[FOR RIOT DEVELOPMENT TEAM] Before you ban players...

DinkyBoat33··3 votes·1,218 views

Okay so before anyone says "It's not Riot, it's the LeaverBuster system", just read ahead for a little bit. I know that the system is made to automate the punishment dealt to negative players but Riot can still unban them even if its permanent, and the only reason they do that is if there's a billing conflict or whatever but I have a suggestion that would give Riot a reason to unban the players negative enough to get a perma-ban. I know it sounds completely un-needed and "They got what they deserved" but some people spent a fortune on the game and maybe they have more bad days than others. I have a friend who was pretty upset to see that after a few bad games that they had gotten banned from an account worth 1200$ with 5 years played and I know that he is competitive and it makes him that way but he couldn't have even been prepared because it went from 2 weeks ban to forever. I'm not saying people like this should be let off easy (although I do think that 2 weeks should increase to 4 or something before your account is suspended forever) but i do think that they should have a more serious option that allows them to keep their account, and I have 2 ideas:

Disable Free Chat, Use Pre-Written Chat Messages/Responses: Personally, I believe that this would work perfectly. If chat restrictions didn't work, then this will. This doesn't allow players to be toxic in game, but it still grants access to communicate with your team using generated messages. Ex. "May I please have blue buff?" and "Thanks!" for requesting a simple blue buff from your jungler. "Help top!" in case you need to defend up in the top lane. "Let's take Dragon!" to ask the jungler to help grab Dragon, along with pings can end in a simple, friendly, helpful way to allow the negative players to play on their accounts after all the money and time on them without causing grief in the community.

Reformation Last Chance Form Riot could compose an online reformation course that makes players fill out a form with their Summoner name, chat log (from ban), etc. and then they would have to specifically agree to a statement claiming "I am aware that my next report will indefinitely result in a permanent ban, as this is my Last Chance Form submission." and since they know at that point that if they receive another valid report, they'll have had it coming.

And Finally,

Live Chat with Reporter The only reason this would work is because when my friend was banned, it said that he was among the 0.08% (or somewhere around that) to be negative enough to get permanently banned. That means that this would not occur too frequently. To work things out, the player, a riot employee and the victim of the toxicity could enter a live chat and try to communicate and relieve the tension. This meet could takes place 3 times after a permanent ban but only after the 3rd time being permanently banned the player would have to accept that they have been given a multitude of chances to repair their attitude.

Now, once again, before you say "Oh but LeaverBuster gives you lots of chances" think about players who don't know how it works or are unsure when or if they will lose their account forever. Riot could even simply add a reminder like "Your next offense will result in a 24-Game chat restriction", "Your next offense will result in a 2 week suspension", and finally, "Your next offense will result in your account being suspended permanently". All these things would definitely make a better relationship with the players and most definitely change their attitude because they have been granted a chance to retrieve their years and money on a fun game that they lost because they had a bad day. Please do not comment negatively on this, as it is just a suggestion to keep a well-mannered relationship with those certain negative players, who will be longing for any way at all to get their account back.

Thank you for reading and I hope Riot takes this into thought.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

15 Comments

YOU LOST LMAO2 votes

I hate kids that play this game just to report players

DinkyBoat332 votes

As do I, but I understand that if you're feeding intentionally, leaving over and over or being racist or sexist or anything, a report is in order. The report I feel the least necessary is a report just for talking smack in a game because people do get mad but that's just how it is. Although I don't care much for the people that do report you for being a bit toxic, sometimes it is called for if the player is being intensely rude or mean. I just think that there should always be a way for everyone to play and try to have fun again, or if not, at least know that if they do it again, that's it and if they do, they at least had the chance to get rid of a permanent ban.

Athina2 votes

and the only reason they do that is if there's a billing conflict

What? Riot doesn't care about how much you've spent on the game. If you are causing trouble, they will punish you without a second thought. Riot gives you enough chances to fix your behavior that you shouldn't be able to complain about it. "I didn't know it was coming" is not a valid excuse. If you cared enough about keeping your account you would have fixed your behavior well in advance.

By the way, LeaverBuster deals with AFKs, which is a completely separate system.

DinkyBoat331 votes

First of all, I said they only unban you if you have a billing conflict, nothing else. Also, Riot does give you a few chat restrictions but then suddenly you're losing your account for a period of time, starting with 1 week, and then 2. To be completely honest, "I didn't know it was coming is completely valid if the player didn't know it could become so serious. Some players genuinely don't know that they're causing so much trouble and are in risk of losing their account, so they didn't think being toxic would be so harsh. Also, the players who are indeed much more toxic than others have an influence, and if they don't get banned then others don't take it as seriously. Please don't come and reply negatively, either. It's just a suggestion to maybe help them out better.

Athina1 votes

What would a billing conflict even be here?

And no, if a player bothered to read the reform card when they received their 14 day suspension, they would have found that it says the next one is permanent.

DinkyBoat331 votes

I'm not entirely sure. That's just what it says on the website. Also, not everyone reads the reform card, I'm pretty sure most don't. I think everyone can agree that it would be helpful to see it in big letters under the suspension duration. ex.

-14 DAY SUSPENSION- your next offense will result in: permanent ban

Chat Log: .............. ............ ............... ............. ............

View in more detail

etc.

DrCyanide1 votes

If someone buys RP, then disputes the purchase with their credit card company and gets a charge back, Riot locks (aka:"permabans") the account until the amount owed them is repaid.

A similar lock can be used when Riot suspects an account has been hacked, unbanning the account after they contact player support.

Zelorxon2 votes

Disable Free Chat, Use Pre-Written Chat Messages/Responses:

1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.

scazzman1 votes

the question i have. you said "the next report will result in a permanent ban" what happens if someone troll reports said player?

DinkyBoat331 votes

I also said somewhere in there that "if they receive another valid report, they'll have had it coming.". Riot checks reports before acting upon them and if they see that it is a fake report then they wont punish the player.

Remark the word "valid"

scazzman1 votes

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I also said somewhere in there that "if they receive another valid report, they'll have had it coming.". Riot checks reports before acting upon them and if they see that it is a fake report then they wont punish the player.

Remark the word "valid"

apologies. i missed the part where you said valid

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

It's not "next report", it's "next instance of toxicity reported and validated"

vampirekid131 votes

Hi, riot already tried all suggestions you made here and they all did more harm than good unfortunately. I was around long enough to see them trying all of them.

DinkyBoat331 votes

ive been around since the beginning too.. and they have not tried these things or riot wouldn't be having so much trouble with toxic players.

vampirekid131 votes

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ive been around since the beginning too.. and they have not tried these things or riot wouldn't be having so much trouble with toxic players.

Yes they did. They tried taking away chat permanently in season 4 with rolling chat restrictions and no bans for toxic behavior. So people started intentionally feeding when perma chat restricted. Before that they tried having a reform program. If you got perma banned and got your smurfs to 30 without a punishment you would get unbanned on your main. But no one managed that. And the few people that did would shortly get perma banned again on their main.

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