Honestly fudge(uck) riot

PedramCarter·Jan 24, 2015·1 votes·1,199 views

Placing me with shitty ass players from wood 5 I'm not no pro but all this bullshit down syndromed level low IQ plays dont happen in bronze no mater how much people compare bronze and silver, people are literally r%%%%%ed, troll picks chasing people into obvious baits, feeding hardcore a level 10 chasing a level 14 with low hp and dying to a level 14... fuc.k this fu.ck riot I'm out peace, keep your shitty strategy to keep people playing to yourself by moving them into bronze given them false hope that they can move up.

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OhBoyItsaMegamanJan 24, 20157 votes

I'm seeing a lot of people making basically the same post..."I was Silver, and after my placements I got put in low Bronze, wtf." Here's the deal: you weren't in Silver.

Go to your op.gg profile and look at the details on the games that you played before the reset. Those players in your games are all listed as Bronze 3, Bronze 4, Bronze 5. (That's where they are now, not what they were at the time you played them.) Why? Because you were Bronze 3 or Bronze 4, and you were matched with other people who were just as unskilled. The Silver border that you earned at the end of the season was a trophy for having won the promos out of Bronze I at one point. After that point, you fell down into low Bronze. Your profile still said Silver 5, but that's not where your MMR was.

The people in your games right now are not that different than the people you were playing. Yes, there are some showing up who are better and some showing up who are worse—that is the natural result of doing a reset, even a soft reset. The difference is that your deceptive Silver badge finally got removed and your actual place on the ladder is now showing. If you want it back, earn it back. If you can't get wins, learn. And if you honestly don't believe that hundreds of games of ranked accurately measures your skill, why were you proud of the Silver medal you just lost? (And why are you playing ranked at all?)

PedramCarterJan 25, 20152 votes

I'd rather play with b2-b3 players honestly these people are retards.

Red9For LEON2Jan 25, 20151 votes

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I'm seeing a lot of people making basically the same post..."I was Silver, and after my placements I got put in low Bronze, wtf." Here's the deal: you weren't in Silver.

Go to your op.gg profile and look at the details on the games that you played before the reset. Those players in your games are all listed as Bronze 3, Bronze 4, Bronze 5. (That's where they are now, not what they were at the time you played them.) Why? Because you were Bronze 3 or Bronze 4, and you were matched with other people who were just as unskilled. The Silver border that you earned at the end of the season was a trophy for having won the promos out of Bronze I at one point. After that point, you fell down into low Bronze. Your profile still said Silver 5, but that's not where your MMR was.

The people in your games right now are not that different than the people you were playing. Yes, there are some showing up who are better and some showing up who are worse—that is the natural result of doing a reset, even a soft reset. The difference is that your deceptive Silver badge finally got removed and your actual place on the ladder is now showing. If you want it back, earn it back. If you can't get wins, learn. And if you honestly don't believe that hundreds of games of ranked accurately measures your skill, why were you proud of the Silver medal you just lost? (And why are you playing ranked at all?)

And what about losing 3 promo games in a row while going 2.0/3.0 and easily doing the best on your team? Its called elo hell my friend. People who say it doesn't exist are the ones with decent duo's...

OhBoyItsaMegamanJan 25, 20152 votes

Consistently losing games over and over while doing "the best on your team" means two things. It means you're not as good as the average player at that MMR, and it means you are contributing to those losses despite your feelings about how well you did compared to your teammates.

Losing 3 games in a row while doing "the best on your team" means zero things. It's a 3 game loss streak. That could be due to afks, trolls, lag, smurfs, wildly unbalanced teams, or just plain back luck. Being 0–3 does not mean the system is unfair or broken, it means you lost 3 games. They're not the only 3 games you'll play this season, so just try to do better on the next 500.

Red9For LEON2Jan 25, 20151 votes

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Consistently losing games over and over while doing "the best on your team" means two things. It means you're not as good as the average player at that MMR, and it means you are contributing to those losses despite your feelings about how well you did compared to your teammates.

Losing 3 games in a row while doing "the best on your team" means zero things. It's a 3 game loss streak. That could be due to afks, trolls, lag, smurfs, wildly unbalanced teams, or just plain back luck. Being 0–3 does not mean the system is unfair or broken, it means you lost 3 games. They're not the only 3 games you'll play this season, so just try to do better on the next 500.

That is a bunch of bullshit. Consistently losing games while doing the best on your team means that you are BETTER than the people you are playing with and therefore better than the people at that MMR. Secondly, no matter how good you do you will always contribute to your team losing in some way or another. No such thing as a perfect game. But that is totally irrelevant. If you are dominating your lane, roaming to other lanes, taking towers, and generally doing your role well yet still lose then its not your fault. You can try to shove that crock of garbage "carry harder" down my throat, but ultimately its the 7-15 Twisted Fates that lost you the game, not your inability to play the roles of 2/3 champs.

Also, 3 games means a lot when its promos. I'm at the 30% mark. So even though I'm doing well every game I'm still going to get shit placement. The system is flawed. It doesn't change throughout the season. Last season I got placed at Silver III and worked to Gold V with no duo. Now I'm down to Silver V (an entire division) and dropping. I do well in 90% of my games. But this isn't CoD. Me doing well can't win us games unless the rest of the team can at least function. So why then am I judged solely on win loss? Its not accurate.

OhBoyItsaMegamanJan 25, 20153 votes

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That is a bunch of bullshit. Consistently losing games while doing the best on your team means that you are BETTER than the people you are playing with and therefore better than the people at that MMR. Secondly, no matter how good you do you will always contribute to your team losing in some way or another. No such thing as a perfect game. But that is totally irrelevant. If you are dominating your lane, roaming to other lanes, taking towers, and generally doing your role well yet still lose then its not your fault. You can try to shove that crock of garbage "carry harder" down my throat, but ultimately its the 7-15 Twisted Fates that lost you the game, not your inability to play the roles of 2/3 champs.

I don't believe in telling people to "carry harder". I do think that's a crock of shit too. My deal isn't "carry harder", it's "be better at the game". In all aspects. Not just getting kills, taking towers, and doing your role, but all aspects of the game.

If you were on a static team and always did the best, then yes you could get away with saying that the losses aren't your fault. But in this case, you're being put into games with new people. And after every loss, the skill levels of all other 9 players goes down a bit. Your teammates get worse and so do all 5 opponents. If you were still consistently on the losing team the majority of the time as you descend, that itself would be proof that you're not better than the people at that MMR. You're losing to the people at that MMR; that's why yours goes down.

Also, 3 games means a lot when its promos. I'm at the 30% mark. So even though I'm doing well every game I'm still going to get shit placement. The system is flawed. It doesn't change throughout the season. Last season I got placed at Silver III and worked to Gold V with no duo. Now I'm down to Silver V (an entire division) and dropping. I do well in 90% of my games. But this isn't CoD. Me doing well can't win us games unless the rest of the team can at least function. So why then am I judged solely on win loss? Its not accurate.

I also have 3 placement losses so far. I'm 1-3 (not on this account). If the rest of the promos go the same way, I will probably drop from Gold I down to Silver I or lower. I'm not upset about it, because climbing is not hard. It's not always fast—I'm not going to go on a 19-win streak to get back to Gold I by Wednesday. It takes time. But it's not hard.

Red9For LEON2Jan 26, 20151 votes

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I don't believe in telling people to "carry harder". I do think that's a crock of shit too. My deal isn't "carry harder", it's "be better at the game". In all aspects. Not just getting kills, taking towers, and doing your role, but all aspects of the game.

If you were on a static team and always did the best, then yes you could get away with saying that the losses aren't your fault. But in this case, you're being put into games with new people. And after every loss, the skill levels of all other 9 players goes down a bit. Your teammates get worse and so do all 5 opponents. If you were still consistently on the losing team the majority of the time as you descend, that itself would be proof that you're not better than the people at that MMR. You're losing to the people at that MMR; that's why yours goes down.

I also have 3 placement losses so far. I'm 1-3 (not on this account). If the rest of the promos go the same way, I will probably drop from Gold I down to Silver I or lower. I'm not upset about it, because climbing is not hard. It's not always fast—I'm not going to go on a 19-win streak to get back to Gold I by Wednesday. It takes time. But it's not hard.

Ah, if only that were true. Maybe climbing isn't had when you've got a good duo. Having 2 people carrying isn't that bad. But being solo it just isn't the case. Also, the numbers don't lie. People's skill goes down on both sides, yes, but that doesn't mean its even. It only takes 1 shitty feeder to throw a game. 1 champ who can't land their abilities. Want proof? Here are the scores of my ranked matches since the new season.

panth: 18-5-6 L morg: 5-0-6 W yi: 12-12-8 L Garen 13-4-2 L Yi: 15-9-9 L

I'm 1 for 5 and did exceptionally well 4/5 times. My WORST score was going even! And do you want to know the rest of the team's score for that game? They were ALL negative. The TF mid was pulling a 0.5 k/d. Now, k/d doesn't mean much in a game where assists are just as important, but dying is directly giving money to the other team. Look at it in terms of NET cash. I'm doing well. thats +gold. I've got 4 other kids doing shitty. thats 4x(-gold). I'm in the fuking red.

So I'm gonna get placed in fukin bronze even when it is ABUNDANTLY clear that I am better than the average player at that level? Garbage. Win/loss is garbage. Your theories are garbage. You are not living in the real world my friend. A shitty teammate can throw a game for you. You NEED an individual stat to make the ranking system fair and accurate. Its the only way.

OhBoyItsaMegamanJan 26, 20151 votes

For what it is worth, I have never queued for ranked with another player. I always play ranked solo.

A shitty teammate can throw a game. A shitty teammate cannot throw 500 games. Over the course of hundreds of games, the other team's going to get just as many bad players as you did. You don't see the enemy team's feeders all over your match history?

Having a positive K/D/A in Bronze is really not that difficult. There are a lot of people who average a high K/D/A in Bronze but cannot get out because stomping in lane is all they ever learned. There are other skills that don't show up that are far more important. For example...

You're looking at K/D/A and emphasizing its importance. Can I point out another important stat? Unless op.gg is deceiving me, you've placed 8 trinket wards in your 9 ranked games since the reset. And 0 green wards. And 0 pinks. The 42 minute Pantheon game that you seem to be pretty proud of? You placed not a single ward of any kind throughout the whole game. Does this strike you as abnormal? That you go entire games without ever thinking "I should pick up a ward" or "I should use my trinket ward". It reveals that there is an aspect of the game—vision control—that is almost 100% unknown to you. It is like watching someone who never buys boots, or never tries to last hit, or always unloads everything on the tank. The player has a large handicap weighing them down, you would absolutely expect to see them doing better in general against other players at the same MMR because they have that one thing holding them back.

Red9For LEON2Jan 26, 20151 votes

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For what it is worth, I have never queued for ranked with another player. I always play ranked solo.

A shitty teammate can throw a game. A shitty teammate cannot throw 500 games. Over the course of hundreds of games, the other team's going to get just as many bad players as you did. You don't see the enemy team's feeders all over your match history?

Having a positive K/D/A in Bronze is really not that difficult. There are a lot of people who average a high K/D/A in Bronze but cannot get out because stomping in lane is all they ever learned. There are other skills that don't show up that are far more important. For example...

You're looking at K/D/A and emphasizing its importance. Can I point out another important stat? Unless op.gg is deceiving me, you've placed 8 trinket wards in your 9 ranked games since the reset. And 0 green wards. And 0 pinks. The 42 minute Pantheon game that you seem to be pretty proud of? You placed not a single ward of any kind throughout the whole game. Does this strike you as abnormal? That you go entire games without ever thinking "I should pick up a ward" or "I should use my trinket ward". It reveals that there is an aspect of the game—vision control—that is almost 100% unknown to you. It is like watching someone who never buys boots, or never tries to last hit, or always unloads everything on the tank. The player has a large handicap weighing them down, you would absolutely expect to see them doing better in general against other players at the same MMR because they have that one thing holding them back.

Doesn't matter. You know that pantheon game I played? I was pushed to tower all game. You don't NEED to waste a ward when its not possible to get ganked. When I'm pushing thier tower, then I gank. Also, I guarantee I used my trinket many times.

My warding is so bad because I tend to jungle and as jungle, I save my scanner for a gank or for when I need it. Your point is null.

What matters is kda. Kda is a DIRECT REFLECTION of how skilled I am compared to the other players in the game. And as for your feeder theory, its bull. Go look at my games. EVERY SINGLE LOSS. EVERY. SINGLE LOSS. Had AT LEAST one feeder on my team. You think its impossible to consistently get feeders out of 500 games? Youre wrong and i'm living proof. I just got placed bronze III going 5-5 win loss. Out of those 10 games, 8 of them I had an excellent score. 2 of them I went even and still had one of the best scores on my team. Yet I get demoted. Why? because the rank system is garbage.

The rank system says "It doesn't matter if youre Silver V and destroying 75% of the time. We're gonna match you with bronze becuase you lost games. And since youre 5-5 thats right where you should be."

There is not one single reason I've heard you say that can excuse the fact that there is no individual score implementation into the ranking system. Why? Because you know that if thats true then you have to admit I would be significantly higher than where I am and your philosophy would be ruined.

The numbers don't lie kid.

AJStarhikerJan 26, 20152 votes

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Doesn't matter. You know that pantheon game I played? I was pushed to tower all game. You don't NEED to waste a ward when its not possible to get ganked. When I'm pushing thier tower, then I gank. Also, I guarantee I used my trinket many times.

My warding is so bad because I tend to jungle and as jungle, I save my scanner for a gank or for when I need it. Your point is null.

What matters is kda. Kda is a DIRECT REFLECTION of how skilled I am compared to the other players in the game. And as for your feeder theory, its bull. Go look at my games. EVERY SINGLE LOSS. EVERY. SINGLE LOSS. Had AT LEAST one feeder on my team. You think its impossible to consistently get feeders out of 500 games? Youre wrong and i'm living proof. I just got placed bronze III going 5-5 win loss. Out of those 10 games, 8 of them I had an excellent score. 2 of them I went even and still had one of the best scores on my team. Yet I get demoted. Why? because the rank system is garbage.

The rank system says "It doesn't matter if youre Silver V and destroying 75% of the time. We're gonna match you with bronze becuase you lost games. And since youre 5-5 thats right where you should be."

There is not one single reason I've heard you say that can excuse the fact that there is no individual score implementation into the ranking system. Why? Because you know that if thats true then you have to admit I would be significantly higher than where I am and your philosophy would be ruined.

The numbers don't lie kid.

Pushed to the turret? ward your own tribush or go into the jungle and toss the ward over the wall to watch the river. Jungle? grab an extra ward to place on dragon/baron so you know when it's up or if you can steal from the enemy.

You get 'consistant' feeders? Maybe help out on wards so they can, you know, see that gank coming in and retreat back to safety. And how many of those 'feeders' were a support or tank trying to cover your high-value-carry-butt's escape?

OhBoyItsaMegamanJan 26, 20151 votes

There is not one single reason I've heard you say that can excuse the fact

You can't hear if you don't listen. I think this conversation is done.

RaptameiJan 25, 20151 votes

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I'm seeing a lot of people making basically the same post..."I was Silver, and after my placements I got put in low Bronze, wtf." Here's the deal: you weren't in Silver.

Go to your op.gg profile and look at the details on the games that you played before the reset. Those players in your games are all listed as Bronze 3, Bronze 4, Bronze 5. (That's where they are now, not what they were at the time you played them.) Why? Because you were Bronze 3 or Bronze 4, and you were matched with other people who were just as unskilled. The Silver border that you earned at the end of the season was a trophy for having won the promos out of Bronze I at one point. After that point, you fell down into low Bronze. Your profile still said Silver 5, but that's not where your MMR was.

The people in your games right now are not that different than the people you were playing. Yes, there are some showing up who are better and some showing up who are worse—that is the natural result of doing a reset, even a soft reset. The difference is that your deceptive Silver badge finally got removed and your actual place on the ladder is now showing. If you want it back, earn it back. If you can't get wins, learn. And if you honestly don't believe that hundreds of games of ranked accurately measures your skill, why were you proud of the Silver medal you just lost? (And why are you playing ranked at all?)

So you're saying that the LP and league/division is a big fat lie?

We all knew this, but how is "your rating has nothing to do with your skill level" in any way a good thing?

Wild Card ShacoJan 24, 20154 votes

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Placing me with shitty ass players from wood 5 I'm not no pro but all this bullshit down syndromed level low IQ plays dont happen in bronze no mater how much people compare bronze and silver, people are literally retarded, troll picks chasing people into obvious baits, feeding hardcore a level 10 chasing a level 14 with low hp and dying to a level 14... fuc.k this fu.ck riot I'm out peace, keep your shitty strategy to keep people playing to yourself by moving them into bronze given them false hope that they can move up.

Re-read your post and discover why you're in bronze.

kthxbai

XVI Jake IVXJan 25, 20152 votes

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Placing me with shitty ass players from wood 5 I'm not no pro but all this bullshit down syndromed level low IQ plays dont happen in bronze no mater how much people compare bronze and silver, people are literally retarded, troll picks chasing people into obvious baits, feeding hardcore a level 10 chasing a level 14 with low hp and dying to a level 14... fuc.k this fu.ck riot I'm out peace, keep your shitty strategy to keep people playing to yourself by moving them into bronze given them false hope that they can move up.

Yo. I was bronze 3 last season and you know what. I am probably gonna get silver. I love this ranking. To be honest I am kind of glad they get this reset. I get a restart and secondly if you are carrying just be these broken champions:

Fizz , Annie ( Mid )
Fizz , Lee Sin , Shen (Top)
Fizz , Shen , Taric or leo (support) ... RIOT please don't nerf leo I want to buy her ,but to scared.
Fizz , Warick , Lee sin , amumu jungle ( I main warick jungle if good enough with him should be able to carry out he is not meant for golds though could be wrong)
Caitlyn , Miss Fortune , Corki (Adc)

Notice how I said fizz all the time? I main fizz thats why. I could carry a game with support fizz. Either way if you were silver last year or gold you should be able to get it back. I am just now truely starting to play rank. I am gonna try to play rank all this season. Wish me luck. I might not try rank with leo untill I learn her ,but how hard can leo be? All you have to do poke adc and protect your adc.

O yea teemo can carry to plat. I saw a friend do it. Idk. I am a crappy bronze player ,but haven't played much rank. I kind of wish riot wouldn't nerf fizz.

Riot should lower the prices ... Leo is still 4,800. Caitlyn idk how expensive she is ,but she is a 2010 champion. This is a ftp game. Why can't you lower your darn prices. If I recall they promise never to raise the skins to that price ,but they did. They are greedy. They will eventually will lose players or make more money ,but really riot start managing the prices on your champions its 2015.

Gotta say if I can find 2010 champions that are very expensive. Thats gonna be sad. Even 4,800 is bad. Do you guys do it manually or what or do you have a rioter who makes the ip for champions. You do realize you will eventually start losing new players or maybe even low 20s. I need to make a post about this ,but the prices on this game are horrible. Getting money off of teenagers , and adults. I don't think I will ever buy rp points or stick with league of legend in the long run if you don't nerf the prices. Really someone make a post about this for me.

Thats a reason you should quit league. Don't quit because of rank. Quit because of the high outrageous prices and skins cost. Riot is coming greedy back in 2010 they weren't this greedy.

I don't ever remember them doing skins more than 1,200 rp! Lol.

Rito start managing your prices or you will lose me and im sure im the only only one who feels this way.

Hell WeekJan 26, 20151 votes

lol i lost a game, and now it seems i wont be winning any game anytime soon... i have 7 losses back to back. Riot has being placing me with really, really , REALLY BAD TEAMS. Teams that dont know how to gank, ping, group up, or even focus on objectives, just complete little 5 year old players not even playing. And im here trying my best, but the other teams are just sooooooo MUCH BETTER and the rest of my team are just dieing every 3 seconds... im not kidding.... every ... 3... seconds.. and once i get to help them out or even group up - its too late - theyre super fed. And they just end up eating me up too, but ofc im the very last one to do so. I have very good map awarness, i help out, i try my best, but 1 man is not enough, it takes the whole team to succeed. It seems to me im the only player who buys 3 wards and 1 pink every game, the only player who listens/ pings, the only player who has map awarness to help out others. Simple things. Now i just imagine how broken ranked matches are atm, i dont even want to play anymore.

patmax17Jan 26, 20151 votes

wowo, calm down D:

nerak23Jan 26, 20151 votes

Pushed to the turret? ward your own tribush or go into the jungle and toss the ward over the wall to watch the river. Jungle? grab an extra ward to place on dragon/baron so you know when it's up or if you can steal from the enemy.

You get 'consistant' feeders? Maybe help out on wards so they can, you know, see that gank coming in and retreat back to safety. And how many of those 'feeders' were a support or tank trying to cover your high-value-carry-butt's escape?

Yep That ^^ couldn't have said it better... Thanks for this !