Today marks one year of this account being banned for scripting.

qawr·Oct 25, 2015·3 votes·1,611 views

I know when you read this you are all thinking something of, "good riddance you are ruining the game for others." And I agree people that cheat ruin the game but what I was doing was different. Some of you may remember that ashe exploit that made funny things happen. Everytime brand auto attacked it made him ult. Corkis auto attacks were replaced with ults as well. Vaynes E became her auto attack and a bunch of other cool things. When I saw that I wanted to try it out so I found the program to use it and went to do it with friends. I didn't want to ruin the game for anyone else so I thought just playing custom games would be ok. But I guess not. I tried explaining the situation to support and they just told me they didn't care.

I still think it's crazy that I am banned forever over something like this.

What do you guys think?

26 Comments

HobbsgoblinOct 25, 20153 votes

"I broke rules that I agreed to follow, but it was okay because X"

Errrrr nah man, that doesn't fly.

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

I agree that I shouldn't have done it I just think the penalty was super stiff.

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

why are you agreeing for doing nothing wrong but breaking a hitler rule? You are like that one person that didn't follow hitler in germany and didnt become a nazi because you thought "well this seems wrong"

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

I don't think what I did was wrong morally or in a way that impacted league but it's something that I shouldn't have done. I wasn't ever toxic to people ( as fair as I can remember) and didn't ever try to just break rules for the sake of breaking them.

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

ignorant thinking. What if obama made it a law to kill your father. would you do it because you would be breaking the rules if you didnt and dont want to go to jail or does it sound too stupid? This is the type of person that would have been persuaded and followed hitler if he was born in germany 1940

HobbsgoblinOct 26, 20151 votes

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ignorant thinking. What if obama made it a law to kill your father. would you do it because you would be breaking the rules if you didnt and dont want to go to jail or does it sound too stupid? This is the type of person that would have been persuaded and followed hitler if he was born in germany 1940

Your post is complete and utter nonsense and heres the break down as to why: Step 1; League- A rule was established before he started playing the game Obama- When Obama was running a campaign he stated nothing about having people kill their father HItler- When Hitler was in power in 1940 if I was born in 1940 I would be an infant

Step 2; League- He agreed to follow these rules as a prerequisite to play Obama- Whether an incumbent president makes a ludicrous executive order or not is completely outside of my scope of control Hitler- As a 3 year old German in 1943 I no longer shit in a diaper, re-usable cloth diapers I assume given the decade, I even proudly pee in the potty while standing up

Step 3; League- He broke the rules and as a result lost his account Obama- The killing by my father of me will not occur as that is insane and I wouldn't be worried about jail as no one in their right mind would enforce this Hitler- 1945 I am five whole years old now, I do not always listen to my parents still as I don't fully comprehend the world around me but that guy with the funny mustache is dead and gosh if that whole reich didn't breeze right by me.

An example maybe on your level; If you told me "You can stay at my house if you don't shit in the chairs" and I came over and shitted in the chairs you would kick me out. Should I protest your rules as arbitrary because the chair isn't a person so shitting in it harmed no one? No, thats stupid.

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

I don't think its crazy knowing riot. Make vague rules so that even if you do something harmless we can still ban your account and make you spend more money on a new account which we know we will do. They just take advantage of people idk why people haven't see that yet. It's all about money for them man people don't care about anything else. If everyone stopped doing stuff that is breaking their shit code they would just keep adding more weird and strict shit so that they can keep banning accounts and raking in money. Why do you think you cant advertise help people coach for money, account share ect. There are so many people playing the game yet they have little rules that don't make sense other than for money. "sharing accounts would make ranked unfair ect" yeah like it isnt now? people just duo boost and do that shit anyways saying you cant wont stop them . Thats just an example but yeah its just about money

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

I like riot as a company for the most part. I don't think of this as some money grab or something. Normally they are pretty good at handling things. What I did was breaking the TOS but I think a permanent ban for something that hurt no one and affected no one else is silly. I could have understood a month long ban.

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

Then you havent played since early season 2 like i have. Once they got the money they changed ask any old time player. If it wasn't about the money they wouldn't have a reason to ban your account. It's not like you are gonna post you broke t.o.s and anyone can believe you or do anything. It wouldn't effect them at all to not ban you except their wallets. It's like going 1 mph over the speed limit on a road with no cars just a cop on the other side of the road except for riots the cop, most cops would just let you go but riot pulled you over and gave you a ticket and said see you in court because they are also the judge and the jury. Fair huh? People with power always let it go to their heads since they are immune.

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

I started playing at the end of S2 iirc vi was just being released. And as I said I should have been in trouble for breaking the TOS just not as harshly. I didn't go spend money on another account but I would have spent more money on this one. If they only cared about money they wouldn't care if people were breaking rules.

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

its not about it being a fucking rule its about how it impacts nobody and is retarded. This wouldnt happen in the real world because the government wouldnt be allowed a dumb rule that effects nobody. Your getting north korea'd brainwashed into believing "well they are the rules so thats justifiable" was hitler and his followers justified because he made it the rules that all jews should die? or did someone do something to stop then i cant quite remember (^:

JubbinautOct 25, 20151 votes

You realize Godwin's Law is not a challenge, right?

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

What other good comparison would you use? Who made a dictatorship rule that was only relevant to himself and brain washed millions? why would i use someone like saddam or castro? why not use the perfect example? Godwin was a retard because I use hitler as an example for alot of things in real life even when it comes to rules/politics because he was an extremely influential if not the most influential leader in history. Not in a good way obviously but he was. That's like saying the longer something goes on about good players the higher chance of someone to talk about michael jordan... well no fucking shit really? woulda never guessed.

JubbinautOct 25, 20151 votes

Way to entirely miss the point. Good job. Well done.

KaeblenOct 25, 20151 votes

I'm glad to see you have read through and cared enough to make so many responses.
you are taking this too far.
you are being openly hostile to other players.
If you think governments "wouldn't be allowed a dumb rule that effects nobody" you haven't been paying attention to politics.
Rules are rules. You don't always have to follow the rules, but** if you accept that a given rule is 'good'**--such as banning accounts which run bots in normal and ranked games, etc--than you don't leave yourself with much room to complain about those same rules later on.
Public Relations Departments; as much as they are considered evil, unfair, biased, lazy, and a number of other things that are probably true; are made to recognize and assess widespread problems, and get them fixed. (The fact that PR can't actually fix most of these but just report issues to other departments means some things never get fixed) The issue here is a very narrow case [scripts running in custom games]. because it's narrow, it's likely never going to be looked at by someone who knows how to fix it. because of THAT it's actually not looked at by someone who knows how difficult the issue is to fix either. It's simply the nature of the beast. I may not like it much either, but this just isn't the kind of issue you can call in to IT support about.
Money Is Not Evil. If you enjoy playing the game, you should not be complaining about Riot trying to make money.
You have very quickly made yourself sound like someone likely to do this yourself. Someone who has a mind to, or knows how to write these kind of scripts. I don't condemn that, so don't start thinking that way. How would I learn something like that? are there tutorials I could watch? or something of that sort? (I probably wouldn't use it for this game, but I'd like to know)

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

Yeah he kinda was taking this too far lol

3tysonOct 25, 20151 votes

it be cool if there was a game mode where scripts be allowed for people stuck in elo hell

since if your stuck in elo hell you feel like your not learning annything new its your team mates who keep you down and than you could go to the cheater game and play against people with lcs mechanics and see how far ur stil away from it :P

dunno how effective scripts r dont think i ever met one in silver elo :P

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

Well the thing that makes this worse is I never got to do anything fun with the ashe exploit. I was doing it for my friends. I didn't even get to have an advantage over those bots. If anything the bots had an easier time because I had to play ashe lol.

tonzillacrayonOct 25, 20151 votes

scripts wont help that low of elo players, the only difference is they can hit skillshots which they never could before you cant bot decision making.

3tysonOct 25, 20151 votes

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scripts wont help that low of elo players, the only difference is they can hit skillshots which they never could before you cant bot decision making.

i ment so u could play against sccripters without using scripts urself getting yourself better enemys lol

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

One thing I forgot to add and I would kinda like an employee to talk about this but when I was emailing them about this is just felt like they were just like "nah you broke the rules we aren't going to talk to you."

Live2LetDieOct 25, 20151 votes

Permanent ban is rightfully given. You modified their code to give you an advantage. Doesn't matter if you even used it. You ran it, it modified the code, permanent ban.

It's like vac, you can get insta vac just by starting the hack and connecting to their server.

qawrOct 25, 20151 votes

But on CSGO if I am hacking offline with bots should I be banned forever? I think the issue with scripting is it ruins the game for others because it does. I've played lux against someone that was scripting and it was like I wasn't even playing league for a game. In my case I didn't ruin anyone elses game. Wasn't all for one an exploit at one point? IIRC you used to be able to play some modded game mode and all it did was add to the game for people not hurt anyone. That's how I viewed this.

Live2LetDieOct 25, 20151 votes

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But on CSGO if I am hacking offline with bots should I be banned forever? I think the issue with scripting is it ruins the game for others because it does. I've played lux against someone that was scripting and it was like I wasn't even playing league for a game. In my case I didn't ruin anyone elses game. Wasn't all for one an exploit at one point? IIRC you used to be able to play some modded game mode and all it did was add to the game for people not hurt anyone. That's how I viewed this.

Like i said it doesn't matter if you played a game or not. You modified the companies process and deserve to be perms banned for it. Simple as that