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I dont understand the use of negative attitude reports.

Fallie··2 votes·819 views

Like am I supposed to have a great attitude when my team picks double mid and i get stuck at bot? I don't understand why i should get reported for having a negative attitude when I have trolls on my team. It's implied that im supposed to be happy and having a good time while i get 1v2'd constantly and have no chance to accomplish anything that match and also have 2 mid laners that are trying to fuck eachother over and end up feeding also. Obviously this isnt the only example. I'm sure many people have experienced having to lane with a troll at bot lane or just having an afk or troll on their team in general. Like why the fuck should I be reported for beign upset that i just had to waste 45 minutes of my time with trolls. This whole situation is just infuriating. I have a hundred things stressing me out in every day life. When i want to take a break from it and this is what I get I think it's justified for me to have a shitty attitude about it.

26 Comments

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Being obnoxious, toxic, or whatever kind of bad attitude it is, can not help your team but it almost always hurts. Nobody appreciates it or thinks it is justified when they lose the game over a couple children arguing. Responding negatively to a troll is the worst thing you can do.

Narsicus3 votes

You are curious at what point you can reasonably start calling out your team for being trolls or whatnot in all chat?

The answer is pretty simple, there is no point where you can do that.

If you feel you have a troll on your team suck it up and report them, no need to start flailing around in chat to make yourself feel better or more justified or something, that can only worsen the situation as if they are trolling you are giving them what they want and if they are not trolling you might set them on tilt like you have yourself.

I am also willing to bet that 9 out of 10 times that these trolls are just people having a bad game or trying something different than the established meta.

All in all it is not a problem if you get angry, it happens, but when you start spreading that to everyone else in game that is your choice and it is one that will never have a positive outcome. I recommend watching Sky's video on DST to see how to react to people in game, being positive to your allies WILL improve your games, it will improve your ranking, and it will never get you banned.

proud and bronze2 votes

I always report whoever tells me to report someone else. tattle tales, narcs, rats, whatever you want to call them - they are the lowest kind of scum.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

So, instead of reducing the number of people ruining your games, you want to get rid of those who don't?

The Loli Bully1 votes

Well opposite side of it, the only people who ruin games for me are people who play bad. I could care less what they type so long as they play good. Typing something mean to me doesn't waste 30 minutes of my time. If it was a ranked game you probably should've dodged seeing double mid and avoid it all together and let them suffer in their own autism, losing 3 LP is nothing.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Being toxic in chat easily upsets people and makes them play worse. Aside from contributing to your loss, it just makes for an unpleasant experience. It's clear by your language that you are the toxic one in your games, and no wonder why you're defending that kind of attitude.

The Loli Bully1 votes

Don't project onto me, not all players are weak minded and emotional and play worse if someone says something bad. I would use it as fuel to prove them wrong.

And all I said was to dodge the Q to avoid playing the game all together, I didn't realize avoiding games all together was also considered 'toxic' along with everything else in this game it seems.

And it's not defending a kind of attitude it's called having an opinion, oh that's right you just want everyone to hold hands and agree on everything it seems, muh conflicts.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Not projecting at all. You are literally calling people autistic right here and retard elsewhere. You're a toxic jerk, no doubt.

let them suffer in their own autism

if you lose you just look like a retard

The Loli Bully1 votes

So purposely losing a game and wasting 20-30 minutes of time for 9 other players when 2 people fight over mid is a smart and intellectual thing for a nice player to do?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I don't care if you won or lost your game. Being a jerk only hurts your chances, and makes the experience worse for everyone even if you win. If you think you can justify it, your parents didn't raise you right.

Fredart2 votes

Different play style isn't being a troll, its having your own play style. not everyone needs to follow the herd.

The Loli Bully3 votes

It's only having your own play style if it works, if you lose you just look like a retard.

Fredart1 votes

I win about 50% of the time so it works going duo mid duo top or trio bot instead of jungle.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Responding negatively to a troll is the worst thing you can do. Don't call them out, everyone on your team will play worse if you do. When 10 min later you realize that they just got countered in lane and they are doing well in teamfights you might realize that they weren't trolling, but just having a bad laning phase and you go on to win the game.

Alljoy1 votes

Being upset irl =/= Raging about being upset in chat, just saying.

Fallie2 votes

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Being upset irl =/= Raging about being upset in chat, just saying.

Why is calling someone out on their shit and asking people to report them considered against the rules/raging/bitching/negative attitude. Sure maybe its negative for the trolls but why should anyone care about their experience? They obviously don't care about ours and I honestly think the game would be better off without negative attitude as a report option. I'm not ruining the game for anyone else by having a shitty attitude about this. The game was already ruined anyways

Alljoy2 votes

Because one report per incident suffices, there's no need to stir up a shitstorm in /all chat, is there?

Fallie2 votes

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Because one report per incident suffices, there's no need to stir up a shitstorm in /all chat, is there?

How do i know that they arent assuming our team isnt trying to pull off some wierd meta. Best I can do is explain the situation but once i do that im suddenly bitching and a whiner.

Alljoy3 votes

They don't need to assume squat, your report alone is enough of a red flag.

But the moment you start being upset and whiny in chat, you're just as obnoxious as the trolls you're so miffed about. Honestly as a player, I'd just mute all of you and carry on with my game.

Eleshakai1 votes

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Why is calling someone out on their shit and asking people to report them considered against the rules/raging/bitching/negative attitude. Sure maybe its negative for the trolls but why should anyone care about their experience? They obviously don't care about ours and I honestly think the game would be better off without negative attitude as a report option. I'm not ruining the game for anyone else by having a shitty attitude about this. The game was already ruined anyways

Because they might not be trolling. They might just be having a bad day, and if you are a jerk to them, it just makes them worse. And now you're dragging the rest of your allies down too simply because you can't keep your mouth shut.

The reality is insulting your allies turns the game from being 'oh well, we're losing and someone isn't performing' into 'RAGE RAGE RAGE'. It draws everyone down, and it has NO CHANCE of having any positive outcome.

The person isn't going to improve based off of your childishly poor behaviour, so all you're doing is bringing YOURSELF down and possibly bringing your allies down.

The best thing to do is just play your best, focus on improving, and then report the person - if they're legitimately trolling and not just having a bad game - at the end of the game.

mirAcIe1 votes

Or you can stop taking every game so serious and try to make the most of every situation. It's your time you're volunteerly wasting on raging.

You can't just have perfect expectations for every game of soloq matchmaking, because you'll end up having a bad time. Why even play this game if it makes you so freaking angry so easily? It's not like you HAVE to play it.

Emperor Cynric1 votes

Its a magical harmonious world that people think exists.... no it doesn't. Five random people on each team what could go wrong? of course people are going to argue and fight with each other, especially behind a computer screen with a hidden identity. its human nature to get mad at other people. this "we all need to get along' crap is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!

Jubbinaut1 votes

Being friends isn't required. Getting angry isn't punishable.

Nobody thinks things are all rainbow unicorn farts, and nobody's really trying to make it that. But we can at least try to be civil, regardless of whatever jackassery someone else is trying to pull.

Emperor Cynric1 votes

i know i only get mad at the people who bring up stupid things like hoping i die or death threats Thats when all chances of being civil die.

Jubbinaut1 votes

There's no benefit to be gained by responding to toxicity with more toxicity. It's a losing equation. The people caught in the crossfire suffer, the jackass that started it suffers, and you suffer - as well as running the risk of sanction for yourself. Nothing good or beneficial comes of it for anyone.

Now, if the emotional release is worth all of that to you, then by all means. Do what you feel you need to. But remember in such situations that in the end, you're responsible for what you say and do.

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