Hi people, my problem is following: I, and many other people i know, have more than 10 hextech chests and no keys/key fragments, so what should we do with these chests? Possible solution: Why not to make keys,chests equal, make a possibility to switch 1 key for 1 hextech chest and 1 hextech chest for 1 key, that should solve this problem without any difficulties. Thanks for your time and go ahead leave your thoughts down below.
S0kaX25 votesWell I'm sitting here with 9 keys, but I still support you.
singiel3810 votessame, i get many keys but no chests :v
Your Neighbour2 votesI got opposite issue, I have more keys than chest dont really mind tbh
PaSaRoIgAs2 votesthat is a widespread problem, which in my conclusion,should be eliminated indeed :D
WinTheWarOnPants2 votesIt would easily be eliminated if they just played other champs. if you get at least half the avaliable chests then you will not have more keys than chests. Unless you straight up "no life" league you will get about 1 key for every 3 chests. The reason for this disparity is because you are guaranteed to get a chest for getting an S- or better(a very easy task), to get a shard you have to win and then RNG takes over. You CAN NOT get more keys than chests, but the drop rate for keys decreases drastically by the time you get 3-4 shards after the monther key reset. I don't know if there is a statistic out there, but from personal experience(I've never gotten all 3 keys for a month) i've won upwards of 30 games in a month and gotten only 4 shards. compair that to an average of 2-4 games(win or lose) to get an S- it's easy to see that the system heavily favors getting chests over keys.(which is why i have 29 chests currently) lol
Skins Project2 votes4 keys per month actually ;D 12key frags max per month/3=4
WinTheWarOnPants1 votesoh wow! iv'e never gotten more than 2 keys in a month even when i played a ton of league 60-80 games. I wonder if anyone has even gotten all 4 in a month.
Skins Project2 votesVery little I imagine. Maybe top teir players? (The ones who do esports?) Because ideally if the cap is 12 normally you shouldn't reach the cap. (Without overplayage) being that it is a % chance that decrease after each key frag received. It's theoretically possible to play like 12 games, win all 12 and get keyfrags in each one, but realistically it's more like win 100-500? Get 12
Maiziea1 votesA while ago someone did the math I believe it was between 80 and 100 wins per month, which is very doable. I haven't struggled whatsoever getting 12 keys per month.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votes80 wins = 30 minutes x 80 = 2400 minutes / 60 = 40 hours
7 x 4 = 28*24 = 672 : 40
what is that like 3 games a day? i lost my train of thought and put down random math.
Terozu1 votesI've gotten 4 in less than a week...
QuickenedBlade2 votesWell I'm sitting here with 9 keys, but I still support you.
l2p more than 1 champ then lmao
S0kaX1 votesNot like I got chests on 12 champions.
Terozu1 votesThat's not a lot...
S0kaX1 votesSo you want me to learn to play every singe champion in this game so I can get chest on them?
Terozu1 votesYes. That's literally the entire point of the chest system, prizes to encourage playing a variety of champions.
S0kaX1 votesI'm not a fricking play to win, I'm a play to play.
Terozu1 votesI play to play too, but unlike you I'm not a spoiled child who thinks he should get the the rewards for something, without fulfilling the prerequisite, i.e. you want the free skins and such that come from playing a large variety of champions, without playing a wide variety of champions. And fyi, you should be good with AT LEAST 16 champs, so that you can play SOMEONE regardless of the situation.
S0kaX1 votesSpoiled kid? Have I ever said that I want more chests? NO. 16 Champions? Why ? 3 for every role and 1 universal or what? Next time try to insult me with something that makes sense.
Terozu1 votes16 champs so that if you're playing a game mode with bans, you will still have a champ even if all 6 bans are champs you own, and every other champ in the game is a champ you own, that's why you need 16 champs before entering draft in the first place; and you support this dude's plight that means you want more chests, this is basic logic.
S0kaX1 votesand you support this dude's plight that means you want more chests, this is basic logic.
Ok I'm seriously starting to think you are not thinking when you write this. This dude wants more keys. And I agree since I have some friends that struggle with their keys. How the fuck does that mean I want more chests? Also the chances of all 6 bans to be champions I own and are for a role/lane I go ( speaking about normal/ranked draft since in rotating gamemodes you can go whatever the fuck you want with no penalties) are astronomically small unless you go most of the times Yasuo/Zed/Lee Sin etc.
Terozu1 votesNo he doesn't he wants to be able to trade keys for chests and vice versa, did u even read it? And it doesn't matter how low the chance is you should at least have some way to be good despite such an eventuality.
S0kaX1 votesHe said a possible solution would be to be able to trade, but the whole post wasn't all for this, from the fricking title you can see he doesn't have enough keys, also just cause there is an X chance of an Zombie Apocalypse occuring I'm not going to make a bunker and start preparing supplies.
Terozu1 votesThat solution is literally his whole post, and you shouldn't make a bunker but you should have a contingency plan in case the world goes south, something, even if it's just a personal problem, and a bunker would be being good with all champs 16 is having a first aid kit, don't blow it out of proportion sheesh.
S0kaX1 votesFirst aid kit would be 10 champs , 16 would be 2 years supplies.
Aatrox Mid 1v512 votesRiot already stated that the reason there isnt many keys is because they would lose money. They are a company such is their goal, to make money.
AbiwonKenabi5 votesPlus the game is free, so stuff like skins are literally the only way they keep the lights on
Only Play Darius8 votesI have 15 keys and no chests, we should arrange a trade.
DuskDaUmbreon6 votesToo many chests? Not enough keys!? What sorcery is this!? I have 7 keys and nothing to do with them, since my champion pool isn't that large, so I can't get many crates. ;w;
I do support an idea like this, but I think a cap would be better. Either you cap the maximum number of trades in a timeframe, or you make it an uneven trade. Make you wait and go "Is this really what I want to do? Or should I just wait it out?"
BlackFlux3 votesagreed. and not like swapping would be abused since your limited to how many keys and chests you can get (but what do ik about keys. been a month since I got a fragment) I heard there was something where you get keys after a certain number of games. but I play every day so I don't think that's there
Velzard of Koz2 votesYou have a chance to obtain keyfrag from winned game. Once a keyfrag is obtained, the chance decreases. The more keyfrags you get, the smaller the chance you get another one. Approximately 4-6 keyfrags per month If playing constantly. After month, the chance resets, increasing itself.
Harvey Rabbit3 votesI like your idea fine, although if you are getting tons of S scores (on lots of different champs) and not in at least Diamond+ you are probably playing in a way that is detrimental to your team. For example, some guy got level 6 mastery on every champion, and he said how he got all the S scores was by intentionally not helping his team win games and instead focusing on K/D/A and farm without regard to anything else (note: this is what many bad players do without understanding it is bad). He said it felt guilty to play in such a destructive way, but that was the cost of reaching his goal.
Around999People2 votesI have 8 keys and no chests lol.
maikokk2 votesjust buy a few keys. i wouldnt make a habit of it until you know that you have more chests coming in, but they are so cheap.
Jesus is Savior2 votesI have 19 keys and zero chests
Sedonis2 votesI have 14 chests and 0 keys. Feelsbadman
Exalomaniac2 votes14 keys and no chest, feelsbadaswellman
PaSaRoIgAs1 votesyeah...
Joek91002 votesI have 17 chests and no keys
EpikFeeder1 votesSpend some money and support the game you play noobs.
PaSaRoIgAs3 votesSome people do not have the opportunity to just give money to big companies. and that ´´noobs´´ should not be there, it is offensive.
dukevonart1 votesKey frags are only dropped from wins.
Key fragment drop rates work off of a per player cyclical reset timer, similar to chests. Higher drop rates are slightly front-loaded and gradually slow based on the total number of key fragments you’ve received in a cycle until the reset.
It’s possible to earn 4 keys (12 fragments) in a 4 week period. This matches the number of chests players can get.
There is a bad-luck protection rule that puts a maximum number of wins between key frag drops.
Players get a small drop chance bonus if they were in a premade.
PaSaRoIgAs2 votesI know that stuff, and that was not my problem.
dukevonart1 votesI feel it was worth posting in any case. You may have already known this information, but those viewing your post may not have.
System seems to be set up pretty well to balance chests and keys, if you invest time into the game.
If you want chests, play in a premade. If one person gets an S everyone in the premade does, if you haven't already gotten a chest on your champion. This makes it fairly easy to quickly acquire chests if you and your premade have a diverse champion pool.
If you want keys, play and win more games. This is the time investment, key fragments are the reward for consistently playing the game, as the only dependent is winning games.
Your suggestion of being able to trade keys/chests could create a situation in which you (or a bot) could just grind games for free content. I believe this goes against the intentions of why hextech crafting was implemented, being a system designed to encourage both good and consistent play.
PaSaRoIgAs1 voteshow can you grind games for free content if you must play good to get chest, or you must win, to get keys, you cannot grind it with bot if you dont win games/get no s-;s;s+....
Lexyy1 votesYou need to play more games. I never had this problem.... and I got every chest possible.
ItsOrval1 votesKeys are supposed to be earned over time. Thats the fun of it, to last you a season. If you were just given keys with chest, then thatd be pointless to riot. Because getting chests is easy, just play a champion, farm minions, boom S-.
Riot also wants to make a profit. So when you get a chest, theyre wanting you to buy keys. Just be happy Riot gives out free chests and keys in general.
BLACK REALM GOD1 voteslet's see... you can earn 1 chest per week... you can earn x number of keys per week. key fragments cant be used for anything other than making keys... chests are random skins+... so... 5 key fragments per chest?
Lexyy1 votes"It’s possible to earn 4 keys (12 fragments) in a 4 week period. This matches the number of chests players can get."
You just have to play enough games.
Grayspike1 votesI totally agree. I'm currently sitting here with 16 chests and 0 keys