bullying , rude people and sore losers / report system

koifish551··1 votes·318 views

This game has so many rude people and bullies . To me a game is supposed to be fun . but a game is only as fun as the people you play with . if you are having a bad game why is it always someone elses fault ? why do you constantly have to call people names and curse them out if you lose ? no one can win every game why make it miserable ? i really would like to see a revamp of the report system . with feedback to know if the sore losers and bullies that you report actually get penalized . i dont just report people on my team if i see someone getting harassed after game in the lobby i report for them also . this game has so much potential and i would like to say the same about the community of people that play it . not only do your comments in game affect the outcome of the game but it also hurts real life people . so please be more considerate . realize this game is just a game not a career . And plz plz get a revamp of the report system . a loss will go away after a couple of wins but the emotional damage you do to people can last a lifetime .

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Jubbinaut1 votes

For one, what you've stated (feedback on punishment of reported players) wouldn't require a revamp of the system.

For two, I don't really believe that there's enough benefit to adding it to make it worth the time. Yet. At the moment, there's enough other, more impactful things to be done (getting Tribunal back up and running, implementing positive behavior reward systems, etc) to keep focus off of a change such as you suggest.

koifish5511 votes

ty for the comments but my point of this is that you report people and know nothing of what happens . also what if someone or three people on your team report you just to be bullies how can you defend against fraudulent reports ? i know quite a few people that would like to know what happens to the bully who is sitting there the whole game making fun of people and cursing them out . for half an hour it is miserable the game is supposed to be fun . yet you just wasted a half hour on negativity and don't even know if there was anything done to make this player stop it . yes i agree there are probably more things to do . but would it really be that hard to give the people who just wasted their time some shred of relief that this player will be reprimanded . i like playing with nice people whether i win or lose . i don't mind seeing someone suggest that someone do something differently . its the ones who say u are stupid you dumb #####@$%$@#%$@$#@$%#^$# . that only makes people play worse . remember it is a game and games are played for fun , enjoyment . and i would enjoy knowing the bully wasn't getting away with it .. also positive behavior rewards ? how do they know who is being positive people rarely even use the honor system even when you win ,teach them something , or just good teamwork with them even if u lose . can you explain to me how this works plz . im not being sarcastic im actually curious to know .

Jubbinaut1 votes

ty for the comments but my point of this is that you report people and know nothing of what happens .

This is true. My point is that the benefit of changing that is - at the moment - not enough to make it worth doing, compared to other systems that can offer significantly greater benefit.

also what if someone or three people on your team report you just to be bullies how can you defend against fraudulent reports ?

The best way to defend against fraudulent reports is twofold: First, make sure they're fraudulent. Don't return toxicity to a toxic player. Second, make sure you report the toxic player.

There's a review step before any sanction is issued to an account, to ensure that the reports against that account are valid. I've seen a very few cases (far less than 1%) where innocent players were punished falsely. Even when that happens, Support tickets can address the issue.

Beyond that, it's important to note that players who habitually abuse the report system by reporting innocent players have the weight of their reports reduced. Their reports literally become worth less to the case-building system.

but would it really be that hard to give the people who just wasted their time some shred of relief that this player will be reprimanded .

Potentially, yes. Consider: You'd need to be sure the language was correct, as they can't violate their privacy policies. You'd need to develop either a new mailer-bot or entirely new UI elements. You'd need a new addition to the report system (which means lots of testing to be sure it doesn't break the report system).

And that's just off the top of my head. I don't really know what all other things would need attention. That's attention that's being taken away from tuning Leaverbuster, from getting Tribunal up and running, from testing and developing the algorithms for detection of positive players, from whatever else they're working on.

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it. Just that maybe now isn't the time.

also positive behavior rewards ? how do they know who is being positive people rarely even use the honor system even when you win ,teach them something , or just good teamwork with them even if u lose . can you explain to me how this works plz . im not being sarcastic im actually curious to know .

Generally, they know that the same way they know how negative players are being negative. How often they're reported, what they're reported for, what the weight of those reports are, how often they're honored, who they're honored by, what their chatlogs look like, and so forth.

I'm not sure how they're planning to go about handling rewarding positive behavior, because while they've said they want to, they haven't said how those systems are going to work (except to state that the new Tribunal is supposed to include cases for ostensibly positive players, where the community will determine if the player deserves rewards rather than punishment). But I am definitely looking forward to hearing more about them.

Sorry for the book, I just wanted to be sure I addressed all of your concerns.

koifish5511 votes

ty very much .. i use the report system frequently to honor / report afks, harassment , cursing out and calling names , or just someone being mean like stealing the junglers buffs in the beginning and then laughing about it in chat ... im not completely innocent i often catch myself getting irritated by toxic players and returning their negativity and i need to work on that . or when we have a jungle who doesn't understand the value of teamwork and refuses to gank for top . no matter how many times you ping or request for it in chat . and they start saying well your just no good you should be able to hold lane yourself . i often get upset when they won't listen to reason about the game being a team effort and that is why u are losing because they are not working as a team . after reason doesn't work with them and they start saying mean stuff i find that i get negative back and i need to work on that . but i also go into intro or beginners bots games to help people and teach them more about the game but i rarely get honors for any of it lol . well ty for taking the time to respond to me i appreciate it .

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