Riot, Can We Actually Get A Comprehensive List Of 3rd Party Apps That Are Taboo And Why They Are?

Axel Beoulve··4 votes·1,131 views

Every Time I See This Subject Riot Just Usually Dances Around The Questions Without Really Answering Them. It Sure Would Be Nice If We As A Community Had a Definitive List Of Black Listed 3rp Party Apps, Instead Of Just Muddying The Waters Of the Whole Ordeal And Maybe Making It More Apparent That Our Computers Are Being Monitored On A Level That Breaches Privacy On A Personal Level

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ImNLuvWitATeemo3 votes

So Many Capital Letters

TeemoJenkins2 votes

Definitive Answer: All 3rd party applications that interact with the League client are disallowed. Says so in the terms of use in your End User License Agreement.

Axel Beoulve1 votes

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Definitive Answer: All 3rd party applications that interact with the League client are disallowed. Says so in the terms of use in your End User License Agreement.

It Says That, But Riot Turns Around And Allows Custom Skins Are Okay, Apps That Show Ranked Stats Of The Players In Game is Okay, Apps That Show Death Replays Are Okay, Custom HUD's are okay, Recommended Item Set Swappers Are Okay. All of these Modify The League Client Do They Not?

TeemoJenkins1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zITjgkl6,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-10-26T22:45:05.573+0000)

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/5kx4F7VE-reminder-third-party-applications?

"Use at your own risk" AKA - if you're going to the whorehouse, if your rubber breaks, don't blame the pimp.

Daen2 votes

Is There Any Particular Reason You Feel The Need To Speak Like This? It's More Work Than It Would Be To Just Type Correctly.


The definitive list of black listed 3rd party apps is all of them. Riot does not officially endorse any third party programs, and unfortunately that's the best answer you're likely to get. Custom skins are merely a cosmetic change that's a one-time edit in the game files, apps showing ranked stats are usually borderline (though sites like Elophant generally do their best to comply with Riot's ToU), etc.

Overall, it's safest not to use any third party products and Riot's official stance is that none of them are supported. They aren't likely to ban anyone for using custom skins or HUD overlays, but if you plan to modify your client at all you need to be prepared for its possibility.

Axel Beoulve1 votes

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Is There Any Particular Reason You Feel The Need To Speak Like This? It's More Work Than It Would Be To Just Type Correctly.


The definitive list of black listed 3rd party apps is all of them. Riot does not officially endorse any third party programs, and unfortunately that's the best answer you're likely to get. Custom skins are merely a cosmetic change that's a one-time edit in the game files, apps showing ranked stats are usually borderline (though sites like Elophant generally do their best to comply with Riot's ToU), etc.

Overall, it's safest not to use any third party products and Riot's official stance is that none of them are supported. They aren't likely to ban anyone for using custom skins or HUD overlays, but if you plan to modify your client at all you need to be prepared for its possibility.

Because Why Not Type Like This?


The Definitive List Of Black Listed 3rd Party Apps Clearly Is Not All Of Them Seeing As They Say They Don't Allow A 3rd Party App To Display Info That Is Hidden Or Directly Interfaces With The Client But People That Do use Them Go Unpunished, That's Why I'm Trying to Ask Them For a Comprehensive/Specific List Of 3rd Party Apps Or Functions That Can And Cannot Be Used

Daen1 votes

That's Why I'm Trying to Ask Them For a Comprehensive/Specific List Of 3rd Party Apps Or Functions That Can And Cannot Be Used

This is not something they will ever do. Riot has a pretty well-established stance on this, and it's "we don't endorse the usage of third party applications". It's within the realm of logic and common knowledge that Riot doesn't generally go after people for cosmetic customizations like custom skins, but past that it's essentially a foray into the unsupported unknown.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axel Beoulve,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zITjgkl6,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-10-26T23:08:00.757+0000)

Because Why Not Type Like This?

Because it is both incorrect and harder to read.

The Definitive List Of Black Listed 3rd Party Apps Clearly Is Not All Of Them Seeing As They Say They Don't Allow A 3rd Party App To Display Info That Is Hidden Or Directly Interfaces With The Client But People That Do use Them Go Unpunished, That's Why I'm Trying to Ask Them For a Comprehensive/Specific List Of 3rd Party Apps Or Functions That Can And Cannot Be Used

They don't want us using any 3rd party apps even if some are ignored. What is ignored also changes which is why sometimes they send out mass warnings about certain mods when they change their stance. Mods can also add and change features so its more than just approving a mod, they would have to reapprove every update.

If you want to be safe then don't use any. If you do use them, you are doing so at your own risk.

TeemoJenkins1 votes

I've never seen a Red post stating any of those are "Okay". Riot discourages the use of 3rd party applications for several reasons.

  1. Exploits - you never know what that 3rd party application is doing, what data it's mining, or what keys it's logging.
  2. Hacks - Even if you aren't using them, if the application has the ability, it's not good for the game.
  3. Client instability - 3rd party applications that interface with the League Client can have unexpected results which can cause you to DC (Skin not loaded errors being common for those users that used the 3rd party app that let them "try out skins") among other things.
Axel Beoulve1 votes

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I've never seen a Red post stating any of those are "Okay". Riot discourages the use of 3rd party applications for several reasons.

  1. Exploits - you never know what that 3rd party application is doing, what data it's mining, or what keys it's logging.
  2. Hacks - Even if you aren't using them, if the application has the ability, it's not good for the game.
  3. Client instability - 3rd party applications that interface with the League Client can have unexpected results which can cause you to DC (Skin not loaded errors being common for those users that used the 3rd party app that let them "try out skins") among other things.

In The Past Some Rioters Have Said They know Custom Skins Aren't Okay But they Don't Care About Them Because They're "Client-Side" But The Way Custom Skins Work Change The Actual Files Of The Game, And They Haven't Acted Upon The Other 3rd Party Apps But Popular Streamers Use Them On Stream Without Any Reprocssions

Axel Beoulve1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zITjgkl6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-10-26T22:43:00.737+0000)

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/5kx4F7VE-reminder-third-party-applications?

Read up on this thread.

They Stated In The Post:

"If there were ever any modification that were to become so standard as to be required for competitive play, the integrity of our environment just wouldn’t be viable. You shouldn’t ever have to go digging for add-ons just to stay competitive."

Why Are Apps That Allow Death Replays and Showing the Stats Of All Players In The Current Game Not Being Mentioned, They Interface With The LoL Client Itself

Stephenizgod1 votes

Anything that interacts with the League Client is against the rules, if it effects the game in any way im pretty sure das ist taboo

Daedalus8711 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axel Beoulve,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zITjgkl6,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-10-26T22:12:55.354+0000)

Every Time I See This Subject Riot Just Usually Dances Around The Questions Without Really Answering Them. It Sure Would Be Nice If We As A Community Had a Definitive List Of Black Listed 3rp Party Apps, Instead Of Just Muddying The Waters Of the Whole Ordeal And Maybe Making It More Apparent That Our Computers Are Being Monitored On A Level That Breaches Privacy On A Personal Level

Downvoted For Inconsistency, Even Though I Agree With You.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

This Is Far More Painful To Do Than I Expected. I Typed One Sentence And Wanted To Quit.

Technically, all of them are banned. However, the only heavily enforced ones are the ones that affect actual game mechanics. Scripting, drop-hacking, and other game-breakers are targeted. Things like death replays or custom skins are less impactful to the actual game, but can mess up the client and make you or others crash, so they're technically unallowed, but you normally won't get banned or targeted for them.

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