[PETITION] Put off new champions for fullscale relaunches of old champs

Father Cthulhu·6/8/2015, 12:07:48 AM·120 votes·4,109 views

Just wanted to see how many people are willing to put the group that works on new champions towards doing full scale reworks on the really old ones. Shaco Warwick Brand Evelynn DrMundo Kayle Mordekaiser Poppy Urgot Yorick For those that say "It'd be boring since we don't have any new champions" get a complete rework and rerelease of a champion is basically the same thing.

99 Comments

ItsGflow6/8/2015, 2:28:53 AM31 votes

As far as I'm aware they are completely different teams, I believe I saw a Red post saying that a while ago, but I could be wrong.

Maximum Zilean6/8/2015, 4:05:02 AM21 votes

Brand on the list for a full scale rework? He's actually the only one you listed that is actually stable in his current state. He's like Vel'koz, immobile, but kills everything if left to do so.

He is actually in a pretty good spot.

CharQueen6/8/2015, 12:35:33 AM5 votes

Considering how most of the 'new' champs are broken-boring trash, I am totally up for reuniting the goldie oldie.

These new champs sparkle with that scene-kid-hipster gleam. I miss seeing champs who reminded me of good ole' reused WoW3 RTS models.

Chespin20136/8/2015, 5:34:57 AM5 votes

but shaco and brand are fine the way are they are now I don't want them to get veigered

Emperor Time6/8/2015, 2:05:48 AM5 votes

I don't want evelynn reworked, she's fucking perfect the way she is. I swear if rito completely change her kit i'll be very very very upset >:(.

Tannhäuser Gate6/8/2015, 2:04:28 AM4 votes

Kayle shaco brand mundo and morde are fine and not that toxic in the way that poppy or urgot is

Transgressor6/8/2015, 1:55:59 PM4 votes

No, because updating pre-established champions is not the same as keeping the game fresh and introducing new champions/thematics/mechanics/narrative(not a joke)/art. A complete relaunch of a champion is not the same as a new release, because updated champions keep their core identities whereas new champions introduce new things to the table. Sion remained an undead juggernaut, and the game got it's first emperor from a bygone age: Azir. Tristana got updated to match how yordles are now concieved thematicaly, and we got our first prehistoric yordle: Gnar.

Poppy's update will not change her from a yordle to a bionic cyber warrior princess in order to keep her core identity the same, and we get to enjoy a new release with a champion that's a bionic cyber warrior princess. Besides, the team that creates champions are COMPLETELY SEPERATE from the team that updates champions.

Kiabo Bandit6/8/2015, 6:21:16 AM3 votes

You do know that riot won't listen to your idea in this petition because of your use of profanity, after all RIOT Games is a Business who also wants their content to be clean and if you want to get a business' attention then use intelligent words and phrases instead of being toxic with profanity or your forum won't have any meaning in their eyes because your are just being ignorant.

Fried Noob6/8/2015, 2:35:06 AM3 votes

Most of those champions don't need full scale relaunches. They are fine/could be slightly better through slight buffs. Also, have you ever heard the phrase too many chefs? Just throwing more people at the problem doesn't mean it'll get done faster.

thePandev6/8/2015, 4:37:33 AM3 votes

Yorick, Urgot, Poopy and WW are the only ones there who need full on reworks. Morde is very close to that line, although I love him and love playing him.

Shaco is extremely hard to play properly, Mundo is a really good jungler ATM IMO, Brand is fine, Eve needs some number adjustments, and Kayle needs some buffs.

But if it's champion I can't leave out, it's this bitch Elise. She needs Jesus (Zilean Hue)

originary916/8/2015, 8:00:00 AM3 votes

Evelynn doesn't need a bloody relaunch. :( Just give her the old W passive back. Why does Shaco need a relaunch? Brand too? Or Mundo for that matter...

LostFr0st6/8/2015, 5:24:03 PM3 votes

I believe the people working on these re-works are people that actually have experience and know the history behind said champions. Re-works are constrained by a champ's identity whereas new champs can be outside that box.

Completely different problems to work on.

For example: Let's say they implemented this before Gnar , thereby pushing up Poppy 's re-work-- and the guy who came up with Gnar's ultimate ended up putting it on Poppy because there was nowhere he could put it. AOE heroic charge would be tremendously scary. Just a thought.

-LostFr0st

Tabs6/8/2015, 7:39:11 PM3 votes

My Shaco :,(

P0IS0N IVY6/8/2015, 5:34:05 AM2 votes

I'm perfectly fine with Brand and Morde. I don't play any of the other champs.

And I thought the sheep were calling Urgot OP.

brian rad6/8/2015, 4:25:21 AM2 votes

Some of those champs you listed dont even need a full scale relaunch.....

SpecterVonBaren6/8/2015, 12:13:44 PM2 votes

Brand What? While he could maybe use some changes, Brand is far FAR from needing a Sion level rework.

FluffehPoro6/8/2015, 12:31:05 PM1 votes

I would like updates on old champs that cant fit in the meta anymore and are never used or that are so weak.... No one wants to pick them like...

Aatrox Anivia Elise Elise Elise Galio Kayle Olaf Poppy Rammus Shen Skarner Taric Taric Taric Urgot Urgot Yorick Yorick

Lowvyr6/9/2015, 3:12:31 PM1 votes

I like Shaco and I think his kit is fine, but he is an annoying little prick.

BakugoBestBoy6/9/2015, 1:05:58 PM1 votes

Better Petition, Rito hire more awesome designers so you can just do both. There, problem solved.

Eleshakai6/9/2015, 5:30:42 PM1 votes

I don't think that stopping releasing new champs would really speed up the rework schedule much, honestly.

LICENSED HOOKER6/9/2015, 10:50:03 PM1 votes

266 people so far riot, your move..