The *Community* Needs to Read This

Skybear61··2 votes·881 views

I will try my best to make this as short as possible, but it is a complex scenario so it will not be easy. I love this game. I love how it feels to play ranked, to make friends on this game, and to secure that penta with the odds against you, pushing to the nexus for the mind blowing win. Before this game, I played a game where it was encouraged to trash talk as much as you could. It was how everyone played, nobody minded. Don't get me wrong, it is, today, a strong belief of mine that the league community is overly toxic and needs a strong focus in this area, but the story I will tell you is not a representation of this.

My account has been banned a few times, it has been chat restricted. I told myself, "maybe I should chill out." - I didn't. I didn't enjoy being this rude on a game and it was more simple to stop being a prick then I was giving credit for, so a few months ago I decided to take a month of the game to just calm down and come back with a new attitude about it. When I came back my account was banned for another 14 days and I chuckled as hit "I understand." I knew I had deserved it, it was fine with me.

I began to play on my smurf while I waited. A few days ago I decided to check the date that I would be able to play on my main account again, and instead.. a message informing me that I had been instead permanently banned popped up. You know what community? I would understand feeling the need to just get rid of me, I mean I hadn't had a chance yet to prove I was going to play nice, but should I really deserve the chance? That isn't what this is about: I decide to email riot, informing them of my situation.

Here is what I asked for in my email: I want just a person to read what I am saying, to actually read it and take it seriously. All I want is for anything BUT an automated response. I spent hundreds of dollars on this account buying skins and gifts for friends and spent hours grinding the IP I needed and the LP I deserved. All I wanted from them was a few minutes for a real person to read what I had said. This is the key point guys. I got an automated response from a support individual from riot. It pretended to be real but it was clearly a perfect copy paste, so many people had clearly read it before.

This is where it gets interesting. I was told AND I quote (I AM WILLING TO PUT THIS ON HERE JUST REQUEST) that I was being permanently banned for the things that I said in a specific chat long. That chat long was sent to me. Guys I said, "fucking", "shit," "god damnit," and "this is r%%%%%ed." I didn't even direct that to the others on my team. It was referring to a crappy lane we were in. YES I was unpleasant but my goodness I'm being banned for cursing? There is a chat filter. There is the mute option if I'm being offensive. Riot's response was that I was encouraged to make a new account but I wouldn't be having my ban lifted.

Are you serious? You claim that your reason is to Better the community but you want me to stay on the game? Just not with my original stuff? Maybe I do deserve to be banned, maybe you guys won't agree with me. To me though, this is incredibly screwed up: I just want someone to actually listen to this crap, they didn't so maybe some of you will? I'd enjoy feedback, thanks. -Sky

19 Comments

AJStarhiker2 votes

I read the logs and, while you did refrain from cursing at Cait, you were also on her case pretty hard over not playing to your style. You wanted to play aggressive, all-in with someone who (i'm guessing) prefered poke. You had several lines in there complaining she didn't follow you into a fight. While I don't know what was going on right there, but if

The third line (just dodge) I'm guessing you meant the Blitz grab? TBH, I initially thought you meant dodging the game.

You look like you gave up around the 12:30 mark.

Granted, I don't know what was happening in the game, but harassment and verbal abuse isn't limited to cursing at someone. Constant picking at them over bad plays is just as bad, and that's what I saw in those chat logs.

Skybear611 votes

I repeat, I said I was toxic. But this is a permanent ban we are talking about

AJStarhiker1 votes

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I repeat, I said I was toxic. But this is a permanent ban we are talking about

If I look at a chat log, I don't necessarily look at what I think the level of punishment should be. That's not my call. What I look at is "If I was in that game with this person, would I report it?" I don't know what your chat history is, what punishment level you are at, or what happened in game.

I do know that a permaban is not given out for minor offenses. I've never seen a first time chat punishment go directly to a perma, although I've heard that extreme toxiicty could theoretically get that. My guess as to what happened? A manuat audit on your account during the 2-week resulted in pushing it to a perma.

Like SmokedAlmonds pointed out, this was probably a result of a lot of minor offenses that had finally built up to the point Riot decided you'd burned through the second, third, and more chances you'd already had.

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

The chat log is only an example, and specifically it is just the game which was the final straw that lead to your punishment. The fact that it was a perma ban rather than a lesser punishment is due to frequency not severity, but that is never shown in logs because you only get 1 no matter what.

You mentioned being punished several times in the past so why should anyone think this time would be different?

You should also note that stuff like "retarded" is probably considered hate speech.

alasarcher1 votes

Can u copy/paste entire chat log here?

Skybear611 votes

Yes - Like I said, I was extremely unpleasant. I was being toxic and a very horrible team member, but it was stated that this is what I was banned for. I'm aware that I was really bad, but I have had way worse then this happen to me every single day in league. I'm not sure what I was ranting about at 13:19 - 13:50.. I was just being pissy. I know 13:50 was "ganks and..." which got cut off by being attacked (I'm assuming that's why.) At 14:50 -16:18 that is me reacting to Cait's decision to troll and try to let the enemy team kill me.

[0:09] Skybear61 (Thresh): Vayne has bad runes, lets go aggro against her Cait [0:21] Skybear61 (Thresh): Lovely [1:53] Skybear61 (Thresh): Just dodge?.. [2:08] Skybear61 (Thresh): ez against blitz [7:18] Skybear61 (Thresh): cait [7:21] Skybear61 (Thresh): im going to burn vaynes flash now [7:24] Skybear61 (Thresh): maybe we can kill her [7:31] Skybear61 (Thresh): ready? [8:29] [All] Skybear61 (Thresh): Wow.. such a retarded champ [8:49] Skybear61 (Thresh): cait im not gonna lie man, this isn't to be rude [8:52] Skybear61 (Thresh): that was terrible [9:00] Skybear61 (Thresh): The fight [9:12] Skybear61 (Thresh): you gotta multitask, position changes when i go in like that [9:16] Skybear61 (Thresh): you're open to blitz [9:52] Skybear61 (Thresh): jesus fuck [9:59] Skybear61 (Thresh): I was dead before I could react to the cc lol [10:09] Skybear61 (Thresh): we already fucked up just from one even fight [10:34] Skybear61 (Thresh): play really passive, can't fight her anymore [11:15] Skybear61 (Thresh): bs [11:59] Skybear61 (Thresh): what the shit!? [12:02] Skybear61 (Thresh): You just left me cait [12:08] Skybear61 (Thresh): we had the advantage in that fight, I got the hook down [12:33] Skybear61 (Thresh): nah fuck this im done, lets chill out tower [12:39] Skybear61 (Thresh): we had that [13:19] Skybear61 (Thresh): How do people not understand this simple concept [13:32] Skybear61 (Thresh): If you choose to not fight 100% of the time, and are reluctant to fight when you do fight, you have a 100% chance of loss. [13:50] Skybear61 (Thresh): you're just waiting for them to stack the odds on you with ganksand [13:55] Skybear61 (Thresh): however else [14:27] Skybear61 (Thresh): wow... [14:27] Skybear61 (Thresh): wow... [14:50] Skybear61 (Thresh): you're on your own cait if you refuse to play the damn game [15:57] Skybear61 (Thresh): God damnit how many times do i have to say it - stop waiting to fight!!!! [16:18] Skybear61 (Thresh): Do you have any clue how fucking easy that would of been if you had just not hesitated for 15 seconds!? [16:48] Skybear61 (Thresh): then mute [16:56] Skybear61 (Thresh): M-u-t-e [17:31] Skybear61 (Thresh): holy shit my team is fighting [17:37] Skybear61 (Thresh): Woah [20:44] Skybear61 (Thresh): At least my point has been proven [20:47] Skybear61 (Thresh): we are more then capable of fighting them [23:19] Skybear61 (Thresh): gg [23:20] [All] Skybear61 (Thresh): gg

Mimy3 votes

Seems like normal league chat...aha.

Doesn't seem like anything to be banned for. Everyone says this sort of stuff every game.

Sometimes we as ad's. Need someone to be like "get out there and fight" (bootyslap) "yeah!!! Lets win this thing!!!!"

Skybear612 votes

Yeah, I just want to be put on a phone with someone from Riot tbh.

Brascus1 votes

Dude that wall o' china ain't gonna paragraph itself

Skybear611 votes

I apologize for being more concerned about the content then the format, this is my first time posting to the boards.

Brascus1 votes

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I apologize for being more concerned about the content then the format, this is my first time posting to the boards.

My eyes can't focus, I'm trying to read it and I literally can't

Skybear612 votes

I hope that is better

Brascus1 votes

I've seen and reported people saying much, much worse and haven't received a notice to them getting banned. This is just Lyte's bizarre boner bullshit for automated systems, consistently fucking with the wrong people. All I can see in that chat log is "damn you need to play more aggressively, we could win more if you did", no direct derogatory comments going on.

Things were going so well with the tribunal, whatever happened to that.

alasarcher1 votes

If thats not edited, only offensive thing you said is "jesus fuck", which isnt reason for perma ban anyway. But u sure talk alot :D

61939590DEL11 votes

I usually "Curse" on myself ex.Lux stupid f##kin laser.

Neeko B0t1 votes

i hate Lux for two reasons the first everyone can play her better then me and the second...... her dam care free voice jusr gets on my nerve for some reason and im not a mean person

PIMPSMOOTH1 votes

Toxic support playing Thresh calling another champ "disgusting" is hilarious.

Skybear611 votes

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