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For All Those Perma Banned People That Feel Bad and Want a Second Chance.

Solafrizzle··4 votes·5,953 views

Backstory: I was recently Perma Banned a day or two after i bought some RP.. There were only 3 games (as in the reform card) that I was unpleasant.. Although I was unpleasant I freaking tried to help the team and all the teams did in that game is call me bad and more.. they didn't get in ANY kind of trouble... What the hell? They didn't help me and they trolled me.. When I clearly needed help and was trying to get in better terms with them they just left me for myself when easily we could've grouped and won. I kept dying like that and eventually started to blow up.... I kept going at them over and over...

Literally I have no reason to be toxic unless someone is messing me up and such... and Ironically they report me after they do the bad stuff to me and i get upset... lliterally i can't even just mute them.... So here is what I sent them after I asked to be un banned after I honestly told them that i was actually trying to be better and such.

I Also uploaded a link with me making a play with Project Zed (which i bought RP with I also bought rp with Zed on sale. Coz I main him..)

They just said the same thing they always say when someone askes to be un ban.. Because of escelated punishments or whatever, You have been banned... so no you can't be un banned... Just like a copy and paste haha. Here is what i told them after I asked if I could move the RP i just recently bought to my new account. (They said === Nope sorry I cant transfer stuff to different accounts.. - Screw you -)

What else CAN you help with? Cuz all I see from Player support... is NO support.

League's punishing system is terrible... The game is great but punishing system is terrible.. Sure i said some bad words but the people were doing even worse things to me for example: They kept callin me bad and such but never said a bad word.. so they didn't get detected... they never help me AND call me bad but nope they don't get it trouble... thats the only reason i get upset and start saying bad things because noone sees them doing wrong when they don't help when they could've easily.. the league punishing system is terrible.. wayy to sensitive..... I wasn't even being toxic in most those games those games were the only 3 i was actually kinda upset... and not even.... doesn't make any sense... League is the WORST game when it comes to punishments and such... You have no punishments .. The only punishment you DO have is perma banning... and perma banning is so fucking stupid. literally fucking stupid... Seriously. It doesn't do shit as they can get back on on another account... ALSO All it fucking does.. is steal goddamn money.. what the fuck.. I JUST bouoght RP and right after i buy it you fucking perma ban me.. What the hell.. and then you say sorry i can't transfer the shit to anoher account... Fucking stupid.. Riot is stealing damn money and people are noticing.... Your company will go freaking down if you keep doing this.. Replace perma banning to more simple and efficient/effective punishments like muting for 100 games and maybe even Perma Mute..Perma Muting should be your worst punishments Perma Muting would work SO MUCH BETTER...... than just Perma Banning.. Perma Banning LITERALLY DOES NOTHING. Whilst Perma Muting would let the people play and enjoy still and put their money into the game still (more money for you greedy bunches) but not be able to talk.. not being able to talk would let them start realizing their anger.. They would play but not talk therfore the community gets a bit better becuase they cant be toxic in the game and spread it.. When PERMA BANNING doesn't do anything except make them quit (like Dunkey) and make another account (when they would be even more angrier on their new accoutn and spread toxicity even more like bacteria or viruses)... Don't you guys understand??

Seriously... Your ratings would go up so much more if you fixed that.. Maybe at Christmas.. unban the banned accounts. And instead give them a two-week suspension.. I'm pretty sure everyone would've learned their lesson by then. Or don't give them a two-week suspension... Just unban their accounts and make them mute for like 100 games.. Even 100 game mute is TONS more effective than just Perma Bannng.. seriously. If you guys can actually be a proper support instead of constantly denying to help in a 'kind' way... People would love this game so much more.... Stop being so robotics and actually have feelings... this game would be so much better.

THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD NEED TO PERMA BAN IS FOR HACKERS AND SCRIPTERS AND SUCH. IF IT IS A BEHAVIOURAL PROBLEM THEN DON'T PERMA BAN. JUST MUTE THEM PERMANENTLY..

Don't you guys think Perma Mute would be tons more effective? What do you think.. Shouldn't banned people get a second chance. They're freaking PEOPLE. PEOPLE CHANGE. What do you think?

Wish all us banned people luck for a second chance that we deserve. -Excuse some language that I use- Amumu

41 Comments

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

Leagues uses a 4-step punishment system;

  • 10 game chat restriction
  • 25 game chat restriction
  • 14 day account ban
  • Permanent account ban

Did you receive these punishments before your permanent ban, and if so, how long ago? If not (and preferably even if) could you share your reform card? Only in extreme cases will they skip punishment tiers.

Typically if one player gets punished and another didn't in one game for the same behavior, it's because the punished player is more consistently toxic and has used up his chances. These other players get the same consideration as you have throughout your games. If this was not the case then you would've been permabanned a long time ago just because someone else was; when you turn the situation around it doesn't feel right to you anymore, does it?

Faith Breaker1 votes

I can't find a single post you make that sounds like anything other then air bubbles coming out of Riot's butt. You're a brown noser DTN. It's disgusting obious do you really think anything you say is taken seriously by anyone not already plugged in? You do don't you? Oh that's delightful keep forward.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Idk what happened to make you so toxic, but I apologize. It's a shame you feel you have to act this way.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Being personally (and when I say personally, I mean directly, not a general message I got offended by, remarks directedly solely towards my person) insulted and disrespcted by, on two seperate occasions, two different Riot Employees.

And having every subsequent action and attempt to find recourse met with no concern. So yes. In return I have no respect for Riot, distain, wraith, and vitriol. Do not apologize. You did not cause my stress or anxiety. You just represent an ever present target, an icon, a reminder that those in power, and those kisses the asses of those in power, tend to become exempt from the same rules and expectations of everyone else.

I feel no shame in despising unjust treatment of others. Does the rattlesnake feel ashamed for biting the foot that treads upon it?

ModIts Yuu and Mi1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k2ZW2wtb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-10T17:54:47.592+0000)

Idk what happened to make you so toxic, but I apologize. It's a shame you feel you have to act this way.

Starting to like your posts more and more.

Solafrizzle1 votes

I did get those 4-step punisments but my suspension (14-day ban) was like 2-3 months ago and the mathces they show on the reform card is basically the only 3 games that month i had that i was toxic... (Mainly cuz they didn't help and kept saying i was bad) and i was just down that game trying to play league to make my feelings better :/.. I will try to get my reform card on here.

Solafrizzle1 votes

Btw I DID receive those punishments and i was getting better. but the last punishment was like 2-3 months ago. In like January or the begining of february

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

It takes 3 months for your punishment tier to drop 1 step.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/mNBeEEkI/d/p7scKW1K?comment=00050000000000000000

Solafrizzle1 votes

Ty.. then i don't know why I wasn't put in a 2 week suspension..... Is there any way that I could like check the dates... its hopeless anyways tho.. My new account is

MidKingArtoz (NA)

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

You can submit a Support Ticket and they should be able to let you know how long ago the 14 day ban was. The 3 month period begins when the last punishment ends, rather than when it started.

Solafrizzle1 votes

Kay I will see.. Because I know it should've stopped around the beginning of february..

aimzz1 votes

I never got a 10 or 25 game restriction just 14 day because of an enemy team being butt hurt about losing when we made a comeback

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

You can skip tiers for extremely toxic behavior. For chat, this is typically the use of hate speech (like racial slurs) or telling people they should kill themselves. Gameplay offenses like intentionally feeding automatically skip to account bans.

As this thread is very old, you should create a new post on Player Behavior if you wish to continue a discussion about an account punishment.

Meeptheking3 votes

Most bans are too harsh, and if you get toxic teammates that report you for long enough, you get banned... :(. +1

Solafrizzle1 votes

Yeah... thats what happened to me alot :( Ty. My New account is going to be

MidKingArtoz

Add me... (I have to download it again since i was trying other servers for better ping and maybe less toxic players. but i'm going back to NA) i'll add you as soon as i can :) Hopefully i'll be lucky enough to not get paired with as much toxic players.

Faith Breaker2 votes

Just make another account, never buy RP again, and keep playing. With the new half xp to lvl30 and the hextech system, smurfs are more desirable then ever. Keep playing, and keep being you. Riot can't dictate the way you act in their game. If you never own the content you pay for then they don't own your first amendment rights. Keep playing. You get banned again hey perfect excuse to start a new account and try out different runes on the improved grind to lvl30.

Every new smurf you make unlocks more chances for hextech chests and new ways to play the game. I'm on my third smurf and nothing Riot ever does is gonna change the way I play MY game. Until I get an explicit apology for Riot Oak and Watashii I'll never consider Riot anything else but a punching bag for my enjoyment.

Account gets banned

Makes new one. Has fun

Has fun without buying any RP

Revelation

Solafrizzle1 votes

I see and i was going to do that..but you see it takes 2 months just to get 6300ip xD

Solafrizzle1 votes

But I will. I guess i can use the IP Boost to get Zed again and then my journey to 6300IP begins again. Sad how they just perma ban people x.x dissapointing. Sucks cuz i was truly getting better haha.

Faith Breaker3 votes

A perma banned player will never, buy RP, again

The point of a company is to profit.

I guess the number of weaboo kids spending mommy and daddy's money on Teemo hats and t shirts makes Riot more money then the contributing members of society with jobs and responsbility that appreciate their right to vote, drink, go to war and kill someone, and exercise first amendment rights.

Solafrizzle1 votes

Yeah..

Faith Breaker1 votes

The time it will take to get you to lvl30 is half what it used to be. Also take this chance to try a new path to lvl30. Don't buy and use the typical runes you always have. Instead of buying Armor Pen or M. Pen reds try flat AD or AP. Every used Movement Speed Quints? Try those.

Each new account also has access to its own special first time hextech chest. So technically what stops a player from making new accounts over and over and opening Purple Hextech Chests over and over until they got content they really like then main that account?

Nothing. Nothing!

Oleandervine2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Faith Breaker,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k2ZW2wtb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-10T10:27:18.922+0000)

Just make another account, never buy RP again, and keep playing. With the new half xp to lvl30 and the hextech system, smurfs are more desirable then ever. Keep playing, and keep being you. Riot can't dictate the way you act in their game. If you never own the content you pay for then they don't own your first amendment rights. Keep playing. You get banned again hey perfect excuse to start a new account and try out different runes on the improved grind to lvl30.

Every new smurf you make unlocks more chances for hextech chests and new ways to play the game. I'm on my third smurf and nothing Riot ever does is gonna change the way I play MY game. Until I get an explicit apology for Riot Oak and Watashii I'll never consider Riot anything else but a punching bag for my enjoyment.

Account gets banned

Makes new one. Has fun

Has fun without buying any RP

Revelation

I have a very easy trick for not getting permabanned and having to go through the effort of making new accounts - don't be d**k. First of all, First Ammendment rights extend to public, government owned establishments, not privately owned. The owners of any private establishment has the right to remove you from their establishment if you are violating rules they have set up to ensure their business runs smooth. Same goes for privately owned chatrooms, websites, and games online. Furthermore, First Ammendment rights aren't a get-out-of-jail-free passport for you to just ignore established rules and foster hostility. Rules are there for reasons, and naturally you will be removed if you continually break them. Learn your law before you start throwing it around.

Faith Breaker1 votes

You can't possibly see the look on my face right now. Lord heavens, I wish you could. Bruh, I wish you could see the look on my face.

The owners of any private establishment has the right to remove you from their establishment if you are violating rules they have set up to ensure their business runs smooth

Then I walk right back in. Riot has no power over me. They can't stop me from coming back. Remove me from their restablishment. Lol ok kid here I am? Where's Riot's all might power?

It's jabroni's like you kid that keep my fire fueled.

Oleandervine2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Faith Breaker,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k2ZW2wtb,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2016-04-11T11:52:35.063+0000)

You can't possibly see the look on my face right now. Lord heavens, I wish you could. Bruh, I wish you could see the look on my face.

The owners of any private establishment has the right to remove you from their establishment if you are violating rules they have set up to ensure their business runs smooth

Then I walk right back in. Riot has no power over me. They can't stop me from coming back. Remove me from their restablishment. Lol ok kid here I am? Where's Riot's all might power?

It's jabroni's like you kid that keep my fire fueled.

Yes, but that that point, see the first sentence in my comment. Repeatedly entering and committing the same negative behavior is just griefing and not at all a mature reaction, and veiling that action under the guise of rights just makes it all disrespectful and patronizing to everyone. Learn to express your rights with respect and dignity, and you won't ever run into any problems.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Feed more......more.....please

IgnobleTempest2 votes

{quoted}

I have a very easy trick for not getting permabanned and having to go through the effort of making new accounts - don't be d**k. First of all, First Ammendment rights extend to public, government owned establishments, not privately owned. The owners of any private establishment has the right to remove you from their establishment if you are violating rules they have set up to ensure their business runs smooth. Same goes for privately owned chatrooms, websites, and games online. Furthermore, First Ammendment rights aren't a get-out-of-jail-free passport for you to just ignore established rules and foster hostility. Rules are there for reasons, and naturally you will be removed if you continually break them. Learn your law before you start throwing it around.

I agree, freedom of speech is your ability to have a voice without retaliation from GOVERNMENT, privately owned businesses can and will see you out if you decide to be toxic on their premises. Now i know the op is butthurt from being banned, but you should've thought about that before you said whatever you said. Two wrongs do not make a right. Be the better person and grow a thick skin. Its the only way you will be able to survive the toxic players.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Waiting on Riot to send Lyte to my front door and use his asian kung fu to kick my ass.

Until then Riot ain't doing shit to stop me.

IgnobleTempest1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Faith Breaker,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k2ZW2wtb,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2016-04-11T12:30:11.273+0000)

Waiting on Riot to send Lyte to my front door and use his asian kung fu to kick my ass.

Until then Riot ain't doing shit to stop me.

Well thats you enjoy the hard times.

Solafrizzle2 votes

Thanks for the advice.. but its pretty hard to grow 'thick skin' when everyone around you has Darius axes with a 100% crit (toxicity) and bleed to report you because they're the ones being toxic.. Can't really stop that... Ignore them? Oh they still report you and you freaking banned because you got reported by ur whole team and somehow ur team convinced the enemy that ur in the wrong.. 9x Reports... Thick Skin can't stop that.. you just get perma'd instantly haha.. I guess you wouldn't know until you experience it urself. :/

item 3026 doesn't always save you... Not even Tryndamere 's ult.

IgnobleTempest1 votes

{quoted}

Thanks for the advice.. but its pretty hard to grow 'thick skin' when everyone around you has Darius axes with a 100% crit (toxicity) and bleed to report you because they're the ones being toxic.. Can't really stop that... Ignore them? Oh they still report you and you freaking banned because you got reported by ur whole team and somehow ur team convinced the enemy that ur in the wrong.. 9x Reports... Thick Skin can't stop that.. you just get perma'd instantly haha.. I guess you wouldn't know until you experience it urself. :/

item 3026 doesn't always save you... Not even Tryndamere 's ult.

Can you put up the chat logs then?

Solafrizzle1 votes

lol I want to... and this'll prob make me look bad.. but I can't. The League thing isn't working.. I was trying to see if I would have better ping on some other servers and maybe get better players.

But I decided to go back to NA becuz all the other servers have 290 ping lel. So I deleted the riot games folder and went to uninstall. It said I couldn't uninstal becase it didn't exist.. It was still on the 'Programs list' tho... I click on it. Press uninstal. I can't. (It says This action can only be executed on existing programs.' AND I cant even download the league client becuz it says A version of league is on there.. So i'm freakign stuck xD.

Solutions?

Ye 9942 votes

lol FUCK riot and there punish system. It makes no sense when the only means of communication is through the chat. Some people are just toxic so give them CHAT restrictions, not a gameplay restrictive ban. That should be used for people that are disrupting game play not typing mean WORDS into a meaningless chat. I will not support this game and alot of people i know wont either. Its dying and thats good.

FUCK RIOTERS HAHA

ModIts Yuu and Mi1 votes

So let me get this straight:

-You got a chat ban -You didnt learn your lesson, so you got another chat ban -You STILL didnt learn your lesson, so you got a time ban -You STILL didnt learn your lesson, so you got a time ban -Within 3 months, you STILL didnt learn your lesson, so Riot said "fuck it, no more chances, Perma."

And now you're upset.

First off, "buying RP" doesn't mean you're unbannable. Paying money doesn't give you leeway to be a dick.

Second off, this "hurting Riot's sales" is bullshit. They lose one paying customer per permaban. They lose -more- paying customers because assholes make others feel so shitty in this game that they stop playing more.

Third off, "Grow thicker skin"-- Okay, no, it's not okay to be a dick to someone just because you're behind a screen. Act like this in the real world, there's repercussions. Act like this online and saying "just mute" doesn't act as an excuse.

Fourth off, what does your Bronze MMR Normals match (yes, I checked your match history extensively) have to do with a permaban? Are you trying to show off LC$Bigplay$ while discussing a perma?

Fifth off, of course they won't transfer RP. If they did that, people would just keep being assholes in game (i.e., the person who gets two chat restricts, two time bans, then doesn't learn, gets a perma, then swears he'll be fine again) and keep ruining people's games. Which, in turn, makes more people upset at toxic players, more likely to say "wtf Riot why aren't you dealing with these people?", and costs them more money then saying "no" to you.

Sixth off, they aren't stealing shit. Reading the EULA (End User License Agreement-- what you accept as a prompt whenever there's a new patch, after pressing "Play") shows you, if you read it, that you don't -own- any of your skins essentially. Basically, -Riot- owns what you buy. You're moreso "renting" your skins. You "rent" them on the terms and conditions that you won't be a dick.

Seventh off, Riot isn't alone in this. There are other games that do this as well.

You know I could keep going, but I think at this point I've made my point clear.

You fucked up, paid the price. You fucked up again, paid the price again. You fucked up again, paid the price again. You fucked up again, paid the price again.

And now, within 3 months, you fucked up yet again and are upset that you paid the final price.

No one cares.

Solafrizzle1 votes

You said No one cares.. well obviously people do (even you since you freakng replied) becuz people are replying.. if you don't care then don't stop to comment. Also I didn't get a second time ban. I was being better and infact i did learn my retarded lesson. Thats the reason i'm pissed. I wasn't really doing much wrong while the team was screwing around and what not reporting me (becuz i wasn't doing the greatest) and blaming me for everything instead of helping me catch up and win.

Next idk where you saw 'hurting riot's sales' AND ur stupid for saying that I agree that people should just 'grow thicker skin'. I was the one that said you can't just grow thicker skin -_- If you're not going to help or anything and just post bs.. you might as well ignore this whole discussion.

Solafrizzle1 votes

I did eventually become toxic in those games it shows on the reform card since as I explained many times before... the team keeps messing you up and blames you, calls you bad, and grief you (By seeming like they're coming to help a probable team fight win, they book it without stopping to cc the enemy or help in any way.). I got fed up and kept telling them some things which was bad on my part/ but not as bad as they were being.. Which (again) is the reason i'm upset.

ModIts Yuu and Mi1 votes

{quoted}

I did eventually become toxic in those games it shows on the reform card since as I explained many times before... the team keeps messing you up and blames you, calls you bad, and grief you (By seeming like they're coming to help a probable team fight win, they book it without stopping to cc the enemy or help in any way.). I got fed up and kept telling them some things which was bad on my part/ but not as bad as they were being.. Which (again) is the reason i'm upset.

Kk, I'm going to list the part that doesn't matter. Keep in mind this doesn't matter in -any- elo, but on top of that, you're expecting shit out of Bronze players and then blaming them. So here, let me list what doesn't matter.

{quoted}

... the team keeps messing you up and blames you, calls you bad but not as bad as they were being.. Which (again) is the reason i'm upset.

Now here's the part that does matter.

{quoted}

I did eventually become toxic in those games it shows on the reform card... I got fed up and kept telling them some things which was bad on my part

That's why you got it.

Ban deserved.

ModIts Yuu and Mi1 votes

{quoted}

You said No one cares.. well obviously people do (even you since you freakng replied) becuz people are replying.. if you don't care then don't stop to comment. Also I didn't get a second time ban. I was being better and infact i did learn my retarded lesson. Thats the reason i'm pissed. I wasn't really doing much wrong while the team was screwing around and what not reporting me (becuz i wasn't doing the greatest) and blaming me for everything instead of helping me catch up and win.

Next idk where you saw 'hurting riot's sales' AND ur stupid for saying that I agree that people should just 'grow thicker skin'. I was the one that said you can't just grow thicker skin -_- If you're not going to help or anything and just post bs.. you might as well ignore this whole discussion.

Shoulda clarified: No one cares in the long run.

Also if you got hit with this you didn't learn your lesson.

Tell ya what though. You have a shot at getting every single person's sympathy.

Post your chat logs here. They shoulda been emailed to you.

Solafrizzle1 votes

Alright I'll check my email an post it. Thx tho :P

IgnobleTempest1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Challenger Nid ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k2ZW2wtb,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-04-11T19:17:30.975+0000)

So let me get this straight:

-You got a chat ban -You didnt learn your lesson, so you got another chat ban -You STILL didnt learn your lesson, so you got a time ban -You STILL didnt learn your lesson, so you got a time ban -Within 3 months, you STILL didnt learn your lesson, so Riot said "fuck it, no more chances, Perma."

And now you're upset.

First off, "buying RP" doesn't mean you're unbannable. Paying money doesn't give you leeway to be a dick.

Second off, this "hurting Riot's sales" is bullshit. They lose one paying customer per permaban. They lose -more- paying customers because assholes make others feel so shitty in this game that they stop playing more.

Third off, "Grow thicker skin"-- Okay, no, it's not okay to be a dick to someone just because you're behind a screen. Act like this in the real world, there's repercussions. Act like this online and saying "just mute" doesn't act as an excuse.

Fourth off, what does your Bronze MMR Normals match (yes, I checked your match history extensively) have to do with a permaban? Are you trying to show off LC$Bigplay$ while discussing a perma?

Fifth off, of course they won't transfer RP. If they did that, people would just keep being assholes in game (i.e., the person who gets two chat restricts, two time bans, then doesn't learn, gets a perma, then swears he'll be fine again) and keep ruining people's games. Which, in turn, makes more people upset at toxic players, more likely to say "wtf Riot why aren't you dealing with these people?", and costs them more money then saying "no" to you.

Sixth off, they aren't stealing shit. Reading the EULA (End User License Agreement-- what you accept as a prompt whenever there's a new patch, after pressing "Play") shows you, if you read it, that you don't -own- any of your skins essentially. Basically, -Riot- owns what you buy. You're moreso "renting" your skins. You "rent" them on the terms and conditions that you won't be a dick.

Seventh off, Riot isn't alone in this. There are other games that do this as well.

You know I could keep going, but I think at this point I've made my point clear.

You fucked up, paid the price. You fucked up again, paid the price again. You fucked up again, paid the price again. You fucked up again, paid the price again.

And now, within 3 months, you fucked up yet again and are upset that you paid the final price.

No one cares.

Ok when i said grow a thicker skin, i meant they shouldnt let words cause them to react in a way that would get them in trouble. Or in other words, let the assholes say what they want and report them for it.

Furor Nexis1 votes

Hey guys,

As Nami said, this thread is extremely old. I'll be locking this one down but feel free to continue the conversation in Player Behavior.

--Furor Nexis

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