Together we can fix Gragas!

xXHaL0 b0y 420Xx·3/7/2015, 11:19:55 PM·17 votes·1,861 views

Greetings everyone!

REMEMBER! THIS POST IS PRIMARILY ABOUT FIXING BUGS. NOT BUFFING GRAGAS. THE BUFF IDEAS ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS. THIS POST IS 100% ABOUT FIXING BUGS REGARDING GRAGAS

I guess the best way to start this off is explaining who I am. I've been a long time League of Legends player since S1 and a Gragas player since S2. I absolutely LOVE Gragas and I find him to be one of the most versatile champions in LoL. Due to "recent" changes I find myself not playing him as much.. Don't get me wrong. I approve/disapprove of a lot of changes Riot makes, but I believe this is just a little too much.

I've been curious if these are intended changes or just overlooked? Along with this I added some known "issues" Gragas has on the new (BETA) Summoners Rift map.

Gragas

  • http://i.imgur.com/kj2l6B0.jpg Q : While I have very little issues with this ability, it seems a little ridiculous how I can build full AP and still not clear caster minions. Isn't it already hard enough for Gragas to farm against other champions as it is? I take a look at current mid lanes and I continue to ask myself why I can't clear minions with 1 Q. It has a longer CD than most mid lanes. Is it compensating the slow that is attached? That still doesn't make too much sense versus minions.

     Other champions that have zero issue farming minions using 1 ability.
    

Ahri Brand Diana Leblanc Morgana Lux Orianna Syndra Xerath I guess what I'm trying to say is farming on Gragas is truly a nightmare in real life.

  • http://i.imgur.com/Ovh3G8q.jpg W : There's not much I need to say about this. All that needs to be said is... http://i.imgur.com/Ovh3G8q.jpg + summoner 4 =summoner 31 AKA IT DOESN'T WORK. This ability shouldn't even be in the game. I don't even understand why I can't use any of my trinkets item 3341 being the most important one; while drinking. I don't think I'm wrong when I say, NO OTHER ABILITY PREVENTS YOU FROM CASTING A FLASH DURING CHANNELING. Why does this exist? I don't think this is intended.

  • http://i.imgur.com/CIfVpEz.png E : This is the one ability that needs to be changed and fixed the most. The others truly are just suggestions, but Body Slam... Gragas while I do love your Body Slam I find myself glitching a lot with it. Most of it seems to stem from the new map. Let me break this down in order.

The ability since the new change seems to have a wide beginning and end with an extremely narrow center. This causes a lot of problems with minions. I mean, a lot. **Image for reference : **http://i.imgur.com/Y8r9xAT.jpg I can see how on the design side of things it makes sense but why not change it to have a very narrow beginning and a wide end. This would make the ability usable in lane.

Now for the bugs

GRUMP! WHY?! :: Now I can recreate this bug almost perfectly now. If you are to stand slightly above grumps beautiful mane you can hit him while still charging through. This is a huge issue. Seeing how Gragas is such a terrible laner I've gone to the jungle. I don't really have too many problems with other camps just this one. Image for reference : http://i.imgur.com/tlZnKph.jpg

GRAGAS THE TIME WIZARD :: Gragas "Move over Zilean, I'm the true Time Wizard." Zilean ":(" All jokes aside, this is a huge issue. It seems when Gragas body slams over a wall that is a little too wide for him (not a fat joke) he'll make it over, then teleport back to the original spot and thus using the CD.

Let me give you an example;

Image for reference : http://i.imgur.com/pGVgGqP.jpg

Gragas starts at point A. He body slams through a wall that is slightly too big, because of how it works the game forces him through anyway. He lands at point B. For some unknown reason he teleports back to point A. Possibly because the game couldn't find him on the mesh so it moved him to the last known location? I wish I could recreate this every time it would be some crazy LCS level jukes, but I can't. It's very random but it has happened to me at these locations a few times.

So what was the point of this? To vent? Yeah, sure. But honestly I just want to see Gragas restored. I don't think these fixes would be too hard to fix. I feel like a lot of Gragas players feel somewhat discouraged like I do just due to the champion being extremely buggy. Yeah, I know he's not a good champion but the entire reason for this post was primarily created to bring awareness to the community and devs at Riot to fix this lovable oaf. I hope a Red sees this and let's us know something will be done!

Thanks you guys

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13 Comments

CaptainTatertits3/7/2015, 11:25:58 PM6 votes

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Chessburger3/8/2015, 2:04:37 AM2 votes

The W channel silencing him for 1s..... and oh my god that gromp thing has happened to me a few times and I just stood there looking stupid. And the freaking "get over a wall then blink back" what is that? that should not exist. It's also hard to reproduce... you have to be at a really precise angle to some semi wide wall...

Though out of all things: IF I COULD JUST SELF CANCEL MY W CHANNEL IF NEED BE I WOULD BE SO HAPPY (not by moving that's kinda crucial since it's 1s channel. I don't want it turned into a 1s self suppress) Just being able to use other skills or flash to cancel it would do SO MUCH for Gragas as a champion.

I like the recent attention to him though... the 10% slow does pretty much nothing but the upcoming base mana change is a welcome change due to how mana hungry he is.

Edit: there's also an annoying bug that is the most detrimental to gragas if the enemy knows of it. If you E flash on someone they can flash while stunned (not before, not after, they actually flash while stunned.) and your R goes wide knocking him in the wrong direction most likely losing you the fight. :( I'm not sure if I should be mentioning this because right now not enough people know about it.

CaptainTatertits3/7/2015, 11:22:49 PM2 votes

lmfao @ the frog pic

RoflOs3/8/2015, 1:58:42 AM1 votes

Gragas is absolutely NOT trash in lane. Go top, not mid and go full ap and youll see how good he is (even sleeper possibly)

Saint Archer3/9/2015, 1:06:09 AM1 votes

sorry i can't take anything you seriously with that name

Xtremey3/9/2015, 1:09:51 AM1 votes

looks like he's fucking the gromp 0.o

warpenguin5553/9/2015, 1:11:56 AM1 votes

lower the cd on his ult

xP00N D3STR0Y3Rx3/7/2015, 11:34:45 PM1 votes

W+summoner 4 =summoner 31 :3

Señor Karthus3/8/2015, 1:38:48 AM1 votes

I just started playing Gragas and I love him. He is not op but he is not trash. I do decently well in lane and teamfights. I think he is alright now as he is.