if you play hard champions as a low elo player you hurt your team

Dwith·Jan 12, 2016·3 votes·1,784 views

wanna know how i know? because im a diamond player that smurfs and plays normals and i can tell you this much 1 in 100 of you can actually be useful on blitzcrank. play something like soraka or sona so that you are actually useful besides missing every skill shot every time its up. I dont care if you make 4 hooks later in the game you wouldnt want a qb in football that hits 4 in 30 throws.

so now as a diamond player im 1-4 vs r%%%%% gold players because it matters how good your jungler/support is when you play adc. This is why i main jungle and never lose lmao because having to rely on north american ignorant players who miss everything is just unbearable

33 Comments

3ofGot40veJan 12, 20163 votes

Not always true.

I am bronze 1. I play lee. In team builders mostly, I don't play ranked a lot. I get good ganks off early and get my lanes ahead and if late game comes around I can effectively kick an enemy into my team. Don't believe me? Watch my replays.

I don't appreciate the stereotypical thought that low elo plays cant handle people with higher mechanics. Although we may not be as good as you, some of us still can effectively play hard champions and help our team.

DwithJan 12, 20162 votes

Always true bud. you cant play lee sin wanna know how I know? because you are bronze. If you could actually play lee sin you wouldnt be bronze in the first place. I could go onto a bronze id right now and not lose a single game up to like diamond playing lee sin only.

OH MAN NOT GOODJan 12, 20162 votes

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DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

really? You really think as a lee sin silver player yourself you can land the q's consistently to do anything?

3ofGot40veJan 17, 20161 votes

Considering i have near a 60% win rate with him i see you are just pretentious and believe in stereo types.

james121234Jan 12, 20162 votes

100% agreed americans cant take critisism they all think they can hit every spell ect but if you went over their replays they would all show to miss and do the wrong play more often then if they played something that is more forgiving. If you dont agree with that you are just ignorant lmao

disregardableJan 12, 20162 votes

It doesn't matter what support they play. The most common mistakes that screw over your lane are decision making mistakes, not mechanical mistakes.

"Let me walk away with no regards to my ADC at all" "I should sit in this bush instead of anywhere near the CS wave" "I don't need a sightstone" "Instead of trying to peel for my ADC, I should try to 1 shot their ADC"

etc etc

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

totally mr silver it doesnt matter why have a soraka that just has to sit back and heal me instead of a blitz where he has to land his spell or he cant do anything. Doesnt matter what you play everyone has the same mechanics right??

disregardableJan 12, 20161 votes

And then the Soraka sits in the bush against Vayne/Thresh and instantly dies.

You can't just assume that the low elo Soraka/Janna/Sona knows how to play. She really doesn't.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

ok if dumbass is gonna die while sitting in the bush he is going to do that with everyone? I just had a gold 1 blitz go for one hook in 10 min then just walk up get poked then blasted into the wall and killed. Stupids gonna do what stupids gonna do but if you give stupid a shield maybe he wont hurt himself as bad and maybe just maybe be of some use?

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

Your the worst kind of person to support for. You just want the support to sit back and heal, god forbid they try to do anything else. You don't even want a support, you just want a heal bot. I bet your the type of person who'll afk if the support accidentally gets the kill. I bet your the type of person who'll say, "GG FF@20, we gave up first blood. can't carry these noobs."

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

thats where your ignorance comes in thinking you actually need to make plays or actually do anything besides healing and doing your job when you are low elo. Because you dont. I use to think how you did till I learned from an ex lcs coach. I never think the games over unless it actually is something ridiculous. Should look up this account to see 70% win rates on my main champions on my smurf account.

You telling someone to try to make plays and play champions that are too difficult is like you playing pokemon and using lvl 99 mewtwo when you have two gym badges so he smacks himself 3/4 the time instead of you using your lvl 8 squirtle that will be consistent and attack every time. Soraka was only an example play annie, play janna play leo, I dont care thoses are all 100% more useful than if you played thresh blitz ect

quote from hotshotGG "If your allies are feeding the correct response is almost never to say "I GOTTA CARRY THIS GAME BY DOING THIS SICK PLAY/ROAM MANG"

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

Vayne Just sit back and just heal me, that's all your job is. I'll do the rest. Nami Ok then....

a few moments later

Vayne Nami why aren't you warding Nami Naw bro, my only job is to heal you, remember.

A few FEW moments later

An allie has been slain

Vayne Nami, WTF. why didn't you bubble them when they went in on me? Nami Naw bro, i can only heal you, remember. Throwing out a bubble would be to hard for a support like me. Tell me how those 2v1 go for you. I'm going mid.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

This is you being ignorant again. Nami is not just a heal champion I never said she was. I never said to only play heal champions. You are what makes america look bad and stupid the ignorance. Nami has skillshots nami requires you to actually hit them and use spells at the right time more than others therefore nami is harder to play. Yes i said healing but I also said doing your job. Leo doesnt heal. Annie doesnt heal. If you actually think its easier to play someone like blitz and try to hit a q and playing annie and hitting a stun or any other easier champion doing what their champ does then its pointless talking to someone without logic.

I dont get why logic doesn't work in your brain but you should get it checked out. Too many of you kids just tunnel on one word without hearing the rest out.

You are like the person that would say AH HA! lock him away at someone who says they shot someone without reading the context part like "for self defense" where it totally changes the aspect of the first half of the sentence.

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

You sure use the word "ignorant" a lot. The point still remains, you don't want anyone playing someone that requires the tiniest bit of skill. The point-n-click stun, the healbot or the walking meat-shield is what you want. These work, yes, but sometimes, other picks might be slightly better. Even though they take a little bit more effort.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

It's not about effort its about being able to do what you are asked to do. What has more success lvl 20 charizard with 1 badge that hits himself every turn? or level 10 squirtle that can actually attack? when you are low elo trying to play a hard champ its like having a pokemon that wont listen to you because you dont have enough badges.

It doesnt matter if lets say thresh is a better pick in this comp than soraka If you cant play thresh in the first place he isnt good.

or this if you go to a poker table do you bet on 9/10 odds? or do you go with the 2/10 odds just because in the moment it looks better?. When you get better the odds go down .

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

again with the Pokemon references. I would actually take the level 20 Charizard. Because (at least in gen 1) he will eventually attack, and when he does, he'll one shot that little Squirtle. and besides level 10 Squirtle only knows like bubble or something. that pretty useless.

Comparing people in league to Pokemon like that is a pretty bad way of expressing it. I would like to think of it as 7-10 games = 1 badge. After 50 games with a champ, you should be able to control that beast of a level 55 Thresh.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

no he wouldnt you would die by the time you could actually do enough -_-

This analogy is actually by an ex lcs coach and most people understand soooo yeah.

You fail to understand it doesn't matter how much you play a champ. There are zed mains with 3k games and are silver does that make them good with zed? clearly not otherwise wait for it wait for it..they wouldnt be silver! Sure they are probably better than most silver zeds but that actually dones't matter. If I gave that zed player soraka or annie they would go up a tier or two. Why is that? because the thinks he knows how to play zed right and accepts he doesnt do anything wrong so nothing improves even though he knows nothing and cant play zed but if he plays an easier champion it lets him think more about the game instead of the champion because he is worried about less. And if you cant understand that you have a mental disease or are too young to grasp and kind of logic that goes against your terrible way of thinking about it

There are no amounts of anything that equal badges in this game only your skill level. If you can win with annie all the time but lose with someone a little harder like lulu you obviously dont have enough badges for lulu to not hit herself. If you can and you win congrats you earned the badge try playing harder stuff now if it doesnt workout keep going back to the fundamentals till you get enough skill experience to get another badge.

you dont like what im saying because its foreign and different so you dont take it in right away you try to block it. But the 99% of people you listen to are silver/ gold. Most of league players are. Then there are the top 1% like me.

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

There is a difference between Champion Skill and General game knowledge. You can have great mechanics on a champ, but if you don't know how to push your advantages, of course you won't climb. Giving them an easier to play champion isn't going to magically give them general game knowledge.

And i would love to see proof of this 3K games played Zed in silver.

Also, dream. That Charizard could easily beat that Squirtle, if you believe.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

thats actually false if you have better mechanics it doesnt matter how stupid you are because the rules dont apply since you are breaking them. You have the ability to get yourself out of bad plays and situations and turn them good just by having raw mechanical skill. Doublelift was known for having no map awareness and not knowing how to play but with super mechanical talent.

oh and if you actually want to find players with over 2k games played on a champion and still low elo just go to op.gg na and go to champions then click on one and look for people with alot of games played 100% you will find players in extremely low elo.

and yeah in my dreams im a billionaire too doesnt mean i go around acting like i am and wasting all my money.

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

To further my point. So unless you are Doublelift. Who is considered, by some, to be the best ADC in the LCS. You need General Game knowledge to be able to climb.

100% Ay? Well, i found a guy who has a 2K and is in Diamond. Also a couple plat+, sure there are a couple in silver. but after 1000 games on one champ, especially Zed, you'll climb.

I thought we we're talking about Pokemon? Where did a billion bucks come from.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

I cant be asked to argue with pure ignorance so watch these coaching verbal lessons from an lcs coach and learn a thing or two. You dont have to be doublelift child It was an EXAMPLE you know those things people try to give you to help the tiny brain comprehend? you dont have to be doublelift you just have to have better mechanics. You can get to diamond 5 with mechanics alone.

"sure there are a couple in silver" okay that was the fucking point does that make them good that they are stuck with one champion? fuck no.

https://www.youtube.com/user/lastshadow9 lcs coach im done trying to explain things to retards too hard man tooo hardddd.

SwerzzJan 12, 20162 votes

Not gonna lie. I've been sick in bed all-day. Just kind of bantering(trolling) on this post has kept me entertained for the past hour. I do agree with more then half of what you said, but at the same time, your kind of saying it in a dick-ish way.

It's been fun. See-ya.

Live2LetDieJan 12, 20162 votes

You are diamond, aka still low Elo, talking trash haha. If you are not master 50+ points you are low Elo now and days

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

platinum 4 trying to tell someone whats what LOL you are the typical person i complain about the ignorant terrible players that will always stay low plat and below and would you look at that see your lolking chart over the months looks like you either abused a champion or got elo boosted in one month a tiny bit higher then you flatlined then super dropped and stopped playing nice. But go on you know so much (:

Live2LetDieJan 12, 20161 votes

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platinum 4 trying to tell someone whats what LOL you are the typical person i complain about the ignorant terrible players that will always stay low plat and below and would you look at that see your lolking chart over the months looks like you either abused a champion or got elo boosted in one month a tiny bit higher then you flatlined then super dropped and stopped playing nice. But go on you know so much (:

You have over 24 days alone on your smurf haha hahahahahahha let's see your main? Diamond is shit now and everyone knows it. I hit p3 and stopped and it couldn't be becuase of life hahah Na it's obv something else. Don't be mad that you are low Elo.

Low Elo is anyone under master. That simple

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

Too bad you fail to realize a NA plat 4 with 0 credentials have 0 impact on how I think or feel because its like talking to a monkey. And would you look at that your win rates are all on the easy champions as well nice! but what would I know having 70% win rates on every account I have up to diamond when i stop ;)

Its like a blind man trying to explain how new york city looks folks

Live2LetDieJan 12, 20161 votes

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Too bad you fail to realize a NA plat 4 with 0 credentials have 0 impact on how I think or feel because its like talking to a monkey. And would you look at that your win rates are all on the easy champions as well nice! but what would I know having 70% win rates on every account I have up to diamond when i stop ;)

Its like a blind man trying to explain how new york city looks folks

You have that many hours in this game and are still diamond hahaha Sour that diamond doesn't mean anything anymore? Trying to look at my stats that are almost two months old now haha You have almost triple my hours and are diamond only... get better please.

DwithJan 12, 20161 votes

i have 50 more games than you on my main and 100 less than you on my smurf that i dont take as seriously yet still have the same mmr as your main... hello?

You could play 3x as me and never hit diamond Id even be willing to make a money bet on it.

Live2LetDieJan 12, 20161 votes

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i have 50 more games than you on my main and 100 less than you on my smurf that i dont take as seriously yet still have the same mmr as your main... hello?

You could play 3x as me and never hit diamond Id even be willing to make a money bet on it.

Wait you said multiple smurfs? now you dont even know what you are lieing about haha. Keep your story straight haha.

its simple chalenjor>master> low elo. Everyone knows this haha. Why are you so mad you are low elo?

Edit: Also you cant even read the stats correctly. I am talking about hours on this game. The game stat is for this ranked alone. Lets see how many hours your main have with your other 30 smurfs haha

WeatheredJan 13, 20161 votes

False. If you suck at a high skill champ in low elo you hurt your team. If you do well with a high skill champ, you help your team. Don't generalize. Some of us can get out of elo if we want because we have the mechanics, but choose normals and don't care about rank.

HabitzJan 13, 20161 votes

What a wonderful life you must live that playing in Diamond isn't enough so you intentionally choose to play with people not of that skill so you can ridicule them.