Permabans are way too harsh!

gorom5··1 votes·386 views

Honestly Riot no matter what someone does permabans are never the option because if people get frustrated by the game so bad they can just release all kinds of negative emotions and do stupid stuff because that they definitely do love this game and ofcourse players should be punished for breaking the code but permabans are just way too harsh, I'd rather have consecutive 14-days ban because the permaban wastes all the effort, time, emotions and maybe even money that the players spend on their accounts which usually results in the players making new accounts and pissing others off while within the rules of the game so others that get frustrated enough to break the rules get the same punishment as those that broke the rules of the game. My voice will propably get ignored but I honestly prefer all permabans get cleansed and permabans get removed from the game unless stuff like scrips or hacks took place. On the other hand though, I think that if a player quits the game that player shouldn't be able to reconnect after a set amount of time that scales with the length of the game and the player's team should gain all the gold and exp of that player so they atleast have everything the player owns expect for the champ and that kind of stuff. And I thought about a way to stop trolls which is allowing the team to vote one player away, if all 4 agree on it the players gets kicked out of the game and punished and maybe you should allow others to join the game in their place?

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Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Permabans are only for those that repeatedly refuse to adhere to the rules, or drastically cross the line too far.

If a permaban is too harsh, then those people would have stopped what they were doing when they got a temporary ban now wouldn't they? But they don't, so the temp ban apparently isn't enough for them to learn their lesson.

If they just make a new account and continue their behavior, that means not even a permaban is enough.

gorom51 votes

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Permabans are only for those that repeatedly refuse to adhere to the rules, or drastically cross the line too far.

If a permaban is too hard, then those people would have stopped what they were doing when they got a temporary ban now wouldn't they? But they don't, so the temp ban apparently isn't enough for them to learn their lesson.

If they just make a new account and continue their behavior, that means not even a permaban is enough.

Some people need more time to reform their behaviour because they're used to it, the system permabans after 3 punishments and it's not like you get a warning before your punishment it's just instant as far as I know.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

Sometimes punishments don't get people to change their unacceptable behavior and people just need to be removed.

gorom51 votes

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Sometimes punishments don't get people to change their unacceptable behavior and people just need to be removed.

That is exactly why I prefer the consecutive 14 days ban if they return after their ban 1 toxic game and they banned again it's the same as getting permabanned but you still have to option to change.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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That is exactly why I prefer the consecutive 14 days ban if they return after their ban 1 toxic game and they banned again it's the same as getting permabanned but you still have to option to change.

Why let those players in the 1 game they play before getting banned again suffer at the mercy of someone you know is going to repeat their offense?

At some point there's no reason to think someone will change.

gorom51 votes

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Why let those players in the 1 game they play before getting banned again at the mercy of someone?

At some point there's no reason to think someone will change.

If the player keeps coming back after the consecutive 14-days ban it definitely means they like the game but if they need to wait 2 weeks to play the game everytime I doubt if they will keep up their negative behaviour though.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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If the player keeps coming back after the consecutive 14-days ban it definitely means they like the game but if they need to wait 2 weeks to play the game everytime I doubt if they will keep up their negative behaviour though.

That's exactly what I would say about the first 3, non perma ban punishments they went through first. Yet they continue.

It does mean they like the game, but why should anyone care about that? You know who else likes the game, people who had the unfortunate experience of being in the games with the person who had to be perma banned.

gorom51 votes

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That's exactly what I would say about the first 3, non perma ban punishments they went through first. Yet they continue.

It does mean they like the game, but why should anyone care about that? You know who else likes the game, people who had the unfortunate experience of being in the games with the person who had to be perma banned.

Thanks for this feedback, reminded me of something I had forgotten, ofcourse toxic players can simply get countered by clicking the mute button BUT intentional feeders and AFKs are ANOTHER story. I think that if a player quits the game that player shouldn't be able to reconnect after a set amount of time that scales with the length of the game and the player's team should gain all the gold and exp of that player so they atleast have everything the player owns expect for the champ and that kind of stuff.

Tysmin1 votes

i disagree when people get permabanned for cheating

gorom51 votes

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i disagree when people get permabanned for cheating

Honestly cheating in a video game is wrong in each and every way we're playing this game for fun and as we all know it's less fun if you jump into solo queue just to get completely dominated in 5v1 fight cheating should be punished hard what's the fun in playing a video game if you're not even improving nor are you playing yourself?

Tysmin1 votes

yeah if people really believed that cheats wouldn't exist

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