still 3+ levels behind solo lanes in the mid game I'm done jungling.

TenSlashTen·Mar 27, 2015·1 votes·253 views

any support/adc wanna duo bot? Or mid/top duo?

17 Comments

TsugagaMar 27, 20151 votes

If you get behind as a jungler then it's because you're wasting too much time. If you're not taking an objective, ganking a lane, or killing a camp then you're wasting time. Every second counts as a jungler, wasting even 10 seconds puts you behind a camp, doing this 5-10+ times per game will get you multiple levels behind. Unless you you need to be somewhere immediately, always kill jungle camps and try to never leave your jungle sitting unkilled for extended amounts of time.

TenSlashTenMar 27, 20151 votes

I was 2/0/5 when their jungler was 0/3 and only 1 level behind me The exp gain is shit. Don't even try to argue with me like you agree with this bullshit.

IcyPepperMar 27, 20151 votes

Time management isn't bullshit.

Now, those five times assists... did you take your minion tax?

TyrenMar 27, 20152 votes

I don't take minion tax all the time, I go right back into the jungle or into another lane most of the time.

IcyPepperMar 27, 20151 votes

I never said all the time, I asked specifically about those assists. Minion tax is usually acceptable if you give the kill to the laner (exceptions being if they're behind/struggling, you're uber fed, etc).

Did you hold lanes that were empty?

TyrenMar 27, 20151 votes

I do my best, some times I just can't make it there. Like I'll be ganking bot, doing drag when some one decides to back, or the other jungler decides to fight me when I'm in route.

Keep in mind, I'm doing normals to get familiar with all the roles before I jump into ranked. Most of the time my laner doesn't even attempt to help with the gank. The few times I take kills is because there was no way they could have gotten it and claim that I stole it.

IcyPepperMar 27, 20151 votes

Oh boy, do I know how you feel.

That's why I like playing with my friends, and they let me goof around and jungle with whoever (since I main jungle, and can afford to goof off by knowing what I'm doing). One trick you can do, if you want, is play a "weak" champion and try to get your enemy to invade. Use wards, ping for your friends, and then cc them with your support abilities.

Soraka item 3726 item 3153 item 3006 item 3091 nobody expects the banana. Nobody.

TyrenMar 27, 20151 votes

I've seen Sorraka adc but never jungle, this interests me I'm going to try this. What runes and masteries do you use?

I've also wanted to try Thresh in the jungle.

IcyPepperMar 27, 20151 votes

Runes: standard armor seals, MR glyphs. Attack damage marks, attack speed quints. Masteries: standard AD jungler 21/9/0

First four spell levels: Q, Q, E, W, Q, R

How to gank: if possible, use passive (amberlamps OP) to get into lane fast, pop your E and get that root. Especially deadly for midlane, because the silence field prevents flash and troublemakers like Leblanc Katarina Zed from just teleporting away. Your bananas, especially after a few clears, are going to hurt like hell with devourer AND botrk.

How to counterjungle when invaded: use E, silence and root while your laners get into lane.

How to make a shit ton of assist gold: go lane to lane, popping heals left and right and using your E Q combo. Keep an eye on teammates' health, pop R when necessary and definitely use it during teamfights. Don't waste it when they're at 50% health (amberlamps!), try to clutch saves at 25% or so and win those teamfights without the enemy team seeing it coming.

TyrenMar 27, 20151 votes

I'm definitely going to try this once I get home. Start the Frog (Smite), Blue, Wolves route?

IcyPepperMar 27, 20151 votes

Yes, if possible. Save second smite for red (for obvious reasons), and use third smite on krugs then fourth on dragon if possible.

Don't be afraid to recall early in your route, Soraka can catch up reasonably easy once she finishes the devourer enchantment.

TyrenMar 27, 20151 votes

Thanks, I'll send you my results once I get a few games in.

TenSlashTenMar 28, 20151 votes

thats the issue. Junglers like me who don't tax heavily get punished heavily. I don't like taxing my team when I know they're just as capable as I am at carrying the game.

Now I'm forced to take half a wave/a full wave of exp to even keep on par with the adc on the team once he starts solo pushing and the support roams with me Its like what the hell. lol I'm sick of this exp gain I don't want to be the second support it makes me feel unimportant. If wanted to play support I'd play it. Riot can't seem to get it through their thick skulls.

RawMar 27, 20151 votes

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TenSlashTenMar 28, 20151 votes

I don't wanna go back D; At least my threads had intelligent comments sometimes in GD. Now It's just get downvoted before anyone posts and then the first few posts are people who don't understand what they're talking about or trolls here... makes no sense how the forum has become worse :p

femméMar 27, 20151 votes

depends on your farm. if you have 16 cs by ten minutes than you should be. stop wasting in a brush when the lane is pushed in and go farm, nothing's gonna happen.

TenSlashTenMar 28, 20151 votes

It's almost insulting that you think I'd try to gank an ungankable lane when I've been jungling since before you even made a league account.