Riot: Please stop unmuting players in postgame.

Zaub·May 18, 2015·186 votes·4,933 views

Riot, please return to keeping players who were muted during a game, muted after the game.

I get extremely stressed out as a game in which I've had to mute other players ends, because when I mute players it's most often because I've had a bad game, and couldn't handle the verbal abuse thrown at me for that, and always because the muted player is toxic, if not me, then to someone else.

If I mute someone, it's because I have no interest in listening to what they have to say anymore, and I just can't see any reason to force someone to unmute someone else after the game is over.

94 Comments

Gym Leader YakiMay 18, 201511 votes

I share the same point of view, my friend. It would be nice to keep those people muted.

Serge THE GREATMay 18, 201510 votes

Ditto.

Obi WanMay 18, 20159 votes

If you have no interest in listening to them why not simply leave? You can add those players to your block list after.

Serge THE GREATMay 18, 201553 votes

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If you have no interest in listening to them why not simply leave? You can add those players to your block list after.

Maybe he wants to talk to his other teammates while not reading the garbage the bad teammates are spewing?

LorinneMay 18, 201534 votes

Or look at the end game stats? The gold incomes, the graphs... Maybe he wants to honor his teammates? Or report the offending player?

xGvPxMay 19, 20151 votes

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If you have no interest in listening to them why not simply leave? You can add those players to your block list after.

Yeah...I mean do what most people do, just leave the end game lobby. Now that RIOT keeps a record of all your matches online, there's no point in reviewing stuff. Just close the lobby and go to the site if you want to check out why/how you lost.

Double RainbowMay 19, 20155 votes

Leave and don't report someone who's abusing you? No way.

xGvPxMay 19, 20151 votes

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Leave and don't report someone who's abusing you? No way.

Yeah but the OP specifically says he mutes critics when he has a poor game. Not to encourage assholes, but if you have, say, a 0/12 Ashe, you should expect someone to criticize you, no?

The more important thing to me is for the person having a bad game to look at why it happened. There's a huge difference between some asshole who blames you for all his deaths and some asshole who rubs in the fact you are playing horrible in that particular game.

Honestly, I don't see why you should report someone who criticizes you if you go 0/10+...to an extent. If you have a 0/10 game as anything but a support, you need to do some practice games, get back into it.

redbull papiMay 21, 20151 votes

The OP didn't specifically say he mutes "critics," but he did mention muting people who "verbally abuse" him. It is possible to be a critic without resorting to verbal abuse. An 0/12 Ashe needs more criticism than abuse, because that's usually a sign of a misunderstanding in game sense.

Double RainbowMay 21, 20151 votes

True that. I only recall 2 or 3 games in my history when I fed THAT much, and I felt bad enough already. Saying me what I should do to get better in this game, or at least to stop dying is ok - I understand I screwed up, and you have the right to tell me that. But I see the difference between 'Ashe omg stop feeding, play safe' and 'wtf uninstall you f**n noob your mother should die'. Even 0/20 player doesn't deserve that and he has the right to report the abuser. And usually it goes that way, not nice criticism thing. And 0/12? Please, people are called feeders because of 0/3.

xGvPxMay 22, 20151 votes

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The OP didn't specifically say he mutes "critics," but he did mention muting people who "verbally abuse" him. It is possible to be a critic without resorting to verbal abuse. An 0/12 Ashe needs more criticism than abuse, because that's usually a sign of a misunderstanding in game sense.

Right, and that's why I feel like it's important to check out the results page, practice some games, check out YouTube, read up, etc. Seldom are you going to get the tutelage you need over the course of an actual game unless you are duoing or the like with a friend through chat.

Maple CrusaderMay 18, 20159 votes

I agree. Not sure why they changed the mute system.

Malicious FuryMay 18, 20156 votes

"I get extremely stressed out"

Don't let videogamers stress you out man. It's not worth it. It's like letting a 5 yearold who's calling you names stress you out. Ignore the 5 year old. It doesn't matter what he's saying to you.

ArdondMay 19, 20159 votes

Ignore the 5 year old.

That is kind of the point of the post

RootworthMay 18, 20154 votes

Are you're feelings really going to get hurt by some random dude on the internet that you'll forget exists in this world by the next month if not week?

Edit: Look at all these idiots raging over my comment. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

GigglebytesMay 18, 201531 votes

Cyber-bullying is a real problem. It need to be taken seriously.

RootworthMay 18, 20152 votes

Cyber-bullying is a problem if it's happening to your personal Facebook or YouTube or whatever. Not a video game where you're real person isn't linked to the public. No one could possibly know who I am in real life from my LoL account except for Riot who has some of my bank info when I purchased RP (and not from my email either, I use my video game email, not my personal one).

Purple PacketMay 18, 201517 votes

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Cyber-bullying is a problem if it's happening to your personal Facebook or YouTube or whatever. Not a video game where you're real person isn't linked to the public. No one could possibly know who I am in real life from my LoL account except for Riot who has some of my bank info when I purchased RP (and not from my email either, I use my video game email, not my personal one).

I don't know what to tell you if you truly believe cyber-bullying is only problematic if it is happening on Facebook, Youtube, or whatever.

Battlecast SonaMay 18, 201526 votes

Cyber-bullying is just bullying that occurs on the internet. It doesn't matter if people don't know who you are it doesn't make them being hurtful any LESS hurtful. People online confuse their thick skin with a lack of bullying, but just because the bullying doesn't bother YOU doesn't mean it's not still a problem.

SoundChaosDebugMay 19, 20154 votes

Raising a generation of vaginas if this is a real issue, over sensitive soap opera skirt wearing men.

If you think anything related to this game is a problem then you've never faced a real problem in your life.

Grow some balls and stop being such a toddler.

r11naMay 19, 201510 votes

Careful guys, an internet ~~badass~~ manchild in his 20s is here to set you straight on how to be a man.

AnidanMay 19, 20156 votes

As someone who has faced severe depression and bullying in real life (gotta love being hospitalized over the potential of committing suicide), let me tell ya: If you think this is only a small issue and there is no problem with this game's community (or a the minor vocal minority of people who bully on games at all) then you have no idea what a problem actually is.

"It's the not one of the biggest problems ever conceived in the entirety of the universe, so you should just be able to shrug it off!" is essentially the rhetoric I hear, though in hyperbolic form, and it should not be a realistic expectation. Look at other sports and after the game you see handshakes and congratulations, begrudgingly though they may be, but rarely do you hear about outright shit-talking or telling someone to kill themselves. Why? Because people will blow that shit up and complain, and rightly so, even at professional levels.

Anonymity is not some sort of armor that makes the recipient impervious to all damage. There is still a person with a beating heart in front of that computer, not some automaton that can't feel the sting of your insults. Besides, you must know it's a person or else why would you insult them anyway beyond knowing that it will hurt? And if you know it will hurt, why are you then trying to claim it's not a problem while you willfully damage the will of others?

TL;DR: If you yourself weren't the toddler you're claiming others to be then you'd see that bullying is not something that bothers only the weak. You don't see a problem yourself, therefore are claiming "out of sight, it doesn't exist." Therefore you are just as much a child as you claim they are.

Also, saying this is a generation of vaginas is not making you sound very good in the slightest. Why should we believe someone saying that insults aren't a problem while he is in the process of making very broad insults that compare someone to the anatomy of a woman?

rtbf211279518May 19, 20151 votes

Yo, if you're on the internet, and you're saying rude shit to people, it's cyber bullying, regardless of where you are. That's why it's called CYBER bullying.

FirstSergeantBimMay 18, 20156 votes

The only reason bullying has ever been a problem is because the bullied haven't learned how to stand up for themselves. We live in this society today that says you are a victim if you are being bullied, people should be sorry for you and somebody should stop those horrible bullies! That's fucking retarded. You're a real live human being, solve that shit yourself. If you can't fix the problem yourself, then you figure out how. This shit ain't tough, but you need to toughen up.

T RexHasTinyArmsMay 18, 201510 votes

That's easy to say, but the problem is that inequalities exist. Not sure if you're old enough to have kids yet or not, but if you aren't there are social structures I could use to harm you (an adult has more pull than a kid in many areas so you couldn't really stop it), and if you are then think of it in terms of your kid. A kid isn't going to be able to stop a grown adult who beats them (that's why it's illegal), and by your logic the kid is the one to blame for not being able to stop it. Yeah that's an extreme version of the argument, but it's all about the subtle levels of where people have power or don't and how they can use that, or be prevented from using it, so that someone can't really stop something from happening.

FirstSergeantBimMay 18, 20155 votes

Even though inequalities exist, anyone who lives in North America has access to more than enough resources to make things right. The difference is that some people don't know how to use those resources and some do. The ability to access resources to fight any kind of oppression hinges on an individual's ability to think for themselves, but how can you think for yourself if you've never been given an opportunity to fight for yourself?

I don't have kids, but my number one priority in raising them is to instill this value: your life is what you make of it and you control who you are, what you feel and what you think. That means that if somebody wants to bully them they will have to deal with it. If they never learn how to deal with a bully, then how the fuck are they going to succeed in life? When Tommy kicks my boy down at recess (because that's what kids do) I'm not going to hold his hand and tell him, "I'm so sorry son, you're such a poor boy, Tommy's just a bully and he's a bad boy, go tell the teacher and I'll make sure his parents know". No, I'm going to say, "Don't let Tommy bully you. If he does that again punch him in the nuts, if he doesn't back off keep wailing on him, if the principal has a problem with it, tell them to talk to me."

Your example of an adult bullying a kid is great because it is assumed that the adult has a greater level of power and can easily bully the kid. The thing is that it isn't that simple. The kid could actually be smarter than the adult and the kid actually has many more resources to protect themselves than the adult has to bully. As long as the kid can be secure in who they are and possesses the presence of mind to remain patient and think things through, the kid never has anything to fear from an adult. It is this train of thought that I find missing from these discussions.

TL;DR: Sometimes it isn't bad when you have to feel bad things because you can use those bad feelings to push you into becoming a better person. Meaning: bad things can be good and we must embrace them as a society.

T RexHasTinyArmsMay 19, 20156 votes

I get the premise, but if you're educated enough you eventually realize that there are enough factors that it is often times difficult to say one person should stand up and defend them self w/out seriously overlooking other issues that may prevent them from doing so. For instance, your example w/ your kid, if I wanted to pick on someone in elementary, I would have done it in a way where you don't get the option to fight back. If I hit your kid and he hits me back, either A, I know I can win the fight so I'll kick his ass and then tease him for not being able to fight back, or B, there are two other kids there and your kid gets sucker punched and beat on by 3 people if he fights back.

Now you can say at that point you go to the principal, or you intervene as the kid's father, but then we are back to having someone intervene to protect someone else, which you said you don't think needs to be done. I'm not proud of my behavior in the past, but I can say from personal experience that while sometimes being bullied is about standing up for yourself, if the person doing it is smart then the actual solution is for the person being bullied to find a way out, bc they will never be given the opportunity to stand up for themselves.

TLDR; Yes we over coddle people in the United States now days. No that doesn't make statements like "just stand up for yourself and you won't be bullied" actually true, or anything other than trite over generalizations.

Edit: I don't mean offense by the statement educated enough, perhaps in the right field is a better term? At a certain level of formal education you will have similar discussions with in depth analysis of power structures and discussion of the degree to which change can be achieved from within the system vs relying on change from power inputs outside the system, and this is the basic break down of what that argument looks like. Not sure what a better way to word that is, but I'd rather discuss a logical argument than argue ideology bc if you're arguing to protect your value system or defend yourself bc I "called you stupid" or something then nothing I say here matters bc you won't listen even if I was agreeing w/ you (people don't change ideology based on logic). Yeah, just wanted to actually have a conversation and not trying to insult you. I just don't know how to word that better.

FirstSergeantBimMay 19, 20152 votes

You ask me if I'm "educated enough" or "old enough to have kids" like that has any relevancy in this discussion at all. Do you honestly think that you need a certain level of education to grasp these concepts? Or even that being "old enough to have kids" or "educated enough" makes you any better or a person? What is "old enough to have kids" anyway. Or even "enough education". What an outlandish idea: to judge people using a rubric based on such arbitrary markers. The only thing relevant to this discussion is further relevant discussion, the qualities of the individuals involved is not relevant to the discussion. If you actually have participated in any higher education-level discussions, then you should know this by now.

You tell me that I'm over-generalizing and I'm telling you that we're having a general discussion about bullying, but the funny thing is that you're the one completely missing the point of this debate and distracting us from moving forward. What if this? What if that? What if, what if, what if.... There is no point in trying to take this discussion anywhere else. This is a general discussion about bullying and I told you what I think people should do if they are being bullied and I gave you context to back that up. I expect you to use discretion in how you apply my thoughts and the values that I present to other non-related issues.

Furthermore, standing up for yourself when you are bullied in fact prevents you from being bullied. Do you know what the definition of a bully is? Look that shit up. It is literally impossible to bully someone who does not want to be bullied. If someone is hurting you or physically forcing you to do something you don't want to do that is fucking assault and that is nothing even close to bullying.

Implying I'm trying to protect my son if I want to talk to the principal

How have you not made it this far yet? I never said anything of the sort. Maybe I'll give you another shot: If one or more kids want to bully or assault my son on the playground, I want him to stand up for himself, give them hell and make them pay for messing with him. If they aren't stupid it will work and they will find someone else to pick on. If it doesn't, then my son gets an early start in his wrestling career and I'll get to talk to the principal and tell him that I told my son to fight back and he can discipline him at school if he wants to, but I will not be doing the same at home. I need to communicate this to the principal because if he thinks I'm going to encourage a change in behavior, he is mistaken, not because I'm trying to intervene. I don't give a flying fuck what the principal does or doesn't do. Pro-tip: what really matters is what my son does.

EleshakaiMay 19, 20153 votes

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You ask me if I'm "educated enough" or "old enough to have kids" like that has any relevancy in this discussion at all. Do you honestly think that you need a certain level of education to grasp these concepts? Or even that being "old enough to have kids" or "educated enough" makes you any better or a person? What is "old enough to have kids" anyway. Or even "enough education". What an outlandish idea: to judge people using a rubric based on such arbitrary markers. The only thing relevant to this discussion is further relevant discussion, the qualities of the individuals involved is not relevant to the discussion. If you actually have participated in any higher education-level discussions, then you should know this by now.

You tell me that I'm over-generalizing and I'm telling you that we're having a general discussion about bullying, but the funny thing is that you're the one completely missing the point of this debate and distracting us from moving forward. What if this? What if that? What if, what if, what if.... There is no point in trying to take this discussion anywhere else. This is a general discussion about bullying and I told you what I think people should do if they are being bullied and I gave you context to back that up. I expect you to use discretion in how you apply my thoughts and the values that I present to other non-related issues.

Furthermore, standing up for yourself when you are bullied in fact prevents you from being bullied. Do you know what the definition of a bully is? Look that shit up. It is literally impossible to bully someone who does not want to be bullied. If someone is hurting you or physically forcing you to do something you don't want to do that is fucking assault and that is nothing even close to bullying.

How have you not made it this far yet? I never said anything of the sort. Maybe I'll give you another shot: If one or more kids want to bully or assault my son on the playground, I want him to stand up for himself, give them hell and make them pay for messing with him. If they aren't stupid it will work and they will find someone else to pick on. If it doesn't, then my son gets an early start in his wrestling career and I'll get to talk to the principal and tell him that I told my son to fight back and he can discipline him at school if he wants to, but I will not be doing the same at home. I need to communicate this to the principal because if he thinks I'm going to encourage a change in behavior, he is mistaken, not because I'm trying to intervene. I don't give a flying fuck what the principal does or doesn't do. Pro-tip: what really matters is what my son does.

you've never dealt with real bullying. Standing up does nothing but make them push you down again.

It's been almost 15 years now since I got out of school... but when I was in school the bullies were older than me(because they'd failed a grade - something that doesn't seem to happen anymore), bigger than me(because they were older), and travelled in packs(because it was no fun if there wasn't anyone to watch when they pushed you down). Standing up just got you pushed down harder. Real bullying is not something you can stand up to alone, it's something that takes others to stand up to to put a stop to it.

Even if you do happen to be strong enough to stand up to the one guy - his 3 friends who are sitting there laughing at you won't let you.

What stops bullying is people not turning a blind eye to it. Other kids, parents, teachers, etc. Everyone who sees it has to stop ignoring it. That is how you stop bullying. Not by the bullied child standing up, 'cause that just gets him beaten harder when dealing with real bullies.

If he's just dealing with one idiot who wants to make a name for himself, then ya... standing up to him will work. But that's not real bullying.

FirstSergeantBimMay 19, 20151 votes

I don't think you understand what bullying is.

Google's Definition of Bully: use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.

At some point what you think is called bullying becomes verbal or physical abuse, which is in fact not bullying. That is an entirely different matter. I also think there is a good way and a bad way to go about solving your problems. Obviously you don't want to play their game, because you'll probably lose. If you think standing up for yourself always means a fist-fight, then you need to work on your critical thinking skills. At some point though, if you can't enjoy your every day life because of somebody else, then you need to figure out a way to put an end to whatever it is that haunts you (this can mean many different things). Figure it out. That is your responsibility and only you have the power to do so. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

I want to empower you to make a change in your life if your life is not what you want it to be. In every single post I've made in this thread, I've received nothing but downvotes. I'm holding us accountable to our behavior and I'm not letting us make excuses. If you think that's something you don't want to hear, then I don't want to hear from you. GG noobs. Have fun living your life as a bunch of sad sacks because you couldn't figure out how to "win" a "fight" against a "bully". Also, if you're still emotionally scarred from "bullying" you received 15 years ago, then you need a change in your life my friend. That shit is unhealthy.

EleshakaiMay 19, 20151 votes

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I don't think you understand what bullying is.

Google's Definition of Bully: use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.

At some point what you think is called bullying becomes verbal or physical abuse, which is in fact not bullying. That is an entirely different matter. I also think there is a good way and a bad way to go about solving your problems. Obviously you don't want to play their game, because you'll probably lose. If you think standing up for yourself always means a fist-fight, then you need to work on your critical thinking skills. At some point though, if you can't enjoy your every day life because of somebody else, then you need to figure out a way to put an end to whatever it is that haunts you (this can mean many different things). Figure it out. That is your responsibility and only you have the power to do so. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

I want to empower you to make a change in your life if your life is not what you want it to be. In every single post I've made in this thread, I've received nothing but downvotes. I'm holding us accountable to our behavior and I'm not letting us make excuses. If you think that's something you don't want to hear, then I don't want to hear from you. GG noobs. Have fun living your life as a bunch of sad sacks because you couldn't figure out how to "win" a "fight" against a "bully". Also, if you're still emotionally scarred from "bullying" you received 15 years ago, then you need a change in your life my friend. That shit is unhealthy.

Very narrow definition of bullying. Clearly you've never dealt with real bullies. You're holding people accountable for something they have no control over. You're telling them 'screw you, get control' which isn't always possible. You have clearly not been through real bullying and thus you are incapable of understanding what it does to a person... and that's fine. I'm VERY happy for you, because I don't think anyone should go through it.

But your advice is like a rich man telling a homeless person to just 'go get a job'. It comes from a place of ignorance and doesn't contain any useful or realistic information about how that can be achieved, nor does it appreciate the difficulties associated with the task.

FirstSergeantBimMay 19, 20151 votes

Do you honestly think it matters whether or not I've ever dealt with "real" bullies? You imply there are fake bullies, but there is just one kind of bully and they do the same thing: use some kind of leverage to get you to do what they want. Of course I've dealt with "real" bullies before, it's impossible to carry out any normal life without dealing with that because we are humans. Bullying is in our nature, it is in our social structure. You cannot remove it because it is how we establish a social hierarchy and you are wrong to say that people have no control over that. Everyone has control, it is naive to think otherwise.
The difference is that some can recognize this social system of control and some cannot.

A narrow definition of bullying? How about an accurate definition of bullying. The actions people take to try to bully someone are separate from the intent, you can't throw all of that together and call it bullying because submission is requisite to the definition of bullying. If you do not submit to the intimidation you cannot be bullied. It's as simple as that.

You cannot tell me that "go get a job" doesn't contain useful or realistic information. It is the most relevant thing you can tell someone who doesn't have a job, but needs and wants a job. It is only when they ask how to get a job and are denied an explanation that my input becomes unhelpful and unrealistic, but until that discussion takes place the statement "go get a job" remains sufficiently relevant. Furthermore, most homeless people are homeless because they want to be and they are taken care of as homeless people. There are very few people (when I mean very few, I mean an exceptionally low number of people in NA) that are physically or mentally unable to provide for themselves. Most "homeless" people are homeless because it's just different lifestyle and there are many resources available to them in communities to sustain that lifestyle. You really shouldn't feel sorry for them because they are actively choosing to live that way.

EleshakaiMay 21, 20151 votes

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Do you honestly think it matters whether or not I've ever dealt with "real" bullies? You imply there are fake bullies, but there is just one kind of bully and they do the same thing: use some kind of leverage to get you to do what they want. Of course I've dealt with "real" bullies before, it's impossible to carry out any normal life without dealing with that because we are humans. Bullying is in our nature, it is in our social structure. You cannot remove it because it is how we establish a social hierarchy and you are wrong to say that people have no control over that. Everyone has control, it is naive to think otherwise.
The difference is that some can recognize this social system of control and some cannot.

A narrow definition of bullying? How about an accurate definition of bullying. The actions people take to try to bully someone are separate from the intent, you can't throw all of that together and call it bullying because submission is requisite to the definition of bullying. If you do not submit to the intimidation you cannot be bullied. It's as simple as that.

You cannot tell me that "go get a job" doesn't contain useful or realistic information. It is the most relevant thing you can tell someone who doesn't have a job, but needs and wants a job. It is only when they ask how to get a job and are denied an explanation that my input becomes unhelpful and unrealistic, but until that discussion takes place the statement "go get a job" remains sufficiently relevant. Furthermore, most homeless people are homeless because they want to be and they are taken care of as homeless people. There are very few people (when I mean very few, I mean an exceptionally low number of people in NA) that are physically or mentally unable to provide for themselves. Most "homeless" people are homeless because it's just different lifestyle and there are many resources available to them in communities to sustain that lifestyle. You really shouldn't feel sorry for them because they are actively choosing to live that way.

........ wow.

r11naMay 19, 20154 votes

You ask me if I'm "educated enough" or "old enough to have kids" like that has any relevancy in this discussion at all. Do you honestly think that you need a certain level of education to grasp these concepts?

Well you seem to be struggling to understand the concepts so I'd probably guess that a level of education beyond yours is necessary.

Jinx

SelflessTeammateMay 19, 20153 votes

This is not always possible irl, and it's never possible on the Internet, because how do you stand up to something that isn't there? You can't, it's impossible. As well as a dumb idea to begin with on the Internet, which doesn't work the same way as real life, for better in some ways and worse in others.

Not to mention counter-trolling is just as bad, so I dunno what your idea of "standing up for yourself" is on the Internet, a place in which it's physically impossible to do so.

FirstSergeantBimMay 19, 20151 votes

Your post is the dumbest thing I've read today. Congratulations. Here is a link to help you become less stupid.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=definition+stand+up+for+yourself

UP200May 19, 20154 votes

Here's a link to help you understand your narcissistic personality disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Treatment

Please get help.

FirstSergeantBimMay 19, 20151 votes

Hahaha, that's rich. I have NPD because I'm a responsible and self-aware individual. If that was the case, then I wish more people had NPD...

SelflessTeammateMay 20, 20152 votes

"Self-aware...Responsible"

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

FirstSergeantBimMay 21, 20151 votes

Then why am I the only one who is advocating being responsible for my own issues? Maybe I don't fully grasp the concept of responsibility, but I do know it doesn't mean expecting others to solve your problems for you.

"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime."

I don't want to keep solving people's problems. It's such a big waste of time.

SelflessTeammateMay 22, 20152 votes

Because you're the only one who understands your own logic, I guess. Having 30+ downvotes on your tirade is proof of that. I have no idea what your idea of "standing up for yourself" is, you never explained it, but I don't think you realize what that means online versus in real life. They're two completely different things that can not and should not be treated the same way. That's just not debatable.

AMYS GRAVEMay 19, 20152 votes

the bullied haven't learned how to stand up for themselves.

victim blaming much?

FirstSergeantBimMay 19, 20151 votes

Much. If you're going to let someone bully you, then you don't deserve help from anyone.

AMYS GRAVEMay 19, 20153 votes

If you are being serious in this thread then see a therapist because you do need help. Everyone deserves help. Even you.

aaIamMay 19, 20154 votes

trash talk is apart of the gaming community people like you get butthurt and want it to stop. now nobody can trash talk bc of butthurt ppl complaining "cyber bullying". if this was 10 years in the past I would say gtfo but times have changed due to some sensitive people

TH ExarthiousMay 19, 20153 votes

There is trash talking, and friendly bantering and then there is downright poor sportsmanship. Poor conduct is uncalled for and the only reason people do it on the internet is because they are cowards. That's why they play games like this over sports because in a face to face game they'd eat their teeth. Online bullying is a real issue, especially when it is a boy, or a man attacking a female whether they know it or not. Here in the near future I expect to see it becoming a crime, punishable in the court system as it should.

KikirinoMay 18, 201517 votes

There is a difference between hurt feeling and just not wanting to read bullshit. Hell, I mute more people for being annoying than being toxic. There really is no reason to have to mute someone twice.