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punishment system too bias

RuleDaLeague··1 votes·686 views

It only looks at the toxicity and not the reasons for it. sure there are a lot of unreasonable people being toxic for no reason but there are just as much trolls in the game ruining it for others yet riot does NOTHING to them, actually the trolls can end up reporting you even if you say one thing.

Like in a game where someone was insulting me for choosing vel koz, and every little thing I didn't do I was insulted and unreasonably blamed. well I am not a saint so with this kind of unreasonable bs then I would obviously me after I said one thing already)get angry and insult back. (yes theres a mute button but it wouldnt matter if they are already going to report me after the game)

This started just because I chose vel koz in champion select and the person just didn't like the champion itself. I did well ingame too, my kill and assists were above my deaths and I had one of the least deaths on my team. I ignored him during champ select and only said that velkoz can farm safely in case I get countered in my defense for choosing vel koz but the insults still came during champ select. Then during the game every little thing this eve used it to insult and blame me like losing my turret because I died by a gank and they double teamed my tower. this eve (person who was insulting me in champ select for choosing vel) was jungling right near my turret at the time btw and not only that every chance she saw wen I wasnt in my lane she took all the farm so instead I went to gank and help bot out which were all successful and got me and bot plenty of kills then she blames me for not pushing my lane... i got angry here and said something along the lines of "you took my farm so why dont you push dumbass" Ok i said dumbass! even though i got blamed for something like that but according to riot logic saying "dumbass" means punishment no matter what even if the other side called you something similar first! So i was the one banned when the person insulted not just me but blamed bot lane too. the community is definitely trash but the company running this is just as bad if not worse.

I wouldn't say I was right because I said some things back too but is it really worth a 2 week ban? I wasn't even at fault here. "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all" so im suppose to take all the unreasonable shit against me? great logic riot. why is only toxicity punished? sure it affects whether you win sometimes and hurts others but not as bad as real trolls which guarantees a loss! there are people out there really trying to advance up the ladder yet some1 comes and fks it over for you on purpose because they dont care whether they win or lose. even if u report intentionally feeding its not like riot watches every single game yet toxicity they just need to read a few sentences of a game which takes like..... 10 seconds? so because its easier they just do something about toxicity and let trolls roam free? This is some serious BS!

and i am not talking about just making mistakes or doing bad i do not think that is trolling because even I have days like that. since 4 v 5 is already hard on high elos but if they make it "4 v 6" it really is messed up + they can get away with it! but why is it ok to do something like purposely feed (and i mean purposely meaning they annouce it themselves then do it or afk because they were doing badly on a lane and ive seen ppl quit after like their first death!) even if it gets reported there is no punishment for it but if some1 says something "toxic" even one word they get reported and banned.

yea I am just ranting here and i know riot will never change but this is just too unfair.. so im just releasing some steam in this post. I dont believe that toxicity is the worst offense in this game and be the only thing that is majorly punished. we play games to enjoy them not build up more stress, i get that enough in real life. Im fine with losing because it would just mean I am not good enough but i am not ok with unreasonable actions from people that also go unpunished until they say something in chat (so its ok to be a silent troll :/ )

14 Comments

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

When a troll is flaming you and you feel like retorting, take into consideration the effect the argument will have on the rest of the team, and also if it would even make you feel any better. Most likely you will start bugging them as much as the troll was, and you won't only not feel better you may feel worse.

The best option is to mute them immediately the second you think they might be a problem. The earlier the better.

RuleDaLeague1 votes

ugh good point ill keep that in mind but i still think that something really needs to be done about the punishment system.. and i wish something can be done about the trolls too. i know its probably impossible to eliminate them but they could reduce it for sure. i mean muting doesnt really work against a player that ruins it for your team on purpose yet doesnt say anything... sigh.

Koalaty Time2 votes

a simple problem with a simple solution~ Don't type in the game, unless you're saying something helpful. Even if you had a reason to be toxic that should in no way excuse your toxicity. all you're doing is spreading hate and subjecting your teammates to a bad bad time~

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

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Like in a game where someone was insulting me for choosing vel koz, and every little thing I didn't do I was insulted and unreasonably blamed. well I am not a saint so with this kind of unreasonable bs then I would obviously me after I said one thing already)get angry and insult back. (yes theres a mute button but it wouldnt matter if they are already going to report me after the game)

This is what jumps out at me the most here. It does matter if you mute them(really that you don't respond) even if they are going to report you anyway. Reports aren't just a tally against your account, they are scanned for content and verified. If you don't do anything, it doesn't matter if someone reports you.

As someone else mentioned. Its just just you reporting him and him reporting you. There are 3 other people on your team that are likely reporting you both.

Trolling will probably never be punished the way you or I want. Its too complex and the game is too big. There isn't a good way to automate that. Like if I decided to troll you by just deciding to come to your lane every so often and shove it to the tower. Theres no way you can definitively know thats trolling even if it is. Thats the kind of thing that trolling is about, subtlety.

You don't have to be a saint, you just have to recognize that there is no point in being toxic, even to trolls. That troll isn't doing it because no one yelled at him or called him an asshole. In all likely hood, you getting mad is exactly what they want. So now, not only are you not helping by raging at them, you are feeding them. Giving them a little treat for their efforts.

Ignore/mute, and report at the end of the game.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

using the chat basically means getting banned at some point. there should simply be an option to turn off the chat

Angry Monster1 votes

You can turn of cross team chat, and all you have to do is hit TAB and mute everyone if you really do not want to chat enabled.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

give me one reason there isnt an option to turn off the chat

Angry Monster1 votes

Cause your not supposed to turn of chat from our team. It makes it harder it win. You can manually take advantage of a anti abuse feature to do what you want. Riot does not want you auto isolating your self from your team every game.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

riot also doesnt want me to chat apparently because every time someone writes something in the chat, you only get "go fuck yourself you cancer piece of shit dont tell me what to do you suck" as a reply.

sure i can mute everyone at the beginning of the game, but i could just turn off the chat and it would be all good and i wouldnt have to bother about that every single game. can still communicate with pings if neccessary

RuleDaLeague1 votes

yes exactly! muting everyone and isolating yourself does more good than harm in this case. Maybe if riot didnt support the trolls so much then it wouldnt force us to mute everyone. sure there are people who are toxic without reason but there are plenty of people who are toxic because of reasons. but as long as you say one word that can be considered toxic. you are fked no questions asked. you got trolled and insulted but the troll didn't say a single toxic word but you did? well tough luck your the one that will be banned! the other didnt say a single toxic thing so hes safe even if he did ruin the game for everyone else. RIOT LOGIC DUMBER THAN A Kid's selfish logic!!!!!

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

i just found an option that helps me alot -> go to interface -> chat scaling minimum.

now my chat is so small, i sure can see when people write something, but i cant read it and also i think psychologicall due to it being so small it doesnt matter to me as much. they are just flies afterall ;D

PS: rito logic. i can turn the chat so small i cant read shit, but i CANT turn it off because "no teamplay"

RuleDaLeague1 votes

lol nice but i think ill be angry just seeing their troll names on the chat so ill stick with auto muting everyone because even flies are annoying :D

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

its true but i mostly duoQ so /mute all would be too much trouble and muting them all individually... way too annoying to do that every game.

RuleDaLeague1 votes

even so riot is obviously supporting us to auto isolate ourselves. everyone can hold in their anger but no1 can hold it in forever that would literally drive a person mad if not kill them first. if riot really does not want us to auto isolate ourselves then their actions are complete opposite. cons of auto isolation - harder to make friends, useful information in everyday chat you might not know about, pros- prevent being banned as long as you keep quiet about their actions. usually the argument with the trolls is what caused being banned (of course the troll gets off free). avoid chat restriction and ranked restriciton

i can hold off my anger against trolls to a certain extent but its usually the argument after that makes me become toxic... i mean the person is trolling then he looks down on everyone else! that just blows me up. Even if its harder to win its better than losing 2 weeks and 35 games worth of ranked restriction that may one day lead to perm ban.

ive been stuck in gold for over a year now. I know I am not a horrible player and of course I dont think i am the best either. i do well in most of my games but being banned and chat restricted + the amount of games i lose cause of trolls and cant make it back up because of the restrictions hurts me many many times more. thats why I've decided to auto isolate myself every game after I can play again because I cannot think of a better solution at the moment. If people troll then I can hold my anger then report them afterwards. But if i see that troll acting like hes the best goddam player on earth and looking down on everyone.... on bad days ill be toxic and i dont have the confidence to hold myself back during that. Ive played for 70ish games of chat restriction in normal and held myself back from talking so many times. but after my restriction was lifted and i got trolled in a ranked game really really hard... i got angry and became toxic which immediately led to being banned. just that 1 game!!! riot even says in the code of conduct that everyone has bad days and to look over it, that was my bad day! and i got instant banned!!! Unless someone can think of a better alternative then I am sticking with permanent auto isolation every game from now on. My luck is already bad to begin with and I run into trolls so often that I scare even myself. all that anger stacking every game + the crap i deal with from them talking like their the best... its just overkill. thx for all your comments guys instead of just bashing me, it really helped me a lot.

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