To All Who Blame Champion Designers For DDoS and Etc

Pair uh Dice·Aug 30, 2014·42 votes·4,190 views

The Champion Creation division and the server and tech support division have completely different workers, so the problem does not lie within the new champion creations. Please realize that Riot is outnumbered by the millions of players they are trying to please, and flaming them pointlessly is not the way to go about it. Let them do their job, how many years has this game been successful? Exactly. Let them do their jobs. And I'm not sure if anyone knows about the hacker group LizardSquad, but they have been partly the reason for the recent server DDoSing these past few weeks, and they've targeted many other popular domains. So think about what Riot has to deal with, instead of the ONE day you have to wait to play a game. A game. To Riot, it's their jobs and lives.

35 Comments

HandsLikeHousesAug 31, 20146 votes

It isn't just one day though, for some, like myself, I have not played more than 1 or 2 games a day without ANY lag or spikes in about 3 weeks now, and I've continued to show support for this game, I'm not going to keep supporting a game that continuously gets DDoSed like crazy, the fact that League is a common target shows just how bad their servers and security really is. We've already seen SONY get DDoSed again and they immediately did something about it and introduced Prolexic back into their servers. I'm not saying this is what RIOT should do, but they should really be focused on upgrading their servers and upping their security. All these DDoSers are doing this for mostly one reason: To expose corporate greed, and League has been a prime target for them to expose that greed.

MarthianAug 31, 201413 votes

Corporate Greed? Are you BLEEPING kidding me? No, they are not DDoSing Riot because of corporate greed. They are doing it because they are assholes and have nothing better to do. League of Legends can be plays 100% free, and you can still do very well. Riot Games actively listens (AND RESPONDS) to their community.

Nexon doesn't give a crap at all about their community, McDonalds has a lot going for them, Electronic Arts/Activision keep quickly releasing buggy games, Microsoft is constantly making companies/customers upgrade infrastructure (breaking most of them in the process), Apple charges a crap load more simply for the name, just about any Cellphone company drastically marks up data costs, and heavens knows how many other companies are greedy. Why are they not being DDoS'd?

It's a company's job to make money (how else will they stay afloat?) but there is a way to do so AND be great towards customers, and Riot Games is one of those companies that respect their community.

OneLoveDrewAug 31, 20142 votes

You make an excellent point!

JimmyyyAug 31, 20141 votes

I'm with you, Marthian... The reason Riot is being DDoSed is because they are an easier target. And that's because they aren't scamming and stealing money from people like other companies. Riot has to pay employees, give compensation for bugs in certain cases, and has to spend money constantly going to events, creating events (eSports) and sponsoring events. They have their own sponsors, but they still have to pay for things with money that comes from their community. Do people know what that means? No, but I can tell you. I can tell you that means it's our choice to pay them, as a community, and it's our choice to keep this game going. If this game was so bad, nobody would pay for any aspect of it, and Riot would lose money for things I stated earlier like eSports, employees, and events. That means a loss of sponsors, which means the loss of a company. Money is literally everything when it comes to modern life.

A Dove Like YouAug 31, 20143 votes

yup because it isn't like any other company has been ddos'd lately, not like runescape wasn't taken down, steam, dota 2, the list goes on. Sony has been taken down so many times and you use them as an example? There are only a few options for riot to take, the can buy a shit ton of bandwidth and have a massive amount of servers so that a group couldn't take them down unless they had an enormous amount of resources, the other option is put security measures that would increase ping by 80-150 at the very least. Either option will have a huge negative on the players, option 1 means a huge financial strain on Riot they will likely need to find some way to make up that cost, option 2 means everyone is playing with shitty ping and then there is just no reason to play anyways

JHoff23Aug 31, 20141 votes

It isn't just one day though, for some, like myself, I have not played more than 1 or 2 games a day without ANY lag or spikes in about 3 weeks now, and I've continued to show support for this game, I'm not going to keep supporting a game that continuously gets DDoSed like crazy, the fact that League is a common target shows just how bad their servers and security really is. We've already seen SONY get DDoSed again and they immediately did something about it and introduced Prolexic back into their servers. I'm not saying this is what RIOT should do, but they should really be focused on upgrading their servers and upping their security. All these DDoSers are doing this for mostly one reason: To expose corporate greed, and League has been a prime target for them to expose that greed.

From what I understand they aren't attacking the servers directly, rather the DDoS attacks are targets at Riot's ISPs. Riot has no control over that, and that's on the ISP

JimmyyyAug 31, 20141 votes

I'm not going to keep supporting a game that continuously gets DDoSed like crazy, the fact that League is a common target shows just how bad their servers and security really is.

Because it's their fault you people don't give them time to actually deal with the problem...
Have you ever been yelled at for not doing something that somebody with authority over you says to do, and then next time they tell you to do it you are, but they still yell at you? You're that authority, yelling at people that are already doing their job.

acepil0tSep 1, 20141 votes

Pay2Win games are corporate greed... you can play this game with all the functional stuff the pros use without spending a dime. Call that corporate greed?

chide da junglerSep 1, 20141 votes

You dont understand what DDoS is at all if you think Riot has some way of fixing it with hardware or willpower.

Cloud PotatoAug 31, 20146 votes

A lot of people don't understand a thing about DDoS. It's a part of the reason why people do it. Trolling is so much more effective when it makes people say stupid things.

John BerserkAug 31, 20145 votes

It's like when people blame Bill Gates for poor customer support from Microsoft or something.

Lolicon LickAug 30, 20144 votes

i joined this communiity not too long ago ( 6-7 motnhs ago) and honestly i cant say im ashammed or disappointed in the staff at all, they are the most responsive staff members of a game community i have ever seen in my life

MyAccountYouGuysAug 30, 20143 votes

People have been blaming the Champion division for server issues? When? I, quite literally, cannot believe someone would say that.

Pair uh DiceAug 30, 20142 votes

2 hours ago a person posted on the forums blaming the releases of new champions being the problem because they wouldn't be "focused" on server issues, when clearly it is a separate division that works on these things.

JHoff23Aug 31, 20143 votes

2 hours ago a person posted on the forums blaming the releases of new champions being the problem because they wouldn't be "focused" on server issues, when clearly it is a separate division that works on these things.

Its like how they always say "stahp with the skinz plz, fiz ur server rito"

SirHalenbaneAug 31, 20143 votes

Well all I know is a company that makes millions upon millions of dollars can invest more into a team that has the sole job of combating the hackers. Having trouble with hackers? Hire better hackers/programmers. The fact that a mega corporation like Riot can be brought to their knees by some sniveling little hackers, is disgusting.

Nex AfireAug 31, 20146 votes

A DDoS attack is no where near being hacked, its just merely an overload of packages of information being sent to the servers. People can just pay for a service like that and there is no much a company can do about it. And for some reason the whole Mega corporation made me laugh.

MarthianAug 31, 20143 votes

Except they aren't a mega-corporation. Their only product is League of Legends.

Mega-corporation sounds like Wal-mart, McDonalds, or any other franchise out there.

MessaigaAug 31, 20143 votes

Just in case none of you were aware, LizardSquad disbanded (in the sense that they won't be DDOS'ing anymore). They shouldn't be a problem any longer, so I guess that is something to be happy about.

ChaøtixAug 30, 20142 votes

I couldn't have said it better my self. Especially the last couple of sentences.

PurpleKingCrazyAug 30, 20142 votes

"Ddos and etc."

I think you did it wrong...

DuffyAug 31, 20142 votes

There is no 100% surefire way to beat DDoS, you need more processing power than them or the ability to cut the node that's the source of the traffic out of your network. You can resist them, but it's nigh impossible to stop them without disconnecting them from the network and that is very very hard to do quickly.

TeddieAug 30, 20141 votes

I think it was just that one guy lol

Pair uh DiceAug 30, 20142 votes

There were more in the past few weeks but yeah that one guy is included lol

TeddieAug 30, 20143 votes

Like where do these people come from XD

MarthianAug 31, 20141 votes

possibly the same type of people that are DDoSing the servers right now.

JHoff23Aug 31, 20141 votes

possibly the same type of people that are DDoSing the servers right now.

plot twist, the same people raging about "OMG rito sucks" are the same people causing the problem in the first place.

Rod SlingerAug 31, 20141 votes

i've paid more than 300 dollars to riot, and although i agree with you... They have to fix the shitt and do it soon. i wont buy any more rp till they fix it. we all should do the same, i love this game but fix it ffs. we are giving you money. because i dont want to hear that what im saying doesnt make sense or is wrong in some way let me say i understand that its not a simple process but all im saying is riot wont get any more of my money, ive paid plenty. Maybe if we all stopped paying money to Riot they would make a bigger deal about the Ddos'ing, both the punishment and fixing why they get Ddos

JHoff23Aug 31, 20142 votes

i've paid more than 300 dollars to riot, and although i agree with you... They have to fix the shitt and do it soon. i wont buy any more rp till they fix it. we all should do the same, i love this game but fix it ffs. we are giving you money. because i dont want to hear that what im saying doesnt make sense or is wrong in some way let me say i understand that its not a simple process but all im saying is riot wont get any more of my money, ive paid plenty. Maybe if we all stopped paying money to Riot they would make a bigger deal about the Ddos'ing, both the punishment and fixing why they get Ddos

Pretty sure the attacks are targeting Riot's ISP rather than Riot itself.

SalganosAug 31, 20141 votes

It would probably help a lot if the North American internet infrastructure weren't becoming an embarrassment with its corporate extortion, squabbling, and negligence. It would be much better at handling this sort of shit, one way or another.

But it would help a lot more if humans weren't prone to being nasty self-obsessed chimpanzees. That would be less "two birds with one stone" than "anti-air flak artillery aimed at a goose migration".

Usernamehere1235Aug 31, 20141 votes

League might be a big game, but it doesn't make as much money as you think it does.
Free to play games have notable cash loss because of their models against MMOs that charge per month for play.
League, per 100 playerbase, makes much less money than World of Warcraft.
Not to mention, there really is no security against DDoS. I mean, you can hire a company with bigger servers who can take the heat, but that gets exponentially expensive due to the server size that Riot has.
There are some security measures otherwise, but they become extremely expensive.
Riot's pockets really aren't full of cash like you might think. Their game costs a lot of money in every aspect, and their workforce not only does great work, but is massive.

GrimieeSep 1, 20141 votes

What about being stuck in loading screen while everyone else loads in. Thats no ones fault but Riots.

acepil0tSep 1, 20141 votes

Another thing is that although DDoS'ing is really annoying and makes you want to punch the perpetrator in the gut, it isn't all that bad of an attack. It doesn't cause much (if any) permanent damage, and usually only lasts for a couple hours, or maybe a day. it's a denial of service, not an account hack or anything malignant toward data. So really, get over it. They are working to keep it from happening, but while it does you will just have to live with the fact that the system isn't perfect, just like the rest of the world. Be glad the servers are up as much as they are :)