want to indirectly penalise people who played a ton (and so had a meh ratio), nor does it seem prudent for them to exclude groups of friends who are almost always playing as a premade 5 (and hence have relatively few unique honourings) when in various ways they've tried to encourage people to play with friends.

Supz1 votes

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Mysticman891 votes

I'm pointing out that it's going to be hard to explain to the people who had 500+ honours (most of which may have been weighted at little to nothing although they may not have been aware) that it counts for nothing in terms of compensation in the new system, while their friend who had 'only' 100 honours does get compensated (since they were all full weight honours).

Theres lots of backlash over completely reasonable things on the forums as is due to people not really understanding stuff (be it due the explanation being in an obscure spot, or outright stupidity), and here even the brightest among us don't actually know how the underlying weightings work since they simply never told us.

Or maybe they're planning the reward(s) in such a way that sidesteps the various issues, which is why I asked.

Supz1 votes

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Mysticman891 votes

MMR resets/placements/matchmaking in general are an example that comes to mind where people get angry over things they often don't actually understand. Also, key fragment drops, and really balance changes in general. MMR is probably the most comparable example, since people get upset when they're ranked gold but get matched with silvers, which is a case of the hidden underlying number that actually matters (MMR) being lower than what they think it should be and not corresponding to what they see (their rank).

Is it fair to someone who has played honourably for years with their friends to not get any compensation just because they've exclusively played with their friends?

(Not talking about friends intentionally working together to spam each other honours, but the real group of people who only play league because their friends do, and so will pretty much always be in a premade.)

As a solo player myself I certainly have no personal objections if their reward criteria favours solo players over those who tended to play in premades, but historically they've always given incentives to group players (bonus ip, extra fragment drop chances, etc.) so it'd be an interesting precedent if the compensation here was biased towards solos (who have 4 potential unique teammates to potentially honour them every game) over premades (who have 3 to even 0 unique teammates to potentially honour them each game).

Now sure, they could be "Well, the solo players are interacting with more unique people, and making the game enjoyable for more people, and so it's fair they get rewarded extra right? Group players may be out of luck for this particular criteria, but hey, you had fun playing with your friends." but I dunno if that's realistic to expect.

Cursedgamefreak2 votes

It's cool. Thanks for responding. Appreciate knowing that it's still being looked at :D

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

They have not forgotten about it. It was added into the Support FAQs page just the other day.

What do I get for my old honors?

We're prepping a small parting gift for those who participated in Honor 1.0. We’ll share more details once Honor is live around the world.

It's a bit vague, so there's no real indication of what that might be, but they should be letting people know in the other regions soon. According to the Twitter feeds, it looks like they were still working on setting the go-live dates for some of the servers.

Cursedgamefreak1 votes

Alright. Cool thanks. I thought they were like releasing it as soon as the new honor went live.

GreatWhiteNorth2 votes

Compensation for what?

Cursedgamefreak2 votes

For being honorable and sportsman like before the new honor update

Ukee491 votes

good question. I don't know but I was wondering thatsummoner 7

BurritoYunus1 votes

Do you think people with around 350-450 (like me) will get anything?

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