MMR Dropping For No Reason?

Coin The Legend·1/22/2015, 8:02:22 AM·4 votes·1,782 views

So here I am in silver 4, with a MMR of about 1350. I decide to take a break from ranked until season 5 starts (this was at the very beginning of January) Then season 5 finally hits and I start playing ranked again, I complete one of my provisional matches and decide to check what my mmr is, just to know where im at in the rankings and around where I will be placed. I check it and it is 1,182. So im wondering how I can drop nearly 200 mmr by winning one ranked game in the transition from season 4 to 5. It just doesnt add up to me. I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on my situation, please get back to me, thanks.

15 Comments

SliceoIrish1/22/2015, 8:19:15 AM3 votes

Went from silver 5 to bronze 4 im so depressed. went 6-4

Xonra1/22/2015, 8:05:28 AM2 votes

the reset seems to have just tanked everyone 's mmr so even if you go 10-0 you will be lower than you started. Anyone that claims otherwise is lying cause I've seen (and had it proven( that a Diamond player went from Diamond to silver 3 even going 7-3 so they seriously screwed something up and we are getting punished for some reason.

Scuttler Slayer1/22/2015, 8:46:33 AM1 votes

Less extreme example: Challenger Tier in s4 (MatLife) went 6-4. He's now in Plat 1.

Onegarion1/22/2015, 10:59:00 AM1 votes

The way I've heard it described is this:

Riot takes your MMR (1350)
Riot adds the average MMR of all Players (its around silver 3 so its roughly 1400 by your numbers)
They then divide the sum of that (1350 + 1400) by 2. (1375)
That is the MMR that you start seeding with.
Then you play your matches with increased gains/losses (even though their hidden)
Then Riot knocks you down a couple divisions for the real soft reset with increased Gains.

Thats my understanding of how most people fall for the most time.

Wullf1/22/2015, 11:07:39 AM1 votes

Well provisionals are to deretmine your MMR, you cannot be surprised if in prosecc you are given this MMR.

Recently I haev stumbled upon this article: http://squidoflegends.blogspot.cz/2015/01/making-most-of-your-placement.html

this might not be completely accurate, but it could give you some idea how it works.

EDIT: though as I read it again... it will not tell you much. So either its broken or it works diffferently

FrozenSeraph1/22/2015, 11:08:36 AM1 votes

U need to play 5 gamea for it to be accurateffective for this season when u check mmr

What Is Smite1/22/2015, 12:02:03 PM1 votes

Guys I think they might be implimenting the S4 soft MMR reset where it was (current MMR + 1200)/2 = placements starting MMR and then it would change with the numbers of wins/loss that you get during placements as a rough estimate of where you are then once you hit the range of 100-200 ranked games it would either even out your MMR or get you closer to where you actually belong

Matthias91191/22/2015, 6:58:02 PM1 votes

There's a partial MMR reset at the start of each season. Unless you are down in Bronze this will lower your MMR, and if you do not win most/all of your placements you will probably drop at least a few divisions from where you were in S4.

It's not supposed to be "I just squeaked into (silver/gold/whatever) in S4, now I can go 5-5 in placements and instantly get (silver/gold/whatever) again". You have to earn your rank each season.

OriginalDeathRow1/22/2015, 8:30:57 PM1 votes

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So here I am in silver 4, with a MMR of about 1350. I decide to take a break from ranked until season 5 starts (this was at the very beginning of January) Then season 5 finally hits and I start playing ranked again, I complete one of my provisional matches and decide to check what my mmr is, just to know where im at in the rankings and around where I will be placed. I check it and it is 1,182. So im wondering how I can drop nearly 200 mmr by winning one ranked game in the transition from season 4 to 5. It just doesnt add up to me. I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on my situation, please get back to me, thanks.

I was silver 2 last season, went 8 wins 2 losses and moved down to silver 3.....its messed up

SKT T1 Win1/22/2015, 8:16:04 AM1 votes

op.gg has its own algorithm its not what your actual mmr is in riot's system.