DO NOT BELIEVE A SINGLE THING I SAY GO STUDY IT OUT
oh and RITO I know what you are really about stop copying the bible think of something Original you dumb asses
nothing new under the sun
Randomonium6 votesAs a member of the Navy I can tell you 100% that you see the top a ship first as it comes over the horizon. What they say about just increasing your zoom and the ship will come back into focus is completely untrue. We actually were able to calculate the distance a ship was from our ship based on how far our distance to the horizon was and how much of the ship was showing over the horizon. I've observed thousands of ships do this.
Furthermore, any pilot or sailor will tell you that if you do a long voyage you don't go due west or due east, you actually curve up north (assuming you are in the Northern Hemisphere.) The reason for this is due to the curvature of the earth its actually a shorter distance to make an arc than it is to go due west/east. For example, when we traveled from San Diego to Japan our arc took us all the way up to the same latitude as Canada. If the earth was flat then it wouldn't be economical to do this.
Finally, there are people who have crossed the Antarctic and there are people who have crossed the North Pole, proving that there is no edge to the earth.
Seriously man, follow your own advice and do some research on this stuff.
Isedelica1 votesAs a member of the Navy I can tell you 100% that you see the top a ship first as it comes over the horizon. What they say about just increasing your zoom and the ship will come back into focus is completely untrue. We actually were able to calculate the distance a ship was from our ship based on how far our distance to the horizon was and how much of the ship was showing over the horizon. I've observed thousands of ships do this.
Furthermore, any pilot or sailor will tell you that if you do a long voyage you don't go due west or due east, you actually curve up north (assuming you are in the Northern Hemisphere.) The reason for this is due to the curvature of the earth its actually a shorter distance to make an arc than it is to go due west/east. For example, when we traveled from San Diego to Japan our arc took us all the way up to the same latitude as Canada. If the earth was flat then it wouldn't be economical to do this.
Finally, there are people who have crossed the Antarctic and there are people who have crossed the North Pole, proving that there is no edge to the earth.
Seriously man, follow your own advice and do some research on this stuff.
you brought this on yourself bro so what did you base your numbers on cause this is the curvature of the earth based on the numbers NASA gave us about the size of the earth its called the Pythagorean circle earth and since you believe there telling the truth lets take a look https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ba/7c/f1/ba7cf17e305c1547b928e3a4f3e2c496.jpg
so at 100 miles away there is a 6000+ foot curve okay so NO ONE should be able to see anything from that distance, From Genoa, Italy 70 feet above sea-level, the island of Capraia 102 miles away the Island is only 1500 feet high so that leaves 5000+ feet of curvature WHY DOES EVERYONE SEE IT http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GGC65FtNOcM/Vb-R8aTeXqI/AAAAAAAAQBk/MMazD4n2qKo/s1600/corsica.jpg
as for the horizon the stronger the lens the further you see there is no curve especially if we base it on what NASA says since you trust them so much a boat leaving 20 miles should not be visible at all I have seen 20 mile boats from the beach just fine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9YXeaGITG0
now as for you sailing I do not doubt that but you are assuming all the continents look like this http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/political_world_map3000.jpg
maybe they look like this http://210.211.97.114:84/appimages/images/contents/u/n/un-flag-the-coat-of-arms-of-the-united-nations-logo-vector0.jpg
or this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RgY3jNjsB4s/maxresdefault.jpg
cause I will tell you this right now I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT PIECE OF LAND IM ON the only thing I know is that, it is called AMERICA so assuming you know the landscape is a flawed assumption and why the trip from San Diego to Japan does not mean much when you yourself do not know where you are
also i was in the Airforce A1C Fort Sam Houston Texas so yes I know what its like to travel and I have spoken to pilots myself there coming to the conclusion its flat also
and yes people have crossed the north pole BUT NO ONE HAS CROSSED ANTARCTICA I have looked all I hear are stories I want more then that especially at this point
everyone that is there is either a free mason, or Nazi scientist like this Free Mason Preist https://mospat.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2P20160217-PAL_2158-1200-1.jpg
also why is the sun only 60,000 to 100,000 feet in the air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCifLOylBhU
like I said you brought this on yourself https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-the-sun-is-93-million-miles-away-how-are-12555903.png
Randomonium6 votesLol, I brought this on myself. Brought what on myself exactly? So far all of your evidence has been pretty hilarious.
You can only see the island if you are high enough. At sea level the island is not visible. However, if you go to a higher elevation (which is obviously where the shot is taken from since you can see the top of the tallest buildings) it is entirely possible to see an island a 100 miles away. That isn't consistent with a flat earth, that is consistent with a ROUND earth.
How do you know the boats are 20 miles away? The truth is you don't. You assume they are 20 miles away when in reality they are at most a couple miles away. I can tell you from personal experience on a submarine that distance to the horizon when you only have a couple feet of periscope out of the water is less than 5,000 yards (15,000 feet.) I have watched ships of all shapes and sizes go over the horizon. There are plenty of videos which will show you the exact same thing. If the earth was flat then there would be no reason to place the bridge of a ship so high up. There would be no reason in old times to post a lookout at the top of the sails. People don't do this stuff for no reason, they do it because it increases their height of eye and allows them to see further.
For every 1 pilot who believes in a flat earth there are at least 10,000 who believe the earth is round. If its so obvious then why are you in such a huge minority? Shouldn't it be obvious?
So you're telling me that hundreds of years of cartography are all fake as are all the millions of man hours done to map the world. They're all made up. Not only is NASA a huge conspiracy but apparently every sailor and mapmaker for the last 500 years is an atheist who wants to disprove the bible. Do you have any idea how ridiculous those statements sound?
What do you mean no one has crossed Antarctica? There are people who have done it on skis lol. People have been crossing Antarctica since the 1950s. And if there really was an edge don't you think a flat earther wouldn't have gone to find it and prove it exists?
What's even more hilarious is now private companies allow you to buy a seat into space. Its not just NASA who does space exploration anymore. Any person can buy a seat for ~$250,000. You really think all these people would drop that kind of cash and then keep quiet when they didn't get to go to space? If its all a NASA hoax then how do they keep these people quiet? I'm sure there are some rich flat earthers out there. Why don't one of them take a ride up there and prove its fake? Furthermore, there are plenty of other countries with space programs. You honestly think they're all lying? Have you ever tried to have thousands of people keep a secret? Its near impossible.
Hell, there are people who have done skydives from 100,000 feet where you can clearly see the curvature of the earth.
Furthermore, Astronauts left reflectors on the moon. Any person with a powerful enough laser can get a signal from the moon, proving the reflectors are there. Yet again another thing flat earthers use could disprove the moon landings definitively and yet none of them do.
A flat earth cannot explain the movement of the sun on the horizon from season to season nor can it explain why sunrise and sunset times vary the higher you go up in Latitude or why they change with the seasons. A flat earth cannot explain why near the poles the sun never sets in the summer and never rises in the winter.
There are plenty of ways to actually prove the earth is flat and yet no flat earther is willing to do them. Why not? Why are they afraid to actually put their money where their mouth is?
P.S. the sun isn't in front of the clouds in those pictures, its just bright enough that it can penetrate some of the clouds. Are you honestly this gullible?
SEKAI4 votesApril Fools is nearly 2 weeks ago, now you're just making yourself to be a big clown. And no, you don't get to come around later and say that it's all a joke, because here all signs points to that you take your views very seriously. And it's unfortunately just plain wrong.
It's 1 thing to have a belief in something we don't yet know or not sure of as well as taking a stance in grey discussions, it's another thing however to outright deny simple facts that could be explained and proved in far more ways than you could count, mathematically or practically.
I mean hell, you could pay NASA and go to space to see for yourself now. Or you could you know, just go to the beach, climb a mountain or hop on a damn plane and see just how "flat" Earth is? By that I mean observing the horizon, and that no matter how good of a telescope you can get, you will never see the other side of the Earth without light manipulation or whatever, because it's physically out of your direct vision due to Earth's curvature.
The Earth is not flat, it's simple as that. Just as water will always be wet, the Earth will always be round, unless some meteor came along and punch a hole through it or something but even then given time it will still collapse back into a somewhat spherical shape, because that's how gravity works.
End of discussion.
Isedelica1 votesApril Fools is nearly 2 weeks ago, now you're just making yourself to be a big clown. And no, you don't get to come around later and say that it's all a joke, because here all signs points to that you take your views very seriously. And it's unfortunately just plain wrong.
It's 1 thing to have a belief in something we don't not yet know or not sure of as well as taking a stance in grey discussions, it's another thing however to outright deny simple facts that could be explained and proved in far more ways than you could count, mathematically or practically.
I mean hell, you could pay NASA and go to space yourself now. Or you could you know, just climb a damn mountain and see just how "flat" Earth is?
The Earth is not flat, it's simple as that. Just as water will always be wet, the Earth will always be round, unless some meteor came along and punch a hole through it or something but even then given time it will still collapse back into a somewhat spherical shape, because that's how gravity works.
End of discussion.
you are an idiot lol
SEKAI3 votesyou are an idiot lol
How do you explain why within the Arctic and Antarctica circle, it's a world of constant sun or night where it's either day-time for 6 months or night-time for 6 months? No, you're not going to dispute the legitimacy of this fact because a great deal amount of people either have been into the Arctic and Antarctica region, or that they simply live there, and the vast majority of which have nothing to do with any sort of research or education establishment or whatever organsation you think is evil and corrupted, and you know for a fact that it's impossible for NASA or whatever to keep all of them quiet for all this time. This leads to a conclusion, that this is simply a fact. Or again, you could just hop on a plane and go there to see the 24hr day or 24hr night for yourself, no one is going to stop you or silence you for checking out simple facts like this.
With a flat-Earth model, such phenomenon can only be explained if there are multiple suns, one that occasionally teleports (as it can't move otherwise people will notice 2 suns) to cover for the supposed Earth poles while the other cover for the normal region or something, which outside of simply labeling out how physically impossible it is, the notion of suggesting something like this happening irl is pure fantasy (fantasy isn't bad, it will be when it's confused between reality).
But in a round-Earth model, it could be easily observed, explained and demonstrated. Because Earth is rotating around the sun, and with its self-rotate axis have an angle in respect to the sun, that causes this phenomenon. I mean you could simulate this right now with a big ball and a small ball, have the big one stationary and have the small one self rotate with a 20-ish degree with respect to the ground (too keep the motion easier to manage), and have it also go around the big ball while it self-rotates. And do note, that 20-ish degree angle is not actually constant with the big ball at all times, it's only constant with itself, the axis doesn't change phase to chase after the sun as the it goes around the big ball. By doing this you will notice that for half of the rotation around the bigger ball, 1 pole of the smaller ball will always be facing the bigger ball while the other pole would be facing away from the latter, then at the other half of the rotation, the 2 poles of the small ball switch (still 1 face the big ball while the other face away from it).
This is one way to prove that Earth isn't flat without simply observing it from outer space, or somewhere without high enough altitude.
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Another way is that simply, round-Earth traveling is entirely possible and everyone does it all the time, which wouldn't be possible if the Earth is flat. Catching a plane and fly from China to Europe takes about 11-12 hours, similarly, roughly the same amount of time is required to fly between Europe and America, and again, from America to China is also roughly the same time required to fly in-between. I chose these 3 routes because anyone with some basic geographical knowledge would know, connecting these 3 points makes a circle around the Earth (here let's "assume" Earth is round).
And here is the deal, if Earth is really flat, it would be impossible for numbers to appear like this, because one of the 3 routes would require double the time of the other 2. If we assume that the Europe is the left-most side of the world and America is the right-most, there is no direct line between the left-most and right-most which would mean if one wants to fly from America to Europe they would have to fly pass China and from there to Europe, doubling the time. It doesn't matter where you cut the world up and make it flat, it's a reality that if the world is really like that then 1 of the 3 routes would take double the time of the other 2, if not more. But that isn't the case, precisely because the Earth is round, so going by the example above, American airplanes do not have to cross China, it simply goes to the other side and reach Europe directly.
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Alongside countless ways to both show and prove that Earth is round, as a matter of fact.
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Again, you could pay money to go to space, and no one will silence you for seeing Earth's shape. You could also attempt very high altitude sky-diving, then you will also see the world as curved from that high up above. You could also just observe the horizon with a telescope, and I can ensure you, no matter how high you are in altitude you will never be able to observe a nation that is plus/minus 12 hours from your current location unless you drill a hole through the Earth or something.
Again, Earth is round, what's so hard to not take it as facts? It's incredibly elementary, and very easily prove-able, and has been proved again and again and again and again and again? Why deny it?
I mean, what's even there to gain for the "evil cooperation government" to say that Earth is round or flat or whatever?
Isedelica1 votesHow do you explain why within the Arctic and Antarctica circle, it's a world of constant sun or night where it's either day-time for 6 months or night-time for 6 months? No, you're not going to dispute the legitimacy of this fact because a great deal amount of people either have been into the Arctic and Antarctica region, or that they simply live there, and the vast majority of which have nothing to do with any sort of research or education establishment or whatever organsation you think is evil and corrupted, and you know for a fact that it's impossible for NASA or whatever to keep all of them quiet for all this time. This leads to a conclusion, that this is simply a fact. Or again, you could just hop on a plane and go there to see the 24hr day or 24hr night for yourself, no one is going to stop you or silence you for checking out simple facts like this.
With a flat-Earth model, such phenomenon can only be explained if there are multiple suns, one that occasionally teleports (as it can't move otherwise people will notice 2 suns) to cover for the supposed Earth poles while the other cover for the normal region or something, which outside of simply labeling out how physically impossible it is, the notion of suggesting something like this happening irl is pure fantasy (fantasy isn't bad, it will be when it's confused between reality).
But in a round-Earth model, it could be easily observed, explained and demonstrated. Because Earth is rotating around the sun, and with its self-rotate axis have an angle in respect to the sun, that causes this phenomenon. I mean you could simulate this right now with a big ball and a small ball, have the big one stationary and have the small one self rotate with a 20-ish degree with respect to the ground (too keep the motion easier to manage), and have it also go around the big ball while it self-rotates. And do note, that 20-ish degree angle is not actually constant with the big ball at all times, it's only constant with itself, the axis doesn't change phase to chase after the sun as the it goes around the big ball. By doing this you will notice that for half of the rotation around the bigger ball, 1 pole of the smaller ball will always be facing the bigger ball while the other pole would be facing away from the latter, then at the other half of the rotation, the 2 poles of the small ball switch (still 1 face the big ball while the other face away from it).
This is one way to prove that Earth isn't flat without simply observing it from outer space, or somewhere without high enough altitude.
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Another way is that simply, round-Earth traveling is entirely possible and everyone does it all the time, which wouldn't be possible if the Earth is flat. Catching a plane and fly from China to Europe takes about 11-12 hours, similarly, roughly the same amount of time is required to fly between Europe and America, and again, from America to China is also roughly the same time required to fly in-between. I chose these 3 routes because anyone with some basic geographical knowledge would know, connecting these 3 points makes a circle around the Earth (here let's "assume" Earth is round).
And here is the deal, if Earth is really flat, it would be impossible for numbers to appear like this, because one of the 3 routes would require double the time of the other 2. If we assume that the Europe is the left-most side of the world and America is the right-most, there is no direct line between the left-most and right-most which would mean if one wants to fly from America to Europe they would have to fly pass China and from there to Europe, doubling the time. It doesn't matter where you cut the world up and make it flat, it's a reality that if the world is really like that then 1 of the 3 routes would take double the time of the other 2, if not more. But that isn't the case, precisely because the Earth is round, so going by the example above, American airplanes do not have to cross China, it simply goes to the other side and reach Europe directly.
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Alongside countless ways to both show and prove that Earth is round, as a matter of fact.
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Again, you could pay money to go to space, and no one will silence you for seeing Earth's shape. You could also attempt very high altitude sky-diving, then you will also see the world as curved from that high up above. You could also just observe the horizon with a telescope, and I can ensure you, no matter how high you are in altitude you will never be able to observe a nation that is plus/minus 12 hours from your current location unless you drill a hole through the Earth or something.
Again, Earth is round, what's so hard to not take it as facts? It's incredibly elementary, and very easily prove-able, and has been proved again and again and again and again and again? Why deny it?
I mean, what's even there to gain for the "evil cooperation government" to say that Earth is round or flat or whatever?
dude ill keep this simple the sun rotates and extends out to Antarctica and rotates around that's why they get 6 months and there is no south pole
now north pole it moves in closer and rotates that's it not hard thats why we have changing time periods ever year
SEKAI1 votesdude ill keep this simple the sun rotates and extends out to Antarctica and rotates around that's why they get 6 months and there is no south pole
now north pole it moves in closer and rotates that's it not hard thats why we have changing time periods ever year
This literally makes no sense. First and foremost, I have 0 idea what model what you're even trying to build here because nothing adds up.
Firstly, Antarctica is the south pole, which you seem to got the name wrong. Arctic and Antarctica, north and south, how do you get them mixed?
Secondly, on what basis do you say that there is no south pole? Where do you think the penguins live? What, are the penguins that live in Antarctica fake and a part of conspiracy too? Or that everyone who'd been to Antarctica either for research or merely for travel, all fake as well? Do you realise how big of a claim that is? Can I say that Europe doesn't exist because I've never personally been there or something along those lines? Logic and rationality doesn't work this way, we could verify information based on a lot of things, and there based on all the info we have over centuries there is very little reason to deny its (Antarctica) existence.
Thirdly, seasons can never happen if sun rotates the Earth, because there is only 1 motion sequence and thus there will only be day-night cycles and it will be uniform across the entire world, ie it would be impossible for the 6 month day/night situation to happen in the poles of the Earth. Seasons is only possible if there is another separate motion sequence that could allow the same region to gain different exposure to the sun, which only happens because the Earth rotates around the sun at a fixed angle with respect to itself, while self-rotating. The self-rotating creates days and going around the sun creates seasons/years. This is also why in different seasons the sun's path changes and day-time either extend or reduce depending on the time of the year. And similarly the 6 month day and 6 month night happen at the Earth's poles is only possible due to this reason. Sure I guess going by the idea of general relativity one could make the argument that it doesn't really matter if it's Earth that's going around the sun or the other way around, but then again you will have to accept the round-Earth first before you could even make that argument (it will be its own topic and I can't be bothered to explain, but have a think you will realise why).
And do note, while I use "for this reason" a lot, there is most likely no reason for any of the phenomena happening, it is just there because a series of coincidences between inanimate objects' motions and then here we are, studying how what we see came to be.
Instead of pushing for ideas like north poles actually moving to chase the sun (or the other way around) or whatnot like epics from good o' Greek mythology or whatever, why not see it as a big burning boulder and a small peanut-sized rock flying in near vacuum as they are? Again, what I'd just said could be physically observed and confirmed. We're no longer just sitting around speculating and theorising this, we can actually see all of it in motion ourselves and prove that indeed the round-Earth model is correct. There is nothing fake with that.
I don't get it, why do you have to go so far to claim that the Earth is flat, to the extent that you more or less make up a world of your own personal outlook and its own set of mechanics just to keep that idea afloat, and any and every theoretical as well as practical correction that are all completely different in approach but retain consistent results are to be dismissed as hoax or deliberate manipulations from some vague evil entity? What even is so bad to acknowledge the elementary fact that the Earth is round, just like any other planet out there?
Isedelica1 votesThis literally makes no sense. First and foremost, I have 0 idea what model what you're even trying to build here because nothing adds up.
Firstly, Antarctica is the south pole, which you seem to got the name wrong. Arctic and Antarctica, north and south, how do you get them mixed?
Secondly, on what basis do you say that there is no south pole? Where do you think the penguins live? What, are the penguins that live in Antarctica fake and a part of conspiracy too? Or that everyone who'd been to Antarctica either for research or merely for travel, all fake as well? Do you realise how big of a claim that is? Can I say that Europe doesn't exist because I've never personally been there or something along those lines? Logic and rationality doesn't work this way, we could verify information based on a lot of things, and there based on all the info we have over centuries there is very little reason to deny its (Antarctica) existence.
Thirdly, seasons can never happen if sun rotates the Earth, because there is only 1 motion sequence and thus there will only be day-night cycles and it will be uniform across the entire world, ie it would be impossible for the 6 month day/night situation to happen in the poles of the Earth. Seasons is only possible if there is another separate motion sequence that could allow the same region to gain different exposure to the sun, which only happens because the Earth rotates around the sun at a fixed angle with respect to itself, while self-rotating. The self-rotating creates days and going around the sun creates seasons/years. This is also why in different seasons the sun's path changes and day-time either extend or reduce depending on the time of the year. And similarly the 6 month day and 6 month night happen at the Earth's poles is only possible due to this reason. Sure I guess going by the idea of general relativity one could make the argument that it doesn't really matter if it's Earth that's going around the sun or the other way around, but then again you will have to accept the round-Earth first before you could even make that argument (it will be its own topic and I can't be bothered to explain, but have a think you will realise why).
And do note, while I use "for this reason" a lot, there is most likely no reason for any of the phenomena happening, it is just there because a series of coincidences between inanimate objects' motions and then here we are, studying how what we see came to be.
Instead of pushing for ideas like north poles actually moving to chase the sun (or the other way around) or whatnot like epics from good o' Greek mythology or whatever, why not see it as a big burning boulder and a small peanut-sized rock flying in near vacuum as they are? Again, what I'd just said could be physically observed and confirmed. We're no longer just sitting around speculating and theorising this, we can actually see all of it in motion ourselves and prove that indeed the round-Earth model is correct. There is nothing fake with that.
I don't get it, why do you have to go so far to claim that the Earth is flat, to the extent that you more or less make up a world of your own personal outlook and its own set of mechanics just to keep that idea afloat, and any and every theoretical as well as practical correction that are all completely different in approach but retain consistent results are to be dismissed as hoax or deliberate manipulations from some vague evil entity? What even is so bad to acknowledge the elementary fact that the Earth is round, just like any other planet out there?
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SEKAI1 voteshttps://1888.org/images/2015/12/16/20430/ae-equidistant-projection-flat-earth.png
This model wouldn't work precisely because it is flat.
If the sun is spinning around this coin-like world or that this world is spinning itself next to the sun like a coin would spin, then the Earth's pole wouldn't have half-year-long days and nights because it would have the same day-night cycle as any other places.
If we add an extra dimension and say that this coin-like world is also doing a rotation around the sun while self-flipping, then with a couple simulations (mental in your head and practical with tokens) one could quickly realise that there is no possible scenario where the poles could experience half-year-long days or night while the rest of the world enjoys a relatively normal 24hr day-night cycle with maybe some offset due to latitude and the time of the year (that which we could very easily observe here in our world) in this case.
If the sun is going around on top of this flat world in a circle, then this world has no night time, because it's flat, and the light will always reach all the corners of this world unless obstructed by tall mountains. But we know that night is not caused by tall mountains' shadows, nor is there any mountain in this world high enough to create shadows so big it could cover countries and continents as well as other big mountains like Mt. Everest. If you're suggesting the Earth poles to be this absolutely colossal mountain that exists like the pointer of this Earth sundial, then you're wrong, there is no such mountain in this world, anyone could prove this by looking. Not to mention time doesn't work that way anyway as half of the world is always at night while the other is at day and this model can't achieve so.
Either way, this model is impossible. Again, I used the properties of Earth's day-night cycles to explain because it's one of the definite proofs, without simply looking from space, that Earth has to be round. Not flat, square, pyramid, or whatever, it has to be relatively around either as a general sphere or a general ellipsoid (Earth is actually slightly elliptical due to its rotation).
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Again, the Earth's shape could be easily proven by simply looking at it from high altitude, be it high enough to to extreme sky-dive or so high you need a space-suit, doesn't matter. With that height, anyone could see the Earth being curved at the "edges", ie the horizon, from what their direct vision-line could see, proving Earth being round.
Even before the legend of Jesus from 2000 years ago (I am not saying either Jesus is real or not real, idc), people had already utilised a myriads of ways to suggest and imply that the Earth was possibly round. Ever since then, we theoretically proved that Earth is round, then humans actually went into space to see it for themselves. Now after countless manned and un-manned space missions of whatever kind that were sponsored and conducted by completely different organisations with completely different goals and possibly conflicting agenda, with countless individuals witnessing the proof that Earth is round across the world and history (direct or indirect), on top of centuries of human knowledge from all groups all over the world and all of the discoveries as well as inventions with relation to the matter, are all of them completely fake?
Hell, know that long ranged snipers have to take the Earth's rotation into consideration before they pull the shot (alongside countless other factors, for accuracy reasons)? This is called the Coriolis effect, and it means the Earth is a spinning ball. Why would you think it's a part of the military discipline if it's completely false and made-up and a lie?
And many other things we could very easily mention (which I alongside many others, have already done)?
We are not sitting around speculating it, we now know precisely how the Earth looks like. There is no reason to deny simple, easily prove-able, and that has been proved in countless ways, both theoretical and practical, facts like this. There is just none. It's like you're denying that pretty girls do still need to poop or something (yes they do), it's just not right. It's 1 thing to question the legitimacy of something, it's however another to outright be dismissing a tried-and-true and proven-to-death fact.
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EDIT: that map you've provided is simply a view of the Earth, which by now we should have already established to be round and either spherical or ellipsoidal (just as we've established that pretty girls do still poop), from its north pole.
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EDIT2: ANYWAY THATS ENOUGH MEME AND GAMES, LETS GET BACK TO WORK
Isedelica1 votesThis model wouldn't work precisely because it is flat.
If the sun is spinning around this coin-like world or that this world is spinning itself next to the sun like a coin would spin, then the Earth's pole wouldn't have half-year-long days and nights because it would have the same day-night cycle as any other places.
If we add an extra dimension and say that this coin-like world is also doing a rotation around the sun while self-flipping, then with a couple simulations (mental in your head and practical with tokens) one could quickly realise that there is no possible scenario where the poles could experience half-year-long days or night while the rest of the world enjoys a relatively normal 24hr day-night cycle with maybe some offset due to latitude and the time of the year (that which we could very easily observe here in our world) in this case.
If the sun is going around on top of this flat world in a circle, then this world has no night time, because it's flat, and the light will always reach all the corners of this world unless obstructed by tall mountains. But we know that night is not caused by tall mountains' shadows, nor is there any mountain in this world high enough to create shadows so big it could cover countries and continents as well as other big mountains like Mt. Everest. If you're suggesting the Earth poles to be this absolutely colossal mountain that exists like the pointer of this Earth sundial, then you're wrong, there is no such mountain in this world, anyone could prove this by looking. Not to mention time doesn't work that way anyway as half of the world is always at night while the other is at day and this model can't achieve so.
Either way, this model is impossible. Again, I used the properties of Earth's day-night cycles to explain because it's one of the definite proofs, without simply looking from space, that Earth has to be round. Not flat, square, pyramid, or whatever, it has to be relatively around either as a general sphere or a general ellipsoid (Earth is actually slightly elliptical due to its rotation).
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Again, the Earth's shape could be easily proven by simply looking at it from high altitude, be it high enough to to extreme sky-dive or so high you need a space-suit, doesn't matter. With that height, anyone could see the Earth being curved at the "edges", ie the horizon, from what their direct vision-line could see, proving Earth being round.
Even before the legend of Jesus from 2000 years ago (I am not saying either Jesus is real or not real, idc), people had already utilised a myriads of ways to suggest and imply that the Earth was possibly round. Ever since then, we theoretically proved that Earth is round, then humans actually went into space to see it for themselves. Now after countless manned and un-manned space missions of whatever kind that were sponsored and conducted by completely different organisations with completely different goals and possibly conflicting agenda, with countless individuals witnessing the proof that Earth is round across the world and history (direct or indirect), on top of centuries of human knowledge from all groups all over the world and all of the discoveries as well as inventions with relation to the matter, are all of them completely fake?
Hell, know that long ranged snipers have to take the Earth's rotation into consideration before they pull the shot (alongside countless other factors, for accuracy reasons)? This is called the Coriolis effect, and it means the Earth is a spinning ball. Why would you think it's a part of the military discipline if it's completely false and made-up and a lie?
And many other things we could very easily mention (which I alongside many others, have already done)?
We are not sitting around speculating it, we now know precisely how the Earth looks like. There is no reason to deny simple, easily prove-able, and that has been proved in countless ways, both theoretical and practical, facts like this. There is just none. It's like you're denying that pretty girls do still need to poop or something (yes they do), it's just not right. It's 1 thing to question the legitimacy of something, it's however another to outright be dismissing a tried-and-true and proven-to-death fact.
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EDIT: that map you've provided is simply a view of the Earth, which by now we should have already established to be round and either spherical or ellipsoidal (just as we've established that pretty girls do still poop), from its north pole.
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EDIT2: ANYWAY THATS ENOUGH MEME AND GAMES, LETS GET BACK TO WORK
of course it can the sun extends out and extends in as it rotates as for the south pole it does not exist only the north pole the south pole is the ice wall, and thats why we have a change in hours ever year not hard https://planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ice-wall-21.jpg
https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-23-2015/TfdoW8.gif
you are assuming the sun is big nope its small and only 60,000 to 100,000 feet in the air so no issue there also im reading a lot of assumptions PHYSICAL EVIDENCE FOR YOUR WORDS PLEASE IF NOT YOUR WORDS ARE WORTHLESS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCifLOylBhU
and you mean sky diving like this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTKxz-gVEAIA3td.jpg
or this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0a/fe/1f/0afe1fc61f406c22546b86368725cee6.jpg
I WAS IN THE MILITARY ONCE the Coriolis effect I NEVER TOOK IT INTO ACCOUNT EVER!! its not real go look up stories of people saying not just me
and the Bible writings are 5000 to 6000 years old they where scrolls then put in a book later on
you can look for yourself and do the math plus there is only 5000 to 6000 years of written history so far
the rest is speculation and please do not say carbon dating if you do I will call you stupid
http://www.wiseoldgoat.com/images-cse/cse-part1_slides/Slide303.jpg
and yes my GOD is beyond the firmament https://flatearthscienceandbible.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/img_0039-1.jpeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcp3BFBYw4&t=9s
DO ME A FAVOR STOP TALKING BRING ME EVIDENCE I CAN SEE IF NOT YOUR WORDS ARE WORTHLESS
The Mighty Bison1 votesDoes anyone else not realize this guy is disproving himself with the gif. He's trying to argue that places in the world could experience 6 months darkness/light with a flat earth and then posts a gif that goes to prove that is completely not true.
If you look at this, the only model he provided that he argued for so much for. The sun moves away from ever place on the earth. There isn't a single place that experiences even one entire day of sun. As that sun rotates around its path it cast light on every part of the earth but it does just stop and shine on one part for 6 months which we know is the truth. Shit I was in the Finland recently and experienced 24hrs of day light it was amazing, but there is no way the stupid dinky model you just put up explains that.
Furthermore your conspiracy is so large in scale that billions of people would have to cover up. You're basically saying every country with a space program (China, many in europe, Iran, Isreal, North Korea, South Korea, India, Japan, United States, France, Ukraine, & Russia), you're also saying that every company that has ever shot a rocket in to space for communication or other purposes such as google earth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communication_satellite_companies This is a link to every company that has satellites. Yet none of them have said anything either. What the shit would even be the point, we're not holding onto anything by convincing people its round.
And what is laughable about that point is some of those countries aren't Christian countries trying to keep a secret. Do you honestly believe North Korea wouldn't jump at the chance to prove the whole world wrong about something? Do you not think Iran would love to tell all of western culture they are wrong. Yet they don't, why? Because the world is round, there is literally no reason for political enemies to keep up the same lie, especially when your political enemy (Korea) doesn't have a religion that teaches the world is flat. So if they all of a sudden found it was of course they'd tell the whole world. To further that even more, if the world was flat then Korea didn't have to spend all this time trying to design a rocket that would hit the US, they would have just needed to load a rocket with enough fuel to fly in a straight line there. Instead because the world is round they cant and had to learn to design rockets that could be shot into space, dislodge a compartment, have that compartment re-enter the atmosphere and hit its target. If the world was flat North Korea likely would have already nuked the US because it would be really easy to make a missile that flies straight.
So basically you're saying about 1000 years of cartography and shipping routes are wrong. 1000s of years of peoples experiences are wrong, including those who challenged themselves to cross the south pole, then not only that but about a billion people working for governments and private companies are all somehow being paid to keep their mouth shut about it? If the earth was flat then there would be no need for XM radio and Sirius radio to have 3 dedicated North American satellites so that there is always 2 above NA, if the earth was flat they could just send 1 and have it sit directly above the US, or from where it was in space if it did move around the "firmament" it would always have a direct shot at the US and still would only require 1 not 3.
But anyways, please keep providing your proofs that disprove your own point, its funny that way.
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Mighty Bison,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=000b00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-03T15:33:23.023+0000)
Does anyone else not realize this guy is disproving himself with the gif. He's trying to argue that places in the world could experience 6 months darkness/light with a flat earth and then posts a gif that goes to prove that is completely not true.
If you look at this, the only model he provided that he argued for so much for. The sun moves away from ever place on the earth. There isn't a single place that experiences even one entire day of sun. As that sun rotates around its path it cast light on every part of the earth but it does just stop and shine on one part for 6 months which we know is the truth. Shit I was in the Finland recently and experienced 24hrs of day light it was amazing, but there is no way the stupid dinky model you just put up explains that.
Furthermore your conspiracy is so large in scale that billions of people would have to cover up. You're basically saying every country with a space program (China, many in europe, Iran, Isreal, North Korea, South Korea, India, Japan, United States, France, Ukraine, & Russia), you're also saying that every company that has ever shot a rocket in to space for communication or other purposes such as google earth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communication_satellite_companies This is a link to every company that has satellites. Yet none of them have said anything either. What the shit would even be the point, we're not holding onto anything by convincing people its round.
And what is laughable about that point is some of those countries aren't Christian countries trying to keep a secret. Do you honestly believe North Korea wouldn't jump at the chance to prove the whole world wrong about something? Do you not think Iran would love to tell all of western culture they are wrong. Yet they don't, why? Because the world is round, there is literally no reason for political enemies to keep up the same lie, especially when your political enemy (Korea) doesn't have a religion that teaches the world is flat. So if they all of a sudden found it was of course they'd tell the whole world. To further that even more, if the world was flat then Korea didn't have to spend all this time trying to design a rocket that would hit the US, they would have just needed to load a rocket with enough fuel to fly in a straight line there. Instead because the world is round they cant and had to learn to design rockets that could be shot into space, dislodge a compartment, have that compartment re-enter the atmosphere and hit its target. If the world was flat North Korea likely would have already nuked the US because it would be really easy to make a missile that flies straight.
So basically you're saying about 1000 years of cartography and shipping routes are wrong. 1000s of years of peoples experiences are wrong, including those who challenged themselves to cross the south pole, then not only that but about a billion people working for governments and private companies are all somehow being paid to keep their mouth shut about it? If the earth was flat then there would be no need for XM radio and Sirius radio to have 3 dedicated North American satellites so that there is always 2 above NA, if the earth was flat they could just send 1 and have it sit directly above the US, or from where it was in space if it did move around the "firmament" it would always have a direct shot at the US and still would only require 1 not 3.
But anyways, please keep providing your proofs that disprove your own point, its funny that way.
BRING PHYSICAL EVIDENCE TO A DEBATE IDIOT
they would have just needed to load a rocket with enough fuel to fly in a straight line there ( YOUR WORDS NOT MINE)
LIKE THIS ROCKET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcp3BFBYw4&t=55s
NO ITS VERY SMALL the amount of people is probably only a few thousand
https://taboodada.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/byrd-richard-e-rear-admiral-usn.jpg
5000 max in my opinion because they set rules in place that restrict people
go look at the Antarctic Treaty, also they created lies, that we as the people believe example Antarctica is an ice waste land, yet Admiral Byrd said live on TV that its full of resources after 20+ years of exploring the place, then out of no where they close off ANTARCTIC AND EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY AGREES AND ITS STILL GOING STRONG they just added another 35 years to it lol fucking liars
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YsnvrCoE2JA/sddefault.jpg
and think about it why would the mechanic need to know anything about the lie?!?!?!?!?! just pay him to do his job and there not hard
most of the people at NASA have no idea whats going on only a few
http://robschannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/NASA-deceive.jpg
and lets assume there telling the truth about it being dark for 6 months all the sun would have to do is move closer to the center for that to happen not hard, but I don't believe it anyway based off the sources there is no 6 months of darkness
AND HERE IS NOT THE FULL LIST OF COUNTRIES BUT MOST OF THEM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System
Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Chile, France, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, South Africa, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States and yes so are the ones you mentioned they where all in Antarctica before all of them went home and formed the space programs you can do the research yourself
https://www.bas.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Treaty-flags_master_52-flags_May15-652x552.jpg
then right after they close off Antarctica they shoot nuclear missiles into the sky WHY??? whats the point??? here is the video so I can back up my case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jVJR9zSEs&t=61s
and what do I do with this video of a satellite falling from the sky with a balloon attached to it??!?!?!?!? aren't they suppose to be in space floating????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiq6Pggfy4&t=4s
no there not being paid to keep there mouth shut there THEY ARE GIVING THEM THE OPTION YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DIE OR SHUT UP AND NEVER SPEAK OF THIS there not gonna pay them lol especially if they know
and no cause the cartographers of the ancient past also mapped out this world and there maps are so different from ares
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THIS IS THE UNITED NATIONS FLAG
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midnight oil241 votesHOLY CRAP THAT WAS THE BEST SCIENTIFIC COMEBACK EVER! Props to you, buddy [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=000b000000000002,timestamp=2017-04-13T02:53:02.257+0000)
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS THE BEST SCIENTIFIC COMEBACK EVER! Props to you, buddy [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
I forgot you do not studied cause you lack knowledge my bad I have to explain everything
this is what happens when angels and humans have sex
Genesis 6:4 there where giants in the earth in those days and also after that when the sons of GOD came into the daughters of men and bare children to them http://www.6000years.org/graphics/arabiangiantman.jpg
https://calmcrash.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/a-giant-skeleton-eighteen-feet-tall.jpg
https://www.sott.net/image/s6/128208/full/giant_mound_builder.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c4/26/a7/c426a7e32d9881f7d4703df4d542332c.jpg
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http://www.talkpundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/footprint-31.jpg
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http://www.bibleandscience.com/science/images/footprint2.jpg
And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood
http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/Upload_Attack_on_Titan_21L2GR4_By_KingZer.jpg
and as for SODOM AND GOMORRAH
gay couple covered in ashe and sulfer burnt alive http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/sodom.jpg
https://josh99smith.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/a_harappa1.jpg
the whole place is covered in ashe and sulfer http://infoserve700.com/pics/sodom125.jpg
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] and I know I'm very scientific you do not have to praise me calm down
TakeAGuessNerd3 votesdude, you're so delusional, you refuse to accept any facts at all, facts that are supported by over a century of geographical research. And all you have are some shitty quality videos.
Isedelica1 votesdude, you're so delusional, you refuse to accept any facts at all, facts that are supported by over a century of geographical research. And all you have are some shitty quality videos.
bring me physical evidence videos, pictures something that is not CGI related never happens even random has not sent me anything real just a CGI video with a bunch of wrong data
Blade of Justic3 votesShouldn't I just ask any astrophysicist what shape the Earth is?
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-11T15:07:00.754+0000)
Shouldn't I just ask any astrophysicist what shape the Earth is?
what would they know they have never been to space themselves they just talk about it and look at the sky not just that but all astrophysicist are Jesuit Ordered and trained i hate occultist
here is a list for pretty much the last 500 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jesuit_scientists
Blade of Justic4 voteswhat would they know they have never been to space themselves they just talk about it and look at the sky not just that but all astrophysicist are Jesuit Ordered and trained i hate occultist
Then shouldn't I just ask any astronaut what shape the Earth is?
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-11T15:34:06.405+0000)
Then shouldn't I just ask any astronaut what shape the Earth is?
CHALLENGER ROCKET 7 ASTRONAUTS SUPPOSEDLY DIED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4JOjcDFtBE
THEY WHERE FOUND ALIVE YEARS LATER THEY NEVER WENT TO SPACE
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/challenger_flight_51-l_crew.jpg
Oleandervine1 votesCHALLENGER ROCKET 7 ASTRONAUTS SUPPOSEDLY DIED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4JOjcDFtBE
THEY WHERE FOUND ALIVE YEARS LATER THEY NEVER WENT TO SPACE
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/challenger_flight_51-l_crew.jpg
By this logic, Keanu Reeves is over 500 years old. http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Keanu-Reeves-Is-He-Immortal.jpg
Isedelica1 votesBy this logic, Keanu Reeves is over 500 years old. http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Keanu-Reeves-Is-He-Immortal.jpg
no that's stupid logic you are trolling with in 500 years there dead cause within a few years they where found alive and now 30 years have passed since then common sense it was a lie millions of taxes dollars spent on a lie have fun bro
midnight oil243 votesHow the hell are the copying the bible besides having two angel champions? Does the bible have swearing rodents riding lizards (I know kled isn't a rodent)? Does it have tree men? Does it have mermaids? Does it have sexy plant ladies? Does it have small, pyromaniacal children? Are there shotgun wielders? Does it have star dragons, earth mages, revived emperors, anubis, Sobek, raven men, frost archers, etc.?
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-11T16:50:08.875+0000)
How the hell are the copying the bible besides having two angel champions? Does the bible have swearing rodents riding lizards (I know kled isn't a rodent)? Does it have tree men? Does it have mermaids? Does it have sexy plant ladies? Does it have small, pyromaniacal children? Are there shotgun wielders? Does it have star dragons, earth mages, revived emperors, anubis, Sobek, raven men, frost archers, etc.?
yes it does let me show you do not test me on ancient history
Centuries ago, Lissandra betrayed her tribe to evil creatures, known as the Frozen Watchers, in return for power. That was the last day that warm blood ran through her veins. With her corrupted tribesmen and the strength of the Watchers, she swept across the land like a terrible blizzard. As her empire spread, the world grew colder and ice choked the land. When the Watchers were defeated by ancient heroes, Lissandra did not lose faith and swore to prepare the world for their return.
ENOCH BOOK OF THE WATCHERS And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood
BIBLE GENESIS 6:4 There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them http://www.6000years.org/graphics/arabiangiantman.jpg
WHO ARE THE SONS OF GOD
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them
SO SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS HAD SEX WITH THE WOMEN OF THE EARTH
midnight oil241 votesSo... because there's a book called "the book of watchers" which is, as far as I can tell, about people getting it on with Satan and his followers (I see nothing wrong with that. Satan's a pretty chill dude), and then some giants killing people, that a character who's backstory involves things called "the frozen watchers" who just cover the world in ice and give kickass Ice powers to people, League is ripping off the bible?
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-04-11T17:19:16.429+0000)
So... because there's a book called "the book of watchers" which is, as far as I can tell, about people getting it on with Satan and his followers (I see nothing wrong with that. Satan's a pretty chill dude), and then some giants killing people, that a character who's backstory involves things called "the frozen watchers" who just cover the world in ice and give kickass Ice powers to people, League is ripping off the bible?
DUDE EVERYTHING YOU SEE COMES FROM THE BIBLE THEY WORSHIP SATAN
GENESIS 6;4 There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pttxERqOg04/maxresdefault.jpg
http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/Upload_Attack_on_Titan_21L2GR4_By_KingZer.jpg
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https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4b0ab77bb54f8f9254b18e38b4a923d0-c
midnight oil242 votesBut... for years the Japanese didn't know the bible existed. Nor did the Indians, nor the Inuit. You telling me that Kumbhakarna, a giant, was taken from the bible? Or that Amaterasu, a sun god, was taken from the bible? Oh, and don't get me started with guys like Cthulhu. You think Cthulhu was taken from the bible? That's a laugh.
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-11T17:51:51.151+0000)
But... for years the Japanese didn't know the bible existed. Nor did the Indians, nor the Inuit. You telling me that Kumbhakarna, a giant, was taken from the bible? Or that Amaterasu, a sun god, was taken from the bible? Oh, and don't get me started with guys like Cthulhu. You think Cthulhu was taken from the bible? That's a laugh.
do you know how old the writings of the bible are there 5000 to 6000 years old they where put into a book later on but they where scrolls before they became a Bible yes all of it was taken from the Bible
https://thesecondachilles.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/image.jpg Zeus and the gods came down from Olympus raped the women there was no consent and gave birth to the titans
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/f/f2/Jotun_01_concept_art.jpg/300px-Jotun_01_concept_art.jpg Thor and the gods raped the women and gave birth to the Jotun
Annunaki came down raped the women gave birth to the giants http://ancientexplorers.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/03/Anunnaki_humankind-e1429106755451.jpg
Kebra Nagast And the daughters of Cain with whom the angels had companied conceived, but they were unable to bring forth their children, and they died. And of the children who were in their wombs some died, and some came forth; having split open the bellies of their mothers they came forth by their navels. And when they were grown up and reached man's estate they became giants http://static.srcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Aliens-Movie-Chestburster.jpg
midnight oil241 votesBut they didn't KNOW THE BIBLE EXISTED. It's a running theme in religions, for some reason, but that's it.
Also, the titans aren't the sons of the gods. Here's how it goes:
Terra (I think that's her name) and Uranus somehow give birth to the titans. Eventually, after some weird stuff happens, Uranus gets castrated. Cronus then takes his sister, Rhea, as his wife (it was greek mytholgy. Weird stuff happened.). Eventually, Cronus has the greek gods as his kids. However, rememberign what he'd done to his father and fearing his kids would do the same, he ate each kid. This pissed Rhea off. When Zeus was born, she tricked Cronus and took Zeus away. Then, years later, Zeus shows up, drugs Cronus so Cronus throws up Zeus's brothers and sisters, and then goes to war with the titans. Eventually, the gods win. Yeah, Zeus was kinda Rapey, but that came later, and often involved animals. Again, it was greek mythology.
But see? Nothing like Bible stuff going on there.
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-11T18:11:59.109+0000)
But they didn't KNOW THE BIBLE EXISTED. It's a running theme in religions, for some reason, but that's it.
Also, the titans aren't the sons of the gods. Here's how it goes:
Terra (I think that's her name) and Uranus somehow give birth to the titans. Eventually, after some weird stuff happens, Uranus gets castrated. Cronus then takes his sister, Rhea, as his wife (it was greek mytholgy. Weird stuff happened.). Eventually, Cronus has the greek gods as his kids. However, rememberign what he'd done to his father and fearing his kids would do the same, he ate each kid. This pissed Rhea off. When Zeus was born, she tricked Cronus and took Zeus away. Then, years later, Zeus shows up, drugs Cronus so Cronus throws up Zeus's brothers and sisters, and then goes to war with the titans. Eventually, the gods win. Yeah, Zeus was kinda Rapey, but that came later, and often involved animals. Again, it was greek mythology.
But see? Nothing like Bible stuff going on there.
exactly it involved animals and humans THE CORRUPTION OF EVERYTHING GOD CREATED, SAME CHAPTER AFTER THEY RAPED THE WOMEN IN GENESIS 6:4
GENESIS 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth
HOW
Book of Jasher, Chapter 4 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals. https://citiesoflight.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/sargons-gatekeepers.jpg
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THIS WAS ONE EVENT IT ALL HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME
AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH SO SHALL IT BE AT THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN
midnight oil241 votesSee, I personally find that to be untrue. The very notion of a "god" is ridiculous to me because that implies that humanity is more than a piece of garbage on a backwater planet hurtling through an uncaring void. Which is what we are.
Also, The bible's kinda messed up. There's a character rewrite for god about halfway through, because the marketing department realized that having a murderous main character wasn't really working, but they missed out on some character developmetn. Instead there was that whole "jesus arc" where god suddenly becomes super benevolent? What happened? Why'd he become nice? It makes no sense!
Isedelica1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ztgEHhAd,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-11T19:09:42.427+0000)
See, I personally find that to be untrue. The very notion of a "god" is ridiculous to me because that implies that humanity is more than a piece of garbage on a backwater planet hurtling through an uncaring void. Which is what we are.
Also, The bible's kinda messed up. There's a character rewrite for god about halfway through, because the marketing department realized that having a murderous main character wasn't really working, but they missed out on some character developmetn. Instead there was that whole "jesus arc" where god suddenly becomes super benevolent? What happened? Why'd he become nice? It makes no sense!
well this is the world you live in so GOD exist he is beyond the firmament you don't have a choice in the matter https://flatearthscienceandbible.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/img_0039-1.jpeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcp3BFBYw4&t=3s
also what verse is GOD super evil I wanna hear this lol everyone always gets it wrong
midnight oil241 votesIt was kind of fun arguing with you at first. Now it's just you saying that I ahve to "live with god existing" when there's no evidence ot back it up. Also, old testament god smote the shit out of people. Sinners, sure, but they still had friends and family, and I don't think "god" should get to make that call.
But yeah. Go ahead, think that god exists. I'm gonna be over here, blissful because I'm focusing on this life instead of worrying about some "next plane."
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesJeez. People like that give religious people a bad name.
midnight oil242 votesOh, so true. I have a number of religious friends, but the difference between tehm and this guy is that they don't force me to believe that god exists. They accept that, since there is no scientific explanation for god, I do not believe in it. They don't pester me. This guy, on the other hand, is just like "you don't believe in god? Well you're wrong."
TyrekGoldenspear3 votesNot to mention I cringed so hard after reading his posts, because he uses half of the Bible's quotes incorrectly/takes them out of context and twists them to serve his own needs in this "argument."
As someone who actually knows about this stuff, if he took half of the stuff in the Bible actually seriously, he wouldn't be a flat-earther anyway.
Not to mention so much in his posts are false I wonder if he's trolling.
MrPlantarbre3 votesWhy do we care anyway. if someone is hypocrite enough to blindly trust every single technological thing around them, and then pretend scientists and engineers are liars, what's the point in talking ? Just /ignore.
Isedelica1 votesSO LOOK AT MY EVIDENCE COMPARED TO YOUR WORDS
so the Island is 102 miles away 6000+ feet of curve the Island is 1500 feet tall plus the 70 plus feet
1570 you still have a curve of 5000 feet there is no excuse for seeing that Island if you wanna lie to yourself good luck
the reason it is not obvious is cause EVERYONE HAS BEEN LIED TO AS KIDS and they believe what they where told and yes the hundred of years cartography are fake but no not everyone faked it some people did the best they could with what they had but yes there are real people in the occult WHO WILL LIE ON PURPOSE and of you think that is crazy guess what I believe in GOD so them Believing in Satan should not be hard to believe
and some people noticed it and they brought it up they realized something was wrong with the maps eve some of the flight paths where not making sense look it up
the Antarctic treaty yes people go to ski and see penguins THAT'S IT but it is closed off and they all agreed on it THE WORLD so you can only go in the limits they allow and you know there are ships around Antarctica so sneaking in would be hard https://www.bas.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2243ad0c6854edc12d82780d7873d4d2_1432290400-1024x867.jpg
they did not keep quiet there complaining THAT THEY HAVE NOT GONE YET they want to go but they will never go this is not the first time they have done this and just to prove my point challenger rocket gets sent up in the 1986 and explodes 7 people supposedly die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4JOjcDFtBE&t=3s
a few years later they where found alive now 30 years have passed and there fine its a lie
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/challenger_flight_51-l_crew.jpg
120,000 feet no curve and there is a video on it on youtube https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WQITXbcz2hg/maxresdefault.jpg
you need to understand
NASA is filled with NAZI'S and FREE MASONS they took after the war we all know Nazi's are crazy and free masons worship Lucifer http://robschannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/TrustNASA.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Freemasonry/albert_pike_satanist.jpg
NO everyone at NASA is not lying cause some do not even know the mechanic just needs to build the person on the computer just needs to type and file information
the only people who need to know are astronauts, the higher ups, and a few information analysis that's it you can lie to the rest of them
they are offering money http://www.therooster.com/blog/flat-earth-society-offering-5k-anyone-who-can-prove-earth-round
the south pole does not exist only the north pole and that's easy the sun rotates and expands out and then inward towards the north pole
and that's the difference between me and you I TRUST ME EYES the sun is right there in the video PHYSICAL EVIDENCE IS THE BEST EVIDENCE
Randomonium1 votesThe height of the observer isn't 70 feet, that much is clear since they are above the tallest buildings in the city. Whoever told you that the picture was taken at an elevation of 70 feet is either lying or an idiot. It doesn't change the fact that the island disappears when you are close to the water and only can be seen when the height of eye is high enough. Clearly you have never been on the ocean because ships going over the horizon is a very common occurrence. Land going over the horizon is also a common occurrence. You say you trust your eyes well so do I. I've seen ships go over the horizon. I've been at sea for years and I literally have witnessed thousands of ships go over the horizon. Are you telling me it was all a hoax?
Millions of people lied to. The people telling the lies must be geniuses to be able to pull the wool over some of the smartest people in the world. The must be even bigger geniuses if none of you can come up with concrete evidence to dismiss their lies. What would you say if I told you that all the world leaders we're secretly lizard aliens from Neptune who like to suck the souls out of aborted babies? Would you believe me? That's literally how crazy you sound right about now.
No, Antarctica is not closed off. There is well documented evidence of explorers and scientists crossing it. Many, many people have crossed Antartica since the 1950s using all forms of transportation. No one has ever reported anything unusual. I guess that's a few more thousand people you can add who are all keeping this a secret from the general populous. Any person can cross the Antarctic as long as they clear it with the countries that have claimed it. You could do it if you wanted to.
Who is complaining that they haven't gone to space yet? There have been plenty of wealthy people who have gone to space. Hell, there's even videos of it. I guess they must be in on the conspiracy as well.
Just because you found pictures of old people who look like the dead Astronauts doesn't mean that they didn't die. That's extremely inconsiderate to the families of those who lost loved ones. If these people really exist then why doesn't anyone get any DNA evidence to prove it? That would be a real smoking gun.
NASA is filled with secret Nazis and freemasons who worship Lucifer. Lol, are you serious? Is this real life or the plot from Captain America: Winter Soldier?
You do realize there are scientists who have been to the south pole where the sun doesn't set in the summer. The same behavior can be seen in the north pole. The only way that works is if the earth is round.
Here, I'm going to show you how its impossible for the seasons and the rising and setting of the sun to work with a flat earth in the way you describe. Take a sheet of paper and draw a large circle on it. This circle will represent our flat earth. Now, place a dot at the center of the circle and place several dots radially outwards until you reach the edge. The dot in the center represents the north pole and the other dots represent cities at different latitudes. We all know that the sun doesn't set at the north pole in the summer. In fact, in the summer months it pretty much just hangs in the sky similar to a sun that is perpetually at noon. This must mean that during the summer months at the north pole that the sun must be pretty much directly above our north pole. However, if the sun is directly over the north pole at all times then it has a very small radius orbit as it moves about the sky. Ok, now the fun part. Place your flashlight over your sheet of paper and move it in very small circles above the center. Look at the other dots that are scattered outwards. Keep track of how often they are in the light and how often they are in the dark. You can mess around with how far the flashlight is away from the paper if you'd like. What you'll find is that no matter what you do if you are constrained to keep your flashlight in a small circle above the north pole they every other point on your earth with either also have light all day or darkness all day. There's no in between. The only way to have the sun never set in the summer months at the north pole and have normal days at lower latitudes is to have a curved earth on an axis.
But what if we relax the constraints a little bit. Let's say our sun's orbit is slightly outside the bounds of the north pole. This would cause the north pole to always be in sunlight in the summer months but yet also allow for some more "normal" days in the rest of the world. The problem with this scenario is that it would mean that the sun would move in a circle around the sky in the summer months at the north pole. At certain points in the day the sun would be to the north and at other points in the day the sun would be to the south and every other direction in between. However, this isn't what happens in real life at the north pole and therefore it can't be true.
There is no way that you can shine a light on a flat sheet of paper and accurately reproduce how the sun rises and sets in the real world. The only way that it works is if you use a curved surface on an axis.
Trust your eyes, I know I do.
Isedelica1 votesThe height of the observer isn't 70 feet, that much is clear since they are above the tallest buildings in the city. Whoever told you that the picture was taken at an elevation of 70 feet is either lying or an idiot. It doesn't change the fact that the island disappears when you are close to the water and only can be seen when the height of eye is high enough. Clearly you have never been on the ocean because ships going over the horizon is a very common occurrence. Land going over the horizon is also a common occurrence. You say you trust your eyes well so do I. I've seen ships go over the horizon. I've been at sea for years and I literally have witnessed thousands of ships go over the horizon. Are you telling me it was all a hoax?
Millions of people lied to. The people telling the lies must be geniuses to be able to pull the wool over some of the smartest people in the world. The must be even bigger geniuses if none of you can come up with concrete evidence to dismiss their lies. What would you say if I told you that all the world leaders we're secretly lizard aliens from Neptune who like to suck the souls out of aborted babies? Would you believe me? That's literally how crazy you sound right about now.
No, Antarctica is not closed off. There is well documented evidence of explorers and scientists crossing it. Many, many people have crossed Antartica since the 1950s using all forms of transportation. No one has ever reported anything unusual. I guess that's a few more thousand people you can add who are all keeping this a secret from the general populous. Any person can cross the Antarctic as long as they clear it with the countries that have claimed it. You could do it if you wanted to.
Who is complaining that they haven't gone to space yet? There have been plenty of wealthy people who have gone to space. Hell, there's even videos of it. I guess they must be in on the conspiracy as well.
Just because you found pictures of old people who look like the dead Astronauts doesn't mean that they didn't die. That's extremely inconsiderate to the families of those who lost loved ones. If these people really exist then why doesn't anyone get any DNA evidence to prove it? That would be a real smoking gun.
NASA is filled with secret Nazis and freemasons who worship Lucifer. Lol, are you serious? Is this real life or the plot from Captain America: Winter Soldier?
You do realize there are scientists who have been to the south pole where the sun doesn't set in the summer. The same behavior can be seen in the north pole. The only way that works is if the earth is round.
Here, I'm going to show you how its impossible for the seasons and the rising and setting of the sun to work with a flat earth in the way you describe. Take a sheet of paper and draw a large circle on it. This circle will represent our flat earth. Now, place a dot at the center of the circle and place several dots radially outwards until you reach the edge. The dot in the center represents the north pole and the other dots represent cities at different latitudes. We all know that the sun doesn't set at the north pole in the summer. In fact, in the summer months it pretty much just hangs in the sky similar to a sun that is perpetually at noon. This must mean that during the summer months at the north pole that the sun must be pretty much directly above our north pole. However, if the sun is directly over the north pole at all times then it has a very small radius orbit as it moves about the sky. Ok, now the fun part. Place your flashlight over your sheet of paper and move it in very small circles above the center. Look at the other dots that are scattered outwards. Keep track of how often they are in the light and how often they are in the dark. You can mess around with how far the flashlight is away from the paper if you'd like. What you'll find is that no matter what you do if you are constrained to keep your flashlight in a small circle above the north pole they every other point on your earth with either also have light all day or darkness all day. There's no in between. The only way to have the sun never set in the summer months at the north pole and have normal days at lower latitudes is to have a curved earth on an axis.
But what if we relax the constraints a little bit. Let's say our sun's orbit is slightly outside the bounds of the north pole. This would cause the north pole to always be in sunlight in the summer months but yet also allow for some more "normal" days in the rest of the world. The problem with this scenario is that it would mean that the sun would move in a circle around the sky in the summer months at the north pole. At certain points in the day the sun would be to the north and at other points in the day the sun would be to the south and every other direction in between. However, this isn't what happens in real life at the north pole and therefore it can't be true.
There is no way that you can shine a light on a flat sheet of paper and accurately reproduce how the sun rises and sets in the real world. The only way that it works is if you use a curved surface on an axis.
Trust your eyes, I know I do.
OHHH the reptilians i have so much to say about them
and no in Antarctica they sent military down there to look for Hitler and I know what you are talking about
Operation high Jump done by Admiral byrd then afterwards they closed it off created NASA and did Operation fishbowl and Operation Dominic was a series of high-altitude nuclear tests in 1962 that were carried out by the United States as a part of the larger Operation Dominic nuclear test program
NASA http://robschannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/NASA-deceive.jpg Dominic - belonging to GOD fishbowl - fishbowl
we the liars will shot nuclear missiles at the LORDS fishbowl
AND I QUOTE AUGUSTE PICCARD IT LOOK LIKE A DISC WITH AN UPTURNED EDGE THE WATERS ABOVE MY LORDS FIRMAMENT
Job 26:10 He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters At the boundary of light and darkness
when you inscribed it creates an upturned edge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jVJR9zSEs
Randomonium1 votesI love how you completely ignored most of my post. Here it is again:
Here, I'm going to show you how its impossible for the seasons and the rising and setting of the sun to work with a flat earth in the way you describe. Take a sheet of paper and draw a large circle on it. This circle will represent our flat earth. Now, place a dot at the center of the circle and place several dots radially outwards until you reach the edge. The dot in the center represents the north pole and the other dots represent cities at different latitudes. We all know that the sun doesn't set at the north pole in the summer. In fact, in the summer months it pretty much just hangs in the sky similar to a sun that is perpetually at noon. This must mean that during the summer months at the north pole that the sun must be pretty much directly above our north pole. However, if the sun is directly over the north pole at all times then it has a very small radius orbit as it moves about the sky. Ok, now the fun part. Place your flashlight over your sheet of paper and move it in very small circles above the center. Look at the other dots that are scattered outwards. Keep track of how often they are in the light and how often they are in the dark. You can mess around with how far the flashlight is away from the paper if you'd like. What you'll find is that no matter what you do if you are constrained to keep your flashlight in a small circle above the north pole they every other point on your earth with either also have light all day or darkness all day. There's no in between. The only way to have the sun never set in the summer months at the north pole and have normal days at lower latitudes is to have a curved earth on an axis.
But what if we relax the constraints a little bit. Let's say our sun's orbit is slightly outside the bounds of the north pole. This would cause the north pole to always be in sunlight in the summer months but yet also allow for some more "normal" days in the rest of the world. The problem with this scenario is that it would mean that the sun would move in a circle around the sky in the summer months at the north pole. At certain points in the day the sun would be to the north and at other points in the day the sun would be to the south and every other direction in between. However, this isn't what happens in real life at the north pole and therefore it can't be true.
There is no way that you can shine a light on a flat sheet of paper and accurately reproduce how the sun rises and sets in the real world. The only way that it works is if you use a curved surface on an axis.
Trust your eyes, I know I do.
And here's a visualization of the flat earth model to show why it doesn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg
And here are 2 simple experiments you can do to prove to yourself a flat earth model is impossible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFU1A88N_6I
and that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to evidence. Purely from a mathematical perspective a flat earth model does not match what we see in reality.
Isedelica1 votesI love how you completely ignored most of my post. Here it is again:
And here's a visualization of the flat earth model to show why it doesn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg
And here are 2 simple experiments you can do to prove to yourself a flat earth model is impossible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFU1A88N_6I
and that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to evidence. Purely from a mathematical perspective a flat earth model does not match what we see in reality.
the light from the sun refracts from the dome
and as the sun sets it gets smaller meaning it is moving away not setting
Randomonium1 votesI don't think you understand what those words mean. Light refracting off a dome will never cause the light source to appear like it goes below the horizon.
Isedelica1 votesI don't think you understand what those words mean. Light refracting off a dome will never cause the light source to appear like it goes below the horizon.
skip the beginning if you want
Randomonium2 votesSkip the beginning of what? You give me a 2 sentence response to multiple arguments that doesn't refute anything I've said. I gave you your fun and refuted your arguments, now its my turn. Show me how a flat earth model works based on the arguments I've provided. The truth is that it doesn't. Furthermore, a flat earth model can't predict stellar phenomena. A flat earth model can't predict when the next solar or lunar eclipse will occur nor can it predict the movements of the planets.
And we haven't even begun to talk about all the other issues that a flat earth model has.
I honestly don't see why you need to believe the earth has to be flat. Why does the earth have to be the center of the universe to justify your religious beliefs? I think its pretty beautiful that God created our universe with such immense complexity. You really think the best God can come up with is your flat earth model? Really? Your flat earth model is like something a 7 year old would make for a science class. Isn't it way more amazing and God-like that God created hundreds of billions of galaxies all with hundred of billions of stars within them? Isn't it more amazing that he designed spherical planets that all move in complex orbits. Isn't it amazing how nuclear fusion powers our sun? Isn't it more God-like that he created a universe so complex and so massive that there is no way we will ever be able to understand it fully?
Isedelica1 votesSkip the beginning of what? You give me a 2 sentence response to multiple arguments that doesn't refute anything I've said. I gave you your fun and refuted your arguments, now its my turn. Show me how a flat earth model works based on the arguments I've provided. The truth is that it doesn't. Furthermore, a flat earth model can't predict stellar phenomena. A flat earth model can't predict when the next solar or lunar eclipse will occur nor can it predict the movements of the planets.
And we haven't even begun to talk about all the other issues that a flat earth model has.
I honestly don't see why you need to believe the earth has to be flat. Why does the earth have to be the center of the universe to justify your religious beliefs? I think its pretty beautiful that God created our universe with such immense complexity. You really think the best God can come up with is your flat earth model? Really? Your flat earth model is like something a 7 year old would make for a science class. Isn't it way more amazing and God-like that God created hundreds of billions of galaxies all with hundred of billions of stars within them? Isn't it more amazing that he designed spherical planets that all move in complex orbits. Isn't it amazing how nuclear fusion powers our sun? Isn't it more God-like that he created a universe so complex and so massive that there is no way we will ever be able to understand it fully?
bring me physical evidence if not your words are worthless
Randomonium1 votesSpoken like someone who can't refute my arguments. Not so tough now are you. Oh well, you "brought this upon yourself." Lol. Words were plenty good when you were making the arguments. Its only when I'm making arguments that they're "worthless." Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
And by the way I did provide you with physical evidence, more proof that you didn't read (or comprehend) what I wrote or watch the videos I provided. I gave you a physical experiment that you can do to prove that a flat earth model doesn't work. Furthermore, both videos I provided give physical evidence as to why a flat earth cannot work. You can literally go outside and replicate the experiments in the video for yourself.
What physical evidence will you accept? Obviously you won't accept pictures or video since you don't accept the thousands of photos and videos taken of the earth from space. You won't accept any mathematical or scientific explanations. You won't accept the eyewitness testimony of people who have been to space or people who have crossed the Antarctic. Hell, you won't even accept my eyewitness testimony that I have seen ships go over the horizon. You won't accept hundred of years of cartography or nautical history. You are literally acting like a child with their fingers in their ears going "LA LA LA LA LA." I've provided you with about a 100x more evidence than you provided me.
You told me to open my eyes, I suggest you do the same.
Isedelica1 votesSpoken like someone who can't refute my arguments. Not so tough now are you. Oh well, you "brought this upon yourself." Lol. Words were plenty good when you were making the arguments. Its only when I'm making arguments that they're "worthless." Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
And by the way I did provide you with physical evidence, more proof that you didn't read (or comprehend) what I wrote or watch the videos I provided. I gave you a physical experiment that you can do to prove that a flat earth model doesn't work. Furthermore, both videos I provided give physical evidence as to why a flat earth cannot work. You can literally go outside and replicate the experiments in the video for yourself.
What physical evidence will you accept? Obviously you won't accept pictures or video since you don't accept the thousands of photos and videos taken of the earth from space. You won't accept any mathematical or scientific explanations. You won't accept the eyewitness testimony of people who have been to space or people who have crossed the Antarctic. Hell, you won't even accept my eyewitness testimony that I have seen ships go over the horizon. You won't accept hundred of years of cartography or nautical history. You are literally acting like a child with their fingers in their ears going "LA LA LA LA LA." I've provided you with about a 100x more evidence than you provided me.
You told me to open my eyes, I suggest you do the same.
no you didn't you just talked send me pictures videos something so your words are valid if not there worthless
