is there enough data to disconnect people who the system considers is a feeder/afk?

purrrf3ction··2 votes·2,733 views

i was wondering if riot has enough data already to determine if a player is afk/feeder due to the reports sent in i noticed the smite thing in a new patch so i was wondering if it would be possible to do something like that for afk/feeders there is also a code existing already for afk so i was wondering if that code can be used to disconnect feeders in a game similar to ai where you have to input the data i was curious if you guys could input the stack ratios and movements from previous games where people report feeders and input that into a small little bot to determine if a player is afk or feeding and please disconnect them since it is really frustrating for the others i do not think banning the feeders/afk is neccessary since everyone just creates new accounts but i was curious if there was a way to just disconnect them so the rest of the team can have fun since the rest of the team is following the summoner rules riot created and working as a team or possibly que the people who feed/afk(code/report based data)more often together than que them with people who just have low kda i understand fake reports but that is also why i mentioned the stack ratio and movement on map becuase i noticed feeders wil often stand in places so i was curious if you guys could input that code and disconnect in a shorter amount of time when stacks/movement rates are not reached if that makes any sense i feel the major code to focus on is stacks/gold income becuase stacks are the main reason why feeding works so well but im not sure but having afk is a lot of fun since it is just fun to be able to test out your build i think dunkey did it in a youtube video but there was someone else who posted about his quentionable ban when there are so many toxic players who feed and brag in a very toxic about having other players on the opposite team feed so they can win

please let me know if anything i typed does not make sense and please do not post toxic comments jsut to be negaitve if its constructive criticism it will be read with much respect and i do not work for riot i just love the programming of this game i think it is quite brilliant and i wish to keep this game as advanced as possible

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LostFr0st3 votes

The game isn't about kills, it's about destroying the Nexus. Many deaths=/=not trying to win.
By the logic in your post above almost every person learning a new champ and sucking at them/learning how to play singed (kappa) would be insta booted from the game.
Your proposal is unfair to those people.
I would rather a feeder than a rager in my game any day. At least you can utilize the feeder to distract the enemy team with their own bloodlust while you pressure objectives. A rager just demoralizes the whole team and makes everyone play worse.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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The game isn't about kills, it's about destroying the Nexus. Many deaths=/=not trying to win.
By the logic in your post above almost every person learning a new champ and sucking at them/learning how to play singed (kappa) would be insta booted from the game.
Your proposal is unfair to those people.
I would rather a feeder than a rager in my game any day. At least you can utilize the feeder to distract the enemy team with their own bloodlust while you pressure objectives. A rager just demoralizes the whole team and makes everyone play worse.

no i mean the people who purposely feed beause i play co op a lot so i guess im use to what a game would look like if no one fed or afk and tried their best.... and tbh those people should not play ranked until they learned all their champs and play in draft or co op until they have learned to play the champ like i have i have spent hours in co op and draft perfecting my skills and builds before i played on ranked so tbh...idk if what you are saying is accurate when there are many people who do not play co op or practice at all before they play ranked and expect people to throw the game for them and i made it clear i dont care bout afk people who sit at the base and do nothing i only care about people who go around doing nothing and dying and feeding the other team on purpose

Saljin2 votes

i also play champs i know but that doesn't mean i can't have a bad game. a while ago i played my main amumu jungle, i got coutnered by an invade they took my blue and my team didn't help. np i can get back. however it happened again at red and kruggs so i died several times. even though my avarage ammumu game is great. should i get booted because i went 0-6?

purrrf3ction1 votes

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i also play champs i know but that doesn't mean i can't have a bad game. a while ago i played my main amumu jungle, i got coutnered by an invade they took my blue and my team didn't help. np i can get back. however it happened again at red and kruggs so i died several times. even though my avarage ammumu game is great. should i get booted because i went 0-6?

true but a lot of really good players who carry the game has roasted me saying i should practice more since i am ruining their game experience with my lack of knowledge... at first i thoguht they were just being mean but after being in this community a while now i understand the whole girl/boobie streamer thing and its affect.... most of the time i pretend to be a guy just to get treated equally without being harassed or having them threaten me by feeding becuase i dont want to flirt or date them (which i think is 99% due to the boobie streamers and now all the guys think all girl streamers/gamers want to show boobs to get carried....creating a very hostile enviornment...so i just pretend to be a guy most of the time) well i noticed for invasions...if your team cannot or does not want to invade...its over haha thats the thing about invasion though...if its not 5v5 its over for you... i think you should know that by now if you are in ranked games...

61939590DEL12 votes

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true but a lot of really good players who carry the game has roasted me saying i should practice more since i am ruining their game experience with my lack of knowledge... at first i thoguht they were just being mean but after being in this community a while now i understand the whole girl/boobie streamer thing and its affect.... most of the time i pretend to be a guy just to get treated equally without being harassed or having them threaten me by feeding becuase i dont want to flirt or date them (which i think is 99% due to the boobie streamers and now all the guys think all girl streamers/gamers want to show boobs to get carried....creating a very hostile enviornment...so i just pretend to be a guy most of the time) well i noticed for invasions...if your team cannot or does not want to invade...its over haha thats the thing about invasion though...if its not 5v5 its over for you... i think you should know that by now if you are in ranked games...

Listen girl why are you so stuck on the immaturity aspect of most males. Yes males play this game way more than females & yet they can't contain their own emotions deep within. We got a bunch of male teenagers who play this game, so just ignore these brats that say immature 18+ shit.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Listen girl why are you so stuck on the immaturity aspect of most males. Yes males play this game way more than females & yet they can't contain their own emotions deep within. We got a bunch of male teenagers who play this game, so just ignore these brats that say immature 18+ shit.

i just pretend to be male...but there are a lot of underage kids playing idk if i would want my daughter to be threatened for not wanting to date them.... im just thinking of my future.... and i agree but i think it should still be slightly enforced if that makes sense... i know it wil still happen but i think it is our job as the more mature ones to be there when the younger/weaker need help is all im saying idk how else to help atm but pretend to be a male haha

twirlingfox1 votes

I'm not sure who you're hanging around with, but I am also a girl and I have never been harassed due to my gender on LoL. No one knows I'm a girl until they either ask my gender or if it is contextually appropriate to say what my gender is. So for you to be saying that you are constantly being threatened by men because they want to date you implies that you very often say you are a girl, likely for no reason. At least I've never had anyone in a norm say "you a girl or a boy?" to me for no reason. So I think the best thing for you to do is to just not bring up gender at all...?

purrrf3ction1 votes

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I'm not sure who you're hanging around with, but I am also a girl and I have never been harassed due to my gender on LoL. No one knows I'm a girl until they either ask my gender or if it is contextually appropriate to say what my gender is. So for you to be saying that you are constantly being threatened by men because they want to date you implies that you very often say you are a girl, likely for no reason. At least I've never had anyone in a norm say "you a girl or a boy?" to me for no reason. So I think the best thing for you to do is to just not bring up gender at all...?

well i dont do the usually google builds and from playing a lot people who innovate feed a lot and almost every girl i have played with has either fed or rage afk/feed i thought saying im a girl would be cool cause no girls play until the inequality started showing up since i was going to study programming so this game has a lot of personal interest so i always like to try dif builds with dif masteries/items/runes since by codes it is very intersting the dif ways to create/build i only get threatened or looked down upon when i say i am a girl and thats fine cause i havent met another girl who can build or does not feed at any given role since i can lane in all lanes well i met/seen a lot of girls who take advantage of men for skins or to carry them in games... you can deny all you want but youtube and twitch are flooded with evidence all im saying is the guys are all hurt from fake gamer girls who beg with nudes to get carried thus ruining it for girl who can actually play and dont want to send nudes and just want some equality or to be treated like one of the bros

twirlingfox1 votes

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and almost every girl i have played with has either fed or rage afk/feed and thats fine cause i havent met another girl who can build or does not feed at any given role since i can lane in all lanes i thought saying im a girl would be cool cause no girls play

For starters, all of those statements are stereotyping girls. You are literally stereotyping in your post about not stereotyping...

{quoted} well i dont do the usually google builds and from playing a lot people who innovate feed a lot until the inequality started showing up since i was going to study programming so this game has a lot of personal interest and thats fine cause i havent met another girl who can build or does not feed at any given role since i can lane in all lanes all im saying is the guys are all hurt from fake gamer girls who beg with nudes to get carried well i met/seen a lot of girls who take advantage of men for skins or to carry them in games... you can deny all you want but youtube and twitch are flooded with evidence

Okay, none of those points had anything to do with the original argument at all. In fact, the only point I saw out of everything you listed that had anything to do with the argument was

{quoted} i thought saying im a girl would be cool cause no girls play

which, mind you, is another stereotype because girls do play this game.

If you just left gender out of it this wouldn't be an issue. I'm not looking for excuses. I don't care.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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For starters, all of those statements are stereotyping girls. You are literally stereotyping in your post about not stereotyping...

Okay, none of those points had anything to do with the original argument at all. In fact, the only point I saw out of everything you listed that had anything to do with the argument was

which, mind you, is another stereotype because girls do play this game.

If you just left gender out of it this wouldn't be an issue. I'm not looking for excuses. I don't care.

then let me rephrase this most of the guys i meet in real life and i tell them i play league expect me to listen to their builds etc or want to date me and harass me when i dont the guys online are easier to deal with since i just block but you cant block a human being in your class tbh when i am being treated with stereotypes it is very irritating when i have to lie about how i truly feel/am

purrrf3ction1 votes

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I'm not sure who you're hanging around with, but I am also a girl and I have never been harassed due to my gender on LoL. No one knows I'm a girl until they either ask my gender or if it is contextually appropriate to say what my gender is. So for you to be saying that you are constantly being threatened by men because they want to date you implies that you very often say you are a girl, likely for no reason. At least I've never had anyone in a norm say "you a girl or a boy?" to me for no reason. So I think the best thing for you to do is to just not bring up gender at all...?

i actualy dont have any friends..i have more blocked than friends thats what im saying..i have to pretend to be a guy and i dont think that is fair im very friendly and i am very open about everything since this is the internet and i doubt anyone will know if it is the truth or not so i speak my mind and i dont really care haha but what i am saying is i dont find it fair that i cannot say i am a girl and still play fairly maybe you dont understand because you enjoy people throwing the game for you or givng you advice...but thats not how i play so if that is how you play then i think our conversation is over im sorry but i cannot continue a conversation where you cant see my side of the argument when i clearly understand yours and i agree about not bringing it up...but i think that is very unfair if it is the only way to be safe so be it i just dont understand how men can complain about the lack of gamers when they harass every single on that plays and same with females harassing and taking advantage of men for views/rank/items/runes/skins etc

61939590DEL11 votes

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idk if i would want my daughter to be threatened for not wanting to date them.... im just thinking of my future.... and i agree but i think it should still be slightly enforced if that makes sense... i know it wil still happen but i think it is our job as the more mature ones to be there when the younger/weaker need help is all im saying

Well this younger generation of kids are walking on a tight rope per say, yet these universities & colleges that promoted League of Legends into the scholarship systems are just disastrous period. Yet we CANNOT help the ones that are weak in the head because of poor guidance. Do you understand what video games are doing to the United States and other third countries around the globe?

Yet i see no improvement whatsoever humans are corrupted by technology or soon all will be. Example: Parents are misguiding their love ones.

Only a few people per say know the truth tho "what will be the next normal?" The majority of the world's population will become "Normals" fixated into technology, on video games the list goes on & on. Yet I'm one of the bystanders that dislike the way this path of humanity is going.

You all should know the one Major Mental Health issue that's suffocating the United States of America & Donald Trump isn't going to fix it that's for sure, but as North Americans including the US we are all consuming ourselves to death by food & technology.

I really feel bad for these people in these gaming tournaments & they may gain money, fame & friends, but they have lost their soul.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Well this younger generation of kids are walking on a tight rope per say, yet these universities & colleges that promoted League of Legends into the scholarship systems are just disastrous period. Yet we CANNOT help the ones that are weak in the head because of poor guidance. Do you understand what video games are doing to the United States and other third countries around the globe?

Yet i see no improvement whatsoever humans are corrupted by technology or soon all will be. Example: Parents are misguiding their love ones.

Only a few people per say know the truth tho "what will be the next normal?" The majority of the world's population will become "Normals" fixated into technology, on video games the list goes on & on. Yet I'm one of the bystanders that dislike the way this path of humanity is going.

You all should know the one Major Mental Health issue that's suffocating the United States of America & Donald Trump isn't going to fix it that's for sure, but as North Americans including the US we are all consuming ourselves to death by food & technology.

I really feel bad for these people in these gaming tournaments & they may gain money, fame & friends, but they have lost their soul.

tbh i think its only the pvp that is toxic.. i use to play a lot of console games but never connected with others i loved kirby and never treated with toxicity i was really bad at mario so the worst was my cousins beat me haha big deal but i have noticed this whole pvp thing is really what makes it toxic...if that makes snse its not even the game its just human interaction at this point... i agree with the humaninty thing and thats why im always starting new accounts to see what the new standards are but i have noticed no matter how many new accounts i start it doesnt mattter since most of the porblems begins wit people who either get carried or buy accounts elo boosting is not a problem when you know you can play at a higher level since there is so many feeders/etc the thing about humanity is that not one problem is the same i play a lot of coop so bots get too predictable i always spam ranked and so on when i see very simple misplays taht should not have happened.... but i noticed a lot of people just dont play co op so yeah.... idk the system is there but no one uses it -.-||||| i dont think pro players have lost their souls i have been an athelete most of my life but swimming is not a huge money thing haha so yeah...its really how people react to money and sometimes it doesnt even come from the pro players.... thats why i was scared to go pro since i was scared i would lose my voice/opinoin also why i refused to become a streamer as well haha

Saljin1 votes

tbh i have no idea what you are trying to say, if u mean i shouldn't invade solo. i never invade solo if u meant if the enemy invades solo. he didn't invade solo.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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tbh i have no idea what you are trying to say, if u mean i shouldn't invade solo. i never invade solo if u meant if the enemy invades solo. he didn't invade solo.

i invade solo soraka a lot lol they never expect supp invade haha so it gives my jg/adc a bit of time haha then i die if they are all there..... but all im saying is if they have like 2 ppl helping jg its over....haha

Glaedr1 votes

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i also play champs i know but that doesn't mean i can't have a bad game. a while ago i played my main amumu jungle, i got coutnered by an invade they took my blue and my team didn't help. np i can get back. however it happened again at red and kruggs so i died several times. even though my avarage ammumu game is great. should i get booted because i went 0-6?

I feel like if Riot was to ever do something like this, it would obviously have to be very blatant intentional feeding. A 0-6 dude doesn't look too good, but I mean if the game sees they're actually damaging champions, still farming up, and not dying within a minute of them spawning every time, then it would be pretty clear they're still trying to play the game.

It sounds cool on paper, but I just don't see it being a viable idea because the risk of a false-positive is too high. It's not like banning for people for intentional feeding by getting weeks to months worth of data from a single player to determine that they are an extreme outlier in terms of stats. If there was ever something like this ingame, it would have to be something extreme, which would make it pretty useless and easy to avoid.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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I feel like if Riot was to ever do something like this, it would obviously have to be very blatant intentional feeding. A 0-6 dude doesn't look too good, but I mean if the game sees they're actually damaging champions, still farming up, and not dying within a minute of them spawning every time, then it would be pretty clear they're still trying to play the game.

It sounds cool on paper, but I just don't see it being a viable idea because the risk of a false-positive is too high. It's not like banning for people for intentional feeding by getting weeks to months worth of data from a single player to determine that they are an extreme outlier in terms of stats. If there was ever something like this ingame, it would have to be something extreme, which would make it pretty useless and easy to avoid.

tbh i have seen a lot of new changes but i see a lot of ways that it is avoided or whatever such as the afk system... if i get dc...and i reconnect...and they dc me again...hah i really cant do anything since i refuse to hack so yeah i think riot didnt have afk in s1 but now they do so yeah....i dont ever blame riot since i feel like stuff like poaching...it will never stop and plus that is the beauty of human nature cause if you play enough coop it does get super boring haha and i think that is why i mentioned stacks...but for non programmers..it is a super hard concept to understand like for me i dont need math to program but for others the math is what makes sense...so yeah and banning for feeding is kind of hard since sometimes when i play drunk i feed hella bad haha but i try not to play ranked when i drunk but yeah... thats why i was saying do it by code and behaviors idk... thats why i related it back to ai for those who understand since i think most would just ignore if it didnt make sense..... but i always try to keep an open mind since i think everyone always has really good ideas and i think thats why almost all my engineering and comp sci classes force me to teamwork...T^T

LostFr0st1 votes

Someone is always going to feed, you have to give in to it. I care a great deal about someone afking since they now can't even relieve pressure through getting the enemy team to hunt them. I'm sure others share that view.

I'll take their base with the rest of my team while they pad their kda, I don't care if they're legendary. I've done it while feeding with Ashe (they had a Fizz QQ *shudder) using hawkshot to outmaneuver the enemy. I also play a ton of coop too and trust me, you don't have to try to not feed in coop. For myself, if i'm playing coop and I die more than 2 times I'm feeding basically in my eyes since real players would have killed me 12+ times if I was playing bad enough for the bots to kill me twice. I also can't wait for doombots to come back <3

What we have to understand is that some people can't look past the kills and play the game like CoD.
If they die to an enemy then the enemy "got lucky" and next time they'll get him.
They don't understant that they're down two levels and 90cs.
That one time they finally kill the enemy (because the enemy was dumb enough to stay there after killing them twice+) is worth it. "I killed him, I'm now stronger than the enemy" is what they think.

tldr: Nobody wants to feed, humans innately want praise.
Troll feeders have just gone over the edge and have given up on it.
There is always going to be someone more skilled than someone else even if we all practice before ranked. No amount of base bar of skill required is going to change that. Just lead your team of cats better than the enemy's team of cats.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Someone is always going to feed, you have to give in to it. I care a great deal about someone afking since they now can't even relieve pressure through getting the enemy team to hunt them. I'm sure others share that view.

I'll take their base with the rest of my team while they pad their kda, I don't care if they're legendary. I've done it while feeding with Ashe (they had a Fizz QQ *shudder) using hawkshot to outmaneuver the enemy. I also play a ton of coop too and trust me, you don't have to try to not feed in coop. For myself, if i'm playing coop and I die more than 2 times I'm feeding basically in my eyes since real players would have killed me 12+ times if I was playing bad enough for the bots to kill me twice. I also can't wait for doombots to come back <3

What we have to understand is that some people can't look past the kills and play the game like CoD.
If they die to an enemy then the enemy "got lucky" and next time they'll get him.
They don't understant that they're down two levels and 90cs.
That one time they finally kill the enemy (because the enemy was dumb enough to stay there after killing them twice+) is worth it. "I killed him, I'm now stronger than the enemy" is what they think.

tldr: Nobody wants to feed, humans innately want praise.
Troll feeders have just gone over the edge and have given up on it.
There is always going to be someone more skilled than someone else even if we all practice before ranked. No amount of base bar of skill required is going to change that. Just lead your team of cats better than the enemy's team of cats.

tbh i noticed it is really hard to do anything new on this game especially builds due to past experiences since most innovators are feeders idk if this is a good thing or not but i know where you are coming from i think i think it encourages people to meet each other but at the same time it gets rather awkward for girls since there are more guys than girls who play on this game i do not like to flirt with guys to get carried....so it makes it even more awkward for me i get more harassment since i do not want to flirt with then and i find that reallly unfair since i do not need to be carried since i carry in co op i just wanted people who could actually feed the game instead of feed when i tell them i have no interest in flirting or dating them... and no offense but due to all the "boobie" streamers guys automatically think a girl wants to be carried and has to show her tits just to play fair which i find it very abusive since i can play like any other guy.... just not with a teammate who purposely feeds because i refused to send him nudes/date/flirt with him....

LostFr0st1 votes

I'm not sure if this would work for you too since I'm a tomboy kinda girl but you should try integrating yourself into whatever champ you're playing at the time. For example, if you're playing Kha'Zix you're a guy to me because I don't think people really have a gender in video games, it's just whatever gender your champ has that game to me. I will never play Gragas for that reason alone lol. If you only play guy champs you'll always be a guy to me and the same for all girl champs. Your gender will even swap if you hover something different. I'll call every jinx "she" in chat even if I know it's a guy. Haven't run into any problems yet fingers crossed

Not that it really matters, but I'm also not sure how they're pegging you as a girl so easily (usually it would be a summoner name like "pretty flower69" or "sparklenat0r" <---no idea if these are actual summoner names; if they are pls don't strangle me^^) since it's usually the summoner name that triggers the rude behavior. (I've had friends name change for that reason) But yours is ambiguous enough that it can't be the problem... this confuzzles me.

Mobility Power1 votes

usually its easy for me to tell if someones a girl or guy based on the way they type or respond to chat i often try to accommodate to the people i play with, especially chat wise. im not sure if people like it or not. i have 200 some friends and get lots of invites/people wanting to play and iv never had a chat restriction despite saying toxic things sometimes. idk if people just dont report me usually because they like me overall or riot doesn't recognize the things i say. either way its usually easy for me to recognize personality types and act the way people would probably want. not perfect of course though.

LostFr0st1 votes

Yes, I am aware that some people have a conscience and are attuned to others' traits. What do you suggest OP do then though? I'm not sure how that helps her out.

Mobility Power1 votes

Sorry you are right my post basically doesnt mention anything useful. i wrote this a long time ago when i was fairly tired, rereading it is just like reading a bunch of rambling. not sure if i should remove or not however i don't have any new advice to give not stated by others. sorry.

LostFr0st1 votes

Nah, we good bb. It's nice to know there's such a human being on the rift^^

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Nah, we good bb. It's nice to know there's such a human being on the rift^^

same ^-^ but there is a very few of us and a lot of us dont want to voice our opinions for various reasons and i repsect that haha

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Sorry you are right my post basically doesnt mention anything useful. i wrote this a long time ago when i was fairly tired, rereading it is just like reading a bunch of rambling. not sure if i should remove or not however i don't have any new advice to give not stated by others. sorry.

nono i think if it is not toxic, it is just as important i agree with all teachers when they say there is no such thing as a stupid answer/question i kinda forgot..but haha its ok i think all posts are rambling but i dont judge i love having discussions about this game i think thats the beauty of this game where it brings out the humanity of others in good ways and bad apparently... omg dont remove anything haha i love innovation probably why i love this game so much ahah

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Yes, I am aware that some people have a conscience and are attuned to others' traits. What do you suggest OP do then though? I'm not sure how that helps her out.

well i was hoping to input my own gameplay into bots one day lol so i can like record a certain build/gameplay and then input that into a bot and have that bot 1v1 me like in co op but with my own gamelplay... not a predetermined gameplay that i already memorized haha

LostFr0st1 votes

Well if they bring back doombots I'm gonna practice dodging skills there :3 It was super fun last time and an awesome training experience.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Well if they bring back doombots I'm gonna practice dodging skills there :3 It was super fun last time and an awesome training experience.

what are doombots? sounds interesting

LostFr0st1 votes

Doombots was a game mode where the AI had their skills cranked up to the point where being near them would basically blow you up.
Amumu being at drag would mean all enemy mid and bot minions would have his despair aoe around them. Being near any tower would burn (even your own) since they had permanent Kayle E on them.
The bots also had 2 passives, their own and another champion's passive so they were often hard to kill (some would get anivia egg, blitz passive, eve's shadow walk, etc and the passive would change if you killed them.) There were also 3 difficulties of these doombots. I had much fun in that mode.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Doombots was a game mode where the AI had their skills cranked up to the point where being near them would basically blow you up.
Amumu being at drag would mean all enemy mid and bot minions would have his despair aoe around them. Being near any tower would burn (even your own) since they had permanent Kayle E on them.
The bots also had 2 passives, their own and another champion's passive so they were often hard to kill (some would get anivia egg, blitz passive, eve's shadow walk, etc and the passive would change if you killed them.) There were also 3 difficulties of these doombots. I had much fun in that mode.

why did riot take that away? i mean i can kinda imagine why...but that just sucks for others....sigh humanity sometimes shakes head well lets be honest here...a lot of those champs are useless if not fed or have teamwork

LostFr0st1 votes

They didn't take it away, It was a featured game mode so it left once the couple weeks was over. It took a lot of time to script the bots and some of the champs have been reworked so they'd need to script them all over again. If I remember correctly the mode was on the old Rift so it was quite a while ago~ They're no against re-adding it, but I'm guessing they'll wait at least a couple months after the mage update hits live to re-introduce doombots if they do since we need to get used to those champs' new mechanics before they are ramped up to 1000.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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usually its easy for me to tell if someones a girl or guy based on the way they type or respond to chat i often try to accommodate to the people i play with, especially chat wise. im not sure if people like it or not. i have 200 some friends and get lots of invites/people wanting to play and iv never had a chat restriction despite saying toxic things sometimes. idk if people just dont report me usually because they like me overall or riot doesn't recognize the things i say. either way its usually easy for me to recognize personality types and act the way people would probably want. not perfect of course though.

i mute a lot...but summoner rift rules is teamwork.... so im like facepalm and reporting is annoying...wastes my time but i report and block so i know its them when i get matched with them again haha or you carry them haha and same but i rather just block them and later on find out oh i blocked them already then im not as tilted... i block and report to mark them so im not so tilted and disappointed a human can be so toxic and rude when they afk/feed

purrrf3ction1 votes

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I'm not sure if this would work for you too since I'm a tomboy kinda girl but you should try integrating yourself into whatever champ you're playing at the time. For example, if you're playing Kha'Zix you're a guy to me because I don't think people really have a gender in video games, it's just whatever gender your champ has that game to me. I will never play Gragas for that reason alone lol. If you only play guy champs you'll always be a guy to me and the same for all girl champs. Your gender will even swap if you hover something different. I'll call every jinx "she" in chat even if I know it's a guy. Haven't run into any problems yet fingers crossed

Not that it really matters, but I'm also not sure how they're pegging you as a girl so easily (usually it would be a summoner name like "pretty flower69" or "sparklenat0r" <---no idea if these are actual summoner names; if they are pls don't strangle me^^) since it's usually the summoner name that triggers the rude behavior. (I've had friends name change for that reason) But yours is ambiguous enough that it can't be the problem... this confuzzles me.

i want to stand up for females and thats why i always only play female champs to prove women are just as good... not just boobie streamers ok please haha i usually try to find the most male usernames possible unless its my main but then i got harassed a lot becuase i didnt want to build the way other guys told me to build... im like dude i bet if you i gav you nudes you would be all for it

LostFr0st1 votes

Ahh so maybe that's why they always call you 'she' XP Maybe they aren't all talking about you when they say she but your champion?

But legit, why don't you play any guy champs QQ many of them are very adorable and I feel like you're missing out. and regarding this:

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im like dude i bet if you i gav you nudes you would be all for it

are you baiting them? ROFL I'm literally dying here OP QQ

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Ahh so maybe that's why they always call you 'she' XP Maybe they aren't all talking about you when they say she but your champion?

But legit, why don't you play any guy champs QQ many of them are very adorable and I feel like you're missing out. and regarding this:

are you baiting them? ROFL I'm literally dying here OP QQ

lol i try not to bait im just trying to be treated equally cause when i play too many feeders and people who throw the game it gets hella predictable reading the champs and so on and it makes me want to quit league... and i havent even been playing that long so i can understand how certain people who have played longer feel lol i hate feeling trapped so i figured i speak up on it since i am a girl and most girls beg to get carried and stuff for stuff lol

LostFr0st1 votes

One thing that helps is separating "being treated equally" from "being treated normally." You won't always be a member of the group when in game (some people are queued together) especially in AI since that's where people go to test the limits of a new champs (one must die several times to truly push the limits in AI).
Everyone has to accept that. It's not really about how long you've been playing as much as having to "feel out" that game's chat before chatting.
AI is sorta different that way (for example if someone has a potato and we get in game 10 mins later I'll say "we made it guys" and wait for a response.)
It's different every game and sometimes you'll get chatters, sometimes not. If they ever have party ip weekend you should join the public chat "cooplfg," I've found many fun people there. I don't think its active normally though.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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One thing that helps is separating "being treated equally" from "being treated normally." You won't always be a member of the group when in game (some people are queued together) especially in AI since that's where people go to test the limits of a new champs (one must die several times to truly push the limits in AI).
Everyone has to accept that. It's not really about how long you've been playing as much as having to "feel out" that game's chat before chatting.
AI is sorta different that way (for example if someone has a potato and we get in game 10 mins later I'll say "we made it guys" and wait for a response.)
It's different every game and sometimes you'll get chatters, sometimes not. If they ever have party ip weekend you should join the public chat "cooplfg," I've found many fun people there. I don't think its active normally though.

i prefer equal to normal since being treated leads to being treated "normal" i like to test builds haha attack speed annie....lol hurricane works but the others ones.... pure attack speed is just hilarious haha cooldown works best since i get tibbers like every few seconds haha i want my baby bacccckkkk lol agree haha but its like....when i was younger i use to play neopets and since its a kids website haha i think it was safe at that time and i met a boy on that site so thats why i was so sensitive to toxic people he was like my first bf.... we like began a relationship becuse of neopets haha good old days when internet WAS safe i think...idk

LostFr0st1 votes

Wait 'till new Annie hits live next week in that case~ you'll love her. Yeah, it was pretty magic back then wasn't it. ^^

purrrf3ction2 votes

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Wait 'till new Annie hits live next week in that case~ you'll love her. Yeah, it was pretty magic back then wasn't it. ^^

WOOOTTTTTT thank you for all the information btw sorry i took so long to reply thank you again for everything ^-^

BeeCuz1 votes

{quoted} no i mean the people who purposely feed

That is unlikely to be a useful category: The team cannot determine "purposely" (they'll accuse anyone but themselves for a loss) and even the player accused of such actions is unlikely to be able to know if it was "on purpose." Brains are terrible at that kind of judgement.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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That is unlikely to be a useful category: The team cannot determine "purposely" (they'll accuse anyone but themselves for a loss) and even the player accused of such actions is unlikely to be able to know if it was "on purpose." Brains are terrible at that kind of judgement.

well i report a lot and i put a lot of details into the reports that i make so i was hoping to use the codes that i input into the reports and riot database for the game play i mean have you seen the smite patch haha i was hoping they could do that for the afk/feeders i agree it is difficult since people can always change their username but the data of such a change still exists haha so in a way...its not a new username since codes/data dont ever dissappear iin my eyes at least.............. i agree thats the beauty of humans in the negative sense but in the good sense there is always a chance of a really good idea no one has thought of right? haha

BeeCuz1 votes

The title of "feeder" is almost exclusively used as a method to blame team-mates for loss and extricate the player from responsibility for that loss.

Since there is some mention of the use of data for the purpose of improving game interaction:

Display the region's expected K/D/A for a champion/lane combo

This then becomes a par for the player to attempt on their champion, and an indicator of actual performance.

A further improvement over displaying Expected KDA would be to provide indicators that clearly and quickly give the player some sense of the bell curve and where they fit on it for those stats.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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The title of "feeder" is almost exclusively used as a method to blame team-mates for loss and extricate the player from responsibility for that loss.

Since there is some mention of the use of data for the purpose of improving game interaction:

Display the region's expected K/D/A for a champion/lane combo

This then becomes a par for the player to attempt on their champion, and an indicator of actual performance.

A further improvement over displaying Expected KDA would be to provide indicators that clearly and quickly give the player some sense of the bell curve and where they fit on it for those stats.

kda is very easy to set up if you know how to make people throw in a certain team i play a lot of co op and i noticed that if you try the program will not kill you or punish you so to speak for not being able to play what i mean is a lot of players i have seen pretty much auto click into base or they will purposely back click in the middle of a team fight or in the middle of the teamfight decide to just auto when everyone is ulting.... but idk maybe you dont pay that much attention but the ones who purposely play below their skill level or click into enemy base is my definition of feeders

SrbLud1 votes

The lack of punctuation made me dizzy...but an interesting post overall...i would like to see this go red...

purrrf3ction1 votes

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The lack of punctuation made me dizzy...but an interesting post overall...i would like to see this go red...

what does go red mean? and i am actually curious if it would work haha and thank you and im sorry aha

SrbLud1 votes

Going red means getting a rioter to comment on it

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Going red means getting a rioter to comment on it

ohhhh ty for answering and thats an interesting way to say it....lol

Fovere1 votes

Not that I am reading any of this thread, but I find it amusing someone wanting to force disconnect a player for being afk.

purrrf3ction1 votes

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Not that I am reading any of this thread, but I find it amusing someone wanting to force disconnect a player for being afk.

i get dc a lot and if you watched the 10 min afk video by dunkey... it has inspired me to catch up haha i think its quite fun but feeders...theres no way to catch up you gain a level they feed and then its 2v1 if you are bot and then top/mid you get ganked and jg you just end up in jg the rest of the game since you are too weak to lane since that one person decided to feed

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