Is the normal tryharding trend a "healthy" thing for fun ?

FrozenN··2 votes·430 views

Hello, I would like to discuss about something that bothered me for a few months, the tryharding "meta" or trend in normal game. It's totally acceptable that people want to win their game, but what about stop being so stubborn to win game ?

What about stop playing riven, katarina, and all the most op champ actually to win ? This game is no longer challenging, you are obliged to play "meta" or good pick if you want to deal with the champ that we face 90% of the time. (If you didn't face a riven, or a katarina in your last 10 games, you have my respect.) I no longer get fun in normal game, i'm obliged to do other game mode like aram. I'm playing with my silver/unranked friends, we oftenly face platinium opponent, and holy shit, every game seems to be a diamond promotion game ! A game is about to have fun, and for me i'm no longer getting fun in normal game, not at all, being so stressed to be the best to win 70 ip is getting boring. What about you guys think ?

Am I supposed to recreate an account to play with my friends to get fun ? Or am I just unlucky to fall vs such opponent ?

(sorry for my english, there is certainly errors, it's not my native language)

7 Comments

Sarutobi2 votes

It's sadly what's happens when you play this game too much! You just see it much more clearer! There is nothing you can do about. It also has to deal with how riot handles their game! It's all about esports/LCS/worlds/etc. because people only care about what the pros plays and see them playing said same champions over and over again it's bound to get stale and repetitive!

The sad thing is though that at least for me other modes like ARAM and the special event modes we get from time to time (Urf, doom bot, king Poro, ascension, etc are all ruined by try hards! I remember people complaining to me how I wanted to play a champion I wanted to play (to have fun ) instead of the op champions for that mode to the point where people would threaten me with getting reported. It's happens to all the modes it's not even funny. Until riot does something it will continue to happen. Till then you just have to live with it or just stop playing. For me I just see myself playing less and less. Unless a new champion or mode comes out I'm usually not playing. And even then it's only for maybe a couple of days. After that I'm offline playing other games!

FrozenN1 votes

I'm glad i'm not the only one who think that way, look at the other mobas, the game are a lot funnier (Hots) LoL is just full of tryhard people, it's crazy ! People who want to have fun seem to represent only a minority.. sadly, back in S1-S2, it wasn't like that item 3070

ValyrianBlade1 votes

WHOA hold on. How can you possibly say that a try-hard ruins the game for ANYONE? No one is forcing you to pick riven/kat/meta champion. You say the game isn't challenging but complain about people picking strong champions - pick an off-meta champion and take the disadvantage and there's your challenge. You say the game isn't challenging but complain that as silver you're against Platinum players - actually play against them instead of giving up and feeding or going afk, there's your challenge.

A try hard does not hurt anyone else's experience. They play to win. Short of them dodging your bad picks (in which case they have a time penalty and you can requeue at no cost) they only affect your play positively. They try to win so they aren't feeding your opponent making it impossible for you to play because someone on the other team can win a 1v5 fight.

The people with the "I want to mess around with a bad champion who is ad scaling except one skill has a 0.2 ap ratio so I'll go full ap and see if I can get a burst kill on their tank"-attitude are the ones who ruin the game. The ones who say "it's normals who cares" are the ones who ruin the game. From the sounds of your post, it's players LIKE YOU who ruin the game for most players.

Want to play something silly AND make terrible decisions in game? PLAY A CUSTOM GAME WITH YOUR FRIENDS OR EASY BOTS - don't come to normals and force people you've never met and who may want to play legitimately to cater to your silly needs when you can do exactly what you want in a custom game with people you know!

I have no problem with you doing something off meta but doing it right. Go viktor mid? Sure, he's terrible in the role right now as far as I'm concerned but if you play cautiously and build ap and magic pen I'm not going to care much. Go urgot top? Fine, just build him right and don't tower dive at level 2 please. The problem is you want to go ad Fiddlesticks or ap ashe or something... That garbage is for custom Games or bots. Don't make someone else not only lose but have to play for 35 min because you won't surrender yet you fed your Lane opponent 8 kills before bot Lane hit 6 and now they're roaming and 1 hitting everyone on the map. Some of us (MOST of us) that play normal Games (ESPECIALLY normal Draft) do so to practice for ranked because they either have insufficient runes or champion pool or want to get better in a role, etc... Not because we want to just accomplish irrelevant side goals like dealing over 2000 damage using an adc's ap scaling ultimate. We play normals for fun but WE ACTUALLY FIND THE GAME FUN, or at least a close game is fun.

If you're so tired of this game that you no longer have fun playing the actual game (again, feel free to play any champion you want just build them properly for the role you're playing and play passively don't go tower dive at level 2), then you should seriously consider why you're still playing League of Legends and should probably move on to something else...

FrozenN1 votes

You're right in some point, but I can't agree that people who play only kata and riven in normal are having fun. They play for win, only, and they pick op (yes they are, except you are playing them, you can't denied that) champ to do so, if I want to play a uncommon mage like veigar .. or lux, no matter if I play them well, I'm gonna loose the game cause they will have an advantage at some point. Op champions are taken due to their facility to win a game, and it's on that point that I complain. Tryhard people ruins the fun maybe not for them, but for those who are playing for fun, they ruin it.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

I have to disagree here. Neither kat nor riven are OP. They're definitely strong (note I don't play either of them, but I Lane against kat fairly regularly) but in no way are they unbeatable.

You will have a disadvantage at some point - so what? Lose a few games, get your mmr dropped to the point where you're sufficiently better than your opponents to make up for the disadvantage of playing a weaker champion. Not to mention, most of the time having a stronger champion doesn't mean a huge deal. As long as you play Lane somewhat passively and don't give up a bunch of free kills to them, they'll have no severe advantage by mid game. It will come to teamfights and player skill with their champions.

Not to mention veigar is an extremely strong pick against ap mid laners (e.g. kat, although she can build magic pen instead, but he should still counter her because she can't move during her ult = free stun land interrupts her ult let's your team dive her hard to deny resets). Lux would be a strong pick against ad mids because she has an extremely safe laning phase due to her long range and she can really zone the melee auto attackers with her range. She takes barrier often so she can survive the ad burst if she messes up and gets in to attack range even.

So from the two champions you listed, it sounds like you have a viable option to respond to any mid Lane pick. If you're complaining about being counter -picked, well I'm sorry but there are many champions who have counter picks and shouldn't be picked first - including meta champions. Counter-picking is part of Draft and I suppose that's why you have the option of blind pick.

FrozenN1 votes

Kata not that much, but riven .. lol

FHMarshy1 votes

So you are saying that because you want to win, just like the other people who play "OP" champs do, they are try hards?

If you want to play non-meta champs, be prepared to lose. Why are you expecting to win while playing non-meta champs?

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