giving someone support after 4 dodges of getting their role is asking the player to tilt

B2OXX·Apr 6, 2017·55 votes·1,689 views

Like 99% of the time its a lost game cuz na cant dodge

23 Comments

Bible KnightApr 6, 20174 votes

Idk why they dont just try to make support more appealing of a role in more creative ways.

B2OXXApr 6, 20177 votes

Idk why they dont just have the old way back so that not only are que times and matches not as swayed it makes pretty much everyone happy. I remember sometimes you would get the last pick stuck as support troll that but it was pretty damn rare compared to autofill. Most of the time the players would be willing to swap or the player would just accept it.

Autofill just brings out this demon because your essentially getting what you didnt sign up for which also most of the time happens to be a low impact role and after dodges of getting your role you feel cheated. Sure support trolls can be annoying and its not really the right thing to do but I understand it for sure.

TuffnarApr 6, 20173 votes

This new system is way better, auto fill is the problem, pick 2 roles to play, you are probably going to get your main one, and if you can't play more than 1 role than you shouldn't be playing ranked. And with the system you think is better you need to learn how to play ALL roles. I don't really understand how that's better.

CannabisOverlordApr 6, 20173 votes

They just need to make alot more support champs( diverse and fun), when ppl are playing mages as supp instead of the support champs, that should tell you, noone wants to play the support champs

Morgan le FeyApr 7, 20171 votes

I do!

But I'm a support main. >.>

Supreme Senpai69Apr 6, 20177 votes

People say they dislike redemption but I think it's made the support role more fun. Actives make the role more fun, as long as you don't have too many (my last Morgana game I literally had 5. That was too many. But I felt useful!) It adds another depth to it. Because sometimes, since you're the only role that doesn't CS, it can be boring as if your ADC wants to be safe and not start fights you have to figuratively AFK and watch someone else play the game. Poke supports don't have this issue but enchanters do, like Soraka or Janna.

The new champion looks neat and seems like it'd help solve this

NymzoApr 6, 20174 votes

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People say they dislike redemption but I think it's made the support role more fun.

Sorry but no, item 3107 did not make the support role more fun. In fact, it, along with item 3190 , made the support even less fun for support mains.

I've been playing since the end of season 3 and this has to be the most toxic season for supports.

I've been use to get item 2049 with a boot and a support item every game but that was necessary in order for me to be useful and I could get whatever items I wanted after that.

But now? Getting item 3107 and item 3190 is not not necessary, it's an obligation. It doesn't matter which type of support you are, you have to rush it on everyone.

And that's basically what support has become, a race to who is getting the broken items first (except if you are playing an ap mage ''support but even then...). Don't want to buy them? Sure, but the enemy support will probably buy them anyway and you'll be outperformed by him/her.

Sure is fun.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 6, 20171 votes

I dunno man I have a 60% win rate on ashe support and I never build item 3190 . I'm a really good Morgana and Janna and I've never built it on them. It's not a must buy even remotely. Redemption is a must buy but so what? That's like complaining infinity edge is a must buy for ADCs. I'm absolutely ECSTATIC that champions without heals can not heal. It adds so much more potential variety. I can even heal my mid laner from the bot lane! Actives are awesome imo. That being said I always build it as my last item unless I'm Janna or Soraka. Maybe in like... platinum elo what you say is true. But in anything lower you can build whatever the hell you want and still do fine.

Not like you can't have a different opinion though. Sorry if that's the way you feel. Personally though, I love it.

NymzoApr 6, 20171 votes

Unfortunately, at where I am which is low diamond, everyone is doing that.

Eeven in challenger for what I've seen.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 6, 20171 votes

Yea then in your elo? Totally. I can totally see your point. It just doesn't apply for me is all lol

Maximum MordeApr 6, 20175 votes

I hate actives. I always forget to use them.

3TWarriorApr 6, 20171 votes

they have...and unfortunately every time they do, something about it becomes too powerful in another lane

KieferrApr 7, 20172 votes

Honestly they should bring the old system back. Faster q times.

The Cane MasterApr 7, 20172 votes

Autofill is the worst thing ever implemented. I would rather wait 15 min. before getting a match than get autofilled. At least we should be able to toggle autofill on/off, that way everyone gets what they want.

ZT XperimentorApr 6, 20171 votes

Example 789654125 of people not wanting to play support. I miss teambuilder, at least it was amusing to queue up.

A Bad NasusApr 6, 20171 votes

You can just exit the queue wait 2 minutes and requeue?

FegoneApr 6, 20171 votes

Here's a tip: When you get a game to accept, and get put back into queue because someone else didn't accept, immediately leave the queue and restart it. One of the things matchmaking does is, it looks at your queue time and the longer you've been queued, the more likely you get

your secondary choice
Autofilled

because at some point, getting you into ANY game has higher priority to the client than giving you your preferred role. If someone dodges and you're put back into queue, your timer continues where it left off, it doesn't reset. That means you're automatically more prone to getting secondary or autofilled, the longer you stay in queue.

However, if you leave queue, and restart it, the timer restarts. That means your chances of getting primary role are a lot higher for each game. Try it.

Timethief49Apr 6, 20171 votes

had it won the game was fine with it, its really unlucky though i aggree.

idontgiveabotherApr 6, 20171 votes

This exact thing happened to me yesterday. I just got lucky and had a good team, I don't think I had that big of an impact on the game.

LuIuApr 6, 20171 votes

After someone dodges I sometimes get mid(secondary role) even though my primary role is support. Really makes no sense to force people to play support while making supportmains play a different role.

Cookimonster316Apr 6, 20171 votes

But what if the person who got support had support as their primary and mid as their secondary. Wouldn't it be equally as unfair to put them mid?

LuIuApr 6, 20171 votes

There's a support-shortage in this game, so they should never put two support-primary's in the same match.

llIllIllIllIllApr 7, 20171 votes

What's even more tilting that you don't see is how long each of those dodges actually take. One time before flex me and my buddy queued a game while in skype with another friend who also queued at the same time - we got into a game and won at 20, our friend meandwhile had 4/5 dodges in a row and still wasn't in a game when we got out

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