New queue a failure?

Admiral Zee·Jan 18, 2016·3 votes·948 views

I want to start this off saying that I like the idea of the new queue but I think it has failed. Recently I have spent more time in queues than I have in games, and I'm not in a super high elo. I have seen more dodges in the last few days than I have for a long time with the old system. Also people don't seem to understand that you have to lock in, which I think is unnecessary, if you are hovering on a champ it should count. I am sure that will get better as the system stays in place longer but the queue times need to change. Waiting 10-15 minutes to play a 20-30 min game is unreal. I have no idea why this is happening but I can't be the only one experiencing this.

15 Comments

FioraWillCarryJan 18, 20163 votes

Oh God, I'm sick of seeing these threads. I swear, if you guys had your way, we'd be in the stone age. The new champ select is fine. Never experienced long Q times since its release. A great improvement to ranked play by far. Please Riot, fix what you gotta fix but don't get rid of it please.

Admiral ZeeJan 18, 20161 votes

Looking at your match history since the new queue you have played way more ranked games than normals. I have to say the ranked part isn't too bad, people are way less likely to dodge but in normals it is horrible. When I have to sit through 15 mins of queue and 3-4 dodges to get into a game it is not acceptable. I work and take care of my grandfather so I don't have a ton of time to play league. When I get time for 3 or 4 games and can only play 1 because of the new system it is extremely frustrating. It makes me question what Riot was thinking, and I think most of the problem now is because you show your preferred champ before ban phrase. I have seen people target ban a team mate, who is taking a champ that doesn't really get banned, just because the other person doesn't like that champ. That leads to dodges in normals.

FioraWillCarryJan 18, 20161 votes

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Looking at your match history since the new queue you have played way more ranked games than normals. I have to say the ranked part isn't too bad, people are way less likely to dodge but in normals it is horrible. When I have to sit through 15 mins of queue and 3-4 dodges to get into a game it is not acceptable. I work and take care of my grandfather so I don't have a ton of time to play league. When I get time for 3 or 4 games and can only play 1 because of the new system it is extremely frustrating. It makes me question what Riot was thinking, and I think most of the problem now is because you show your preferred champ before ban phrase. I have seen people target ban a team mate, who is taking a champ that doesn't really get banned, just because the other person doesn't like that champ. That leads to dodges in normals.

Oh...well I can't speak to its state in normal games but its a great addition for ranked play. I never ever play this many ranked games because ranked wasn't really that enjoyable before. If anything I hope they at least leave it alone for ranked play. If its having problems for normals then I'll concede to your points as I haven't played that many normals with it since it came out.

ProzzakJan 18, 20162 votes

Keep hearing people saying this, but I have timed my last 5 games and average around 8 minutes to get into a game which is no longer then the old queue.

The lock in thing is actually smart, once people get used to it they will lock in quicker than waiting out the full time like they always did with the old system and it will make the new system shorter.

disregardableJan 18, 20162 votes

8 minutes is my minimum to get into a game, averaging around 12-15, sometimes 20+.

Before, my queues took 2 minutes on average, with a very rare queue taking 4 minutes. I'm not high elo. I'm silver 4.

You can see why I hate this queue. It was shoved out way too early.

Admiral ZeeJan 18, 20161 votes

I am in silver and my mmr isn't too high so my old queue times used to be 2-4 mins maybe 5 mins at most. It has nearly tripled my queue times and like I said there are so many dodges it is unreal. I am not even counting the time I'm in champ select and 3rd or 4th pick dodges. Add that all up and it is some times 30 mins to get into a game. I have never had this problem before and I have been playing for years. The only correlation is the new queue system.

ProzzakJan 18, 20161 votes

2-4 minutes? Do people actually lock in their picks in silver or something? Whenever I did old system I was around 8 minutes. 90 seconds or so to get into a game, around 1.5 minutes for bans (prob more) the flipping full 45 seconds per pick phase for everyone so around 4.5 minutes for picks and then the one minute lull between picks being done and game load start. That would make it 8.5 minutes not counting game load time.

disregardableJan 19, 20161 votes

Yeah, there's a significant difference in time there. Picks/bans is pretty much instant in Silver. The one guy that takes the full 30 seconds to pick was a minority. First pick instantly bans whoever he thinks he's OP, everyone calls and instalocks their role, last pick begs to not be left with support, game loads.

ProzzakJan 19, 20161 votes

Ah weird, the difference a couple of tiers can make for ban phase. Ah well then guess it would make the majority of people have a longer queue then.

ThilarkJan 18, 20161 votes

agree it is a complete failure getting into games take forever dodges non stop played my first blind pick games in a long time because of this failed Q system. really wish riot would bring back the old one. and look another dodge been in Q for this ranked game 15 mins now

ThilarkJan 18, 20161 votes

you people can say all you want that its progress but when progress takes 15-25 mins to get into a game its not progress its a step backwards which is exactly what this is. its a joke

IronwallJacksonJan 18, 20161 votes

These are just growing pains. People will get used to the new system and things will speed up. Riot is still working on the matchmaking, players will learn to always lock in instead of wasting everyone else's time, and the draft-less variant of the new champ select will be a thing eventually.

AerothalJan 18, 20161 votes

I have had one issue with queuing up ONCE. after 90 secs of waiting i canceled, re-queued and it was fine. i think these are just hiccups. my biggest gripe is that i still have ping spikes. some of my friends do too. i hope that will be remedied soon!

IndianHippieJan 18, 20161 votes

Its the same. Stop whining. At worst I have had one dodge and had to queue again. But the wait is not any different. In fact, you reduce a few minutes right off the bat because you declared your champ and have been given a lane. Its perfect.