banned for saying 'stfu' ...2 weeks really riot? does this punishment seem fair?

SKEEMZ·Aug 23, 2015·3 votes·3,373 views

hi guys i dont understand why ive been banned for 2 weeks when all i really said was 'stfu' or 'noob' is this really worthy of a 2 week ban? riot what the hell.

if someone is flaming me cos im having a bad game am i not in my rights to tell them to stfu....knowing full well the game would be fine in the late game. and alas, we won the game but after the game im reported and banned for 2 weeks? i really dont understand the logic

i will post the full email that riot sent me that aparently was so bad that i deserved a 2 week ban.

14 Day Behavior Suspension

SKEEMA,

You have received a 14 day ban following an extensive audit of in-game behavior within recent League of Legends matches.

Your peers judged your behavior to be far below the standards of the League of Legends community. Think through the conversation and reflect on your words. League is an intense, competitive game, but every player deserves respect. Read more about the effort to encourage sportsmanlike play, here.

Here are some chat logs that were identified as negative by other players in the community.

i think leona has ignite for me
my bad stupid flask
ty
u2
the fuck this champ lol
his stun doesnt use up his stack so can eat me aswell?
gj
he has so much cc
stfu man
he has 3 type of cc
and dived me
he only has kills
he has less farm
and no turret
so chill
late game hes useless with kills
all he have is cc
gj
cos i dont wana fight him with low
hp
why did u even fight
i wanted to b
no
he has 3 types of cc
he has a slow
which is a stun with stacks
and he eats
learn the champ
i need ult for him
is prob my highest counter
yes late he is nothing
cry...team game
3 to kill me while u lose drake nice decision jungler xD
blitz muted and reported
u dont realize while they take all team for me u take free dragon
so stfu flaming
leona ulted and they have no ults
come try
stfu
blitz noob u gave me away
stfu
flamer team why
tahm is useless in tf
xD
easy
lag
nice focus hahahha
easy
easy

can someone tell me why i deserve 2 weeks ban for this????? maybe chat ban at fking most i know its not nice to say 'easy' but when enemy team is talking shit in all chat and u win the game it feels good to rub it in. please riot. where can i even dispute this

38 Comments

VegasNevadaAug 23, 20158 votes

you're basically an @ss.. is what im seeing... have some respect for other people and if they act like you then report them

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

im an ass why?because it felt good to say easy (when it obviously wasnt) after winning a hard game? im an ass because i told blitz to stfu after he was flaming me constantly saying 'report report'? this deserves a 2 week ban? if im banned 2 weeks for this then every game i play someone on either my team or enemy team should be banned for 2 weeks also.

you can think im an ass all you want but the problem with this chat log is u dont see the context. dont mind if u call me an ass but if we were in game im guessing u calling me an ass u would deserve a 2 week ban by this logic ^ ;)

EncruxAug 23, 20157 votes

Just a reminder: Saying easy at the end of a hard game is a dick move and an humiliation to your enemies. Especially if they knew they played well. Saying something like that is like punching/kicking someone who is already on the ground. Disgusting.

Judging from your way of talking, you seem like a rude player to both, your teammates and enemies. I think you deserved that ban.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

if u are thinking me saying 'tahm is useless in tf' is anything negative, you are wrong. tahm was on the enemy team and i was just pointing out to my team it doesnt matter if tahm has kills because in team fights he wont be a problem.

yes it was a dick move saying easy im not denying that. and yet they were saying all kinds of stuff about me in all chat so i doubt they deserve your sympathy. for example after the tahm kench killed me and laughed in all chat and sayign im bad or w/e im sure me saying 'easy' after winning a hard game isnt the worst thing i could have ssaid and im sure they will get over it and not have sleepless nights like u are trying to make out

show me where i was rude to my team mates apart from me saying to blitz who was flaming me constantly to 'stfu' the one time i called him noob because i was waiting in a bush to gank the vayne and he pinged me to fall back and then he came and sat next to a ward that made the vayne retreat, so ofc i was angry and called him a noob. imo none of this is deserved of a 2 week ban like u seem to think? but ok.

i will love to see when u say something very minor that is deemed 'negative' and when u are banned for 2 weeks lets see if u find it very fair

Dateline NBCAug 23, 20153 votes

I think you need to stop saying stfu.

Just a thought.

LaserowlAug 23, 20152 votes

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easy easy

there you go

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

so youre saying i deserve a 2 week ban for saying easy. this is the point im trying to make. but thanks for your reply it was clearly very logical and took you alot of time and effort to explain any kind of point you thought you was making.

ZálamanderAug 24, 20153 votes

You don't deserve a 2 week ban.

You deserve a full ban, because you are spamming "easy" AND you are still thinking it's okay. So the punishment wasn't enough. You are playing the nice guy here, but Laserowl clearly showed you the reason for your ban. If you don't understand that, it's your own problem.

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

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You don't deserve a 2 week ban.

You deserve a full ban, because you are spamming "easy" AND you are still thinking it's okay. So the punishment wasn't enough. You are playing the nice guy here, but Laserowl clearly showed you the reason for your ban. If you don't understand that, it's your own problem.

full account ban for saying easy 3 times? thank god you are not riot. i know money doesnt protect people and rightly so, but ive spent hundereds of pounds on this account and you say i should lose out on all that because i said easy 3 times......i just cant even.....are you trolling me right now lol?

SKEEMZAug 23, 20152 votes

ok thanks for the replies guys. im clearly a scumbag for saying easy and telling a flamer to 'stfu' i need to go kill myself im that toxic. i deserve 2 week ban for saying stuff that goes unpunished in everyone elses games but ok. thanks. afk suicide now

KarKzzAug 23, 20152 votes

Please, give us the rest of the case. Oh, and you said easy. Deserved.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

this is the full case copy and pasted. i will provide the link if you think ive edited it. but thanks i didnt realise people got so upset over saying 'easy' its like i said something racist or homophobic. both of which i have seen go unpunished btw but w/e

http://link.email.riotgames.com/YesConnect/HtmlMessagePreview?a=JiCT_etp7RqAbE3Nqm0YC2sw&msgVersion=web

KarKzzAug 23, 20153 votes

Borderline. You were quite agressive, but if it is only for this match(we can't be sure) 14 days ban is way to much.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

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ZálamanderAug 24, 20151 votes

You spammed "easy". So don't play Mr. Nice Guy here. You clearly did it to insult your enemys.

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

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You spammed "easy". So don't play Mr. Nice Guy here. You clearly did it to insult your enemys.

correct. i said easy. 2 weeks ban justified? ok thats your opinion. in my opinion, thats far too harsh. but wow ok didnt realise saying easy was as bad as a racial or homophobic or family insult.

EvenestStephenAug 23, 20152 votes

Two weeks is kinda harsh for that but you were fairly toxic and based on your response to most comments I bet you have been toxic in other games too so that's probably why. In the future if someone gets you mad just mute the person or don't respond because it seems you don't really start problems just escalate them or continue them.

JubbinautAug 24, 20152 votes

This illustrates my biggest concern with the current Reform Card system. Because the system only sends logs of the game that triggered the case, it's perfectly possible to be sent logs that do not support the sanction issued.

This is - at best - problematic.

There are two reasons I believe this. First, it creates situations that are confusing to the punished player. It's difficult to learn to avoid a behavior when you don't know what that behavior is, and that's not an uncommon situation with this type of Reform Card. Secondly, it creates situations where other players can become confused about the validity and functions of the system, because the information that system presents is not representative of the information it used to make its decision.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

hard when a teammate is flaming you when they themself are doing pretty bad. i could and wanted to say at lot worse...and this is what is wrong with this whole system also...it doesnt say what was said in all chat or what was said in response to someone who is genuinely toxic

just a thought.....your response is not very helpful. i was disputing the fact that 2 weeks ban is harsh for saying something that is said in 99% of games. if im 2 week banned for this then i think the whole community would be banned if the system was fair.

hence why i said at most i deserve a chat ban.

FiruAug 24, 20151 votes

Overall, seems like your en route to be earning more than a two-week time out if you continue along this pattern of behaviors. Others' behaviors does not justify your own behavior, FYI. You most likely got the suspension because of a pattern of rude behavior not just that one instance. By most likely, I mean you certainly did that. Riot doesn't suspend because of a one time incident if all you said was STFU.

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

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Overall, seems like your en route to be earning more than a two-week time out if you continue along this pattern of behaviors. Others' behaviors does not justify your own behavior, FYI. You most likely got the suspension because of a pattern of rude behavior not just that one instance. By most likely, I mean you certainly did that. Riot doesn't suspend because of a one time incident if all you said was STFU.

so why send me an email saying this is the reason im banned for 2 weeks? if im getting honored in the games previous to this how is that even possible. listen im no angel, i admit it was wrong of me to say 'easy' but my problem was the punishment doesnt fit the crime.

FiruAug 24, 20151 votes

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so why send me an email saying this is the reason im banned for 2 weeks? if im getting honored in the games previous to this how is that even possible. listen im no angel, i admit it was wrong of me to say 'easy' but my problem was the punishment doesnt fit the crime.

Because good behavior in one game doesn't negate bad behavior in another game. I'm sure you've been a great teammate in some matches. I'll also assume based on the thread so far that you've been a bad teammate in others. Perhaps even, many more than you've been good. Once again, you probably got banned for a pattern of bad behavior, not one particular instance. The email probably either (a) selected a specific example of this bad behavior or (b) more generally said you were behaving poorly/negatively.

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

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Because good behavior in one game doesn't negate bad behavior in another game. I'm sure you've been a great teammate in some matches. I'll also assume based on the thread so far that you've been a bad teammate in others. Perhaps even, many more than you've been good. Once again, you probably got banned for a pattern of bad behavior, not one particular instance. The email probably either (a) selected a specific example of this bad behavior or (b) more generally said you were behaving poorly/negatively.

i cant help also being offended by you assuming im a bad team mate 'based on the thread'. Because i disagree with people saying that i deserve a 2 week ban it means im a negative and bad player?

Can you show me an example of on this thread where i have insulted anyone other than disagree with someones opinion that 2 weeks ban is deserved. i have posted the whole email so i dont know whats the confusion. it clearly states my behaviour in that game was deemed 'toxic'. yet the only things i can see that i said that can be considered negative was 'stfu' 'noob' and 'easy' and this isnt deserving of a 2 week account ban followed by 35 ranked game restriction. it just isnt. i see worse said in the majority of games that i know for a fact goes unpunished

thanks for your reply however, and for your assumption that im a bad person simply because i have my own opinion

FiruAug 24, 20151 votes

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i cant help also being offended by you assuming im a bad team mate 'based on the thread'. Because i disagree with people saying that i deserve a 2 week ban it means im a negative and bad player?

Can you show me an example of on this thread where i have insulted anyone other than disagree with someones opinion that 2 weeks ban is deserved. i have posted the whole email so i dont know whats the confusion. it clearly states my behaviour in that game was deemed 'toxic'. yet the only things i can see that i said that can be considered negative was 'stfu' 'noob' and 'easy' and this isnt deserving of a 2 week account ban followed by 35 ranked game restriction. it just isnt. i see worse said in the majority of games that i know for a fact goes unpunished

thanks for your reply however, and for your assumption that im a bad person simply because i have my own opinion

I'm assuming you've said more than STFU, noob, or easy in your games to warrant the 14-day ban. It's more than likely you don't recall saying these things (most people don't recall the exact nature of things they've said in the past). Based on the tone of your previous responses to people (though this is just my subjective evaluation of your tone) and the tone in this reply, I wouldn't say its too far of a stretch to assume you've raged more than your fair share in games. Especially, once again, if you have in fact received a two-week ban.

I never said you were a bad person. I only said that you've probably been a bad teammate. People are trying to help you understand why you got the two-week ban. You don't have to agree with them or myself. However, it does seem that you just want people to tell you that Riot was wrong and you are right. More than one person has said that you must have done worse or displayed constant poor behavior to be in the situation that you're in.

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

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I'm assuming you've said more than STFU, noob, or easy in your games to warrant the 14-day ban. It's more than likely you don't recall saying these things (most people don't recall the exact nature of things they've said in the past). Based on the tone of your previous responses to people (though this is just my subjective evaluation of your tone) and the tone in this reply, I wouldn't say its too far of a stretch to assume you've raged more than your fair share in games. Especially, once again, if you have in fact received a two-week ban.

I never said you were a bad person. I only said that you've probably been a bad teammate. People are trying to help you understand why you got the two-week ban. You don't have to agree with them or myself. However, it does seem that you just want people to tell you that Riot was wrong and you are right. More than one person has said that you must have done worse or displayed constant poor behavior to be in the situation that you're in.

i finally feel like im talking to an itellectual human being rather than the majority of replies i got on this thread such as 'you said easy gg u deserve 2 week ban'. It just confused me as to why ppl would just say i deserve a ban for saying easy. in my mind, a chat ban for however many games would have been a fair punishment, that is all i was disputing, wether this was a fair punishment.

besides, the 'easy' was more a defence mechanism to the abuse i was getting in /all chat for dying. enemy team saying 'omg tryn u so bad hahahha u die' etc so why when they all die at the end trying to chase me while my team kills them all for chasing me and i survive and we win the game off that team fight, why is it so bad for me to say 'easy' in response to insults thrown at me in all chat lol. people really are too sensitive if they can insult me all game in all chat but then get me banned for 2 weeks for saying it was easy when it obviously wasnt.

thanks for your reply, tbh this was all pointless anyway. majority think i deserve the ban for saying easy, the rest are sure i was toxic in other games which im sure i wasnt, but in the end riot wont change their mind anyway no matter if the whole forum agreed with me or not so hey.

i just want a more consistent and fair tribunal, the old tribunal was by far better.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

bear in mind everything looks worse when taken out of context....but am i the only one who thinks this is a harsh punishment ? 2 weeks for this? by this logic there should be 1 person banned for 2 weeks in every single game because i see alot worse in every game i play from enemy and allies alike.

R110Aug 23, 20152 votes

Let's breakdown what I'm seeing.

The beginning is fine. At the first stfu you try to defend your situation while basically dismissing what the other guy said. It sets a negative atmosphere but your not yet into major trouble. Then something happens, someone dies, some why questions get thrown around and you answer them and them ask the other guy why. Asking why questions is just lowering team morale and spending your time answering them doesn't really help winning the game. This is followed by a semi-rant about what Tahm does. Doesn't really serve any purpose, imo. At last you threaten to report, make fun of your team's decisions and being unsportsmanlike towards the other team. Obvious no no.

In the end, ask this question: What did you accomplish with your use of chat? To me, it seems you made 9 other people's game less fun. That + the consistency of these kind of things is the reason you got banned.

i see alot worse in every game i play from enemy and allies alike.

After the ban, you should do a little test. Don't use chat for a week and count how often you see the behaviour you normally see ingame.

At last, the top tip of the week: Don't respond to people asking the question "why?" and don't do it yourself. This way the chat is much more unlikely to escalate into the last ~30% of your log.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

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Let's breakdown what I'm seeing.

The beginning is fine. At the first stfu you try to defend your situation while basically dismissing what the other guy said. It sets a negative atmosphere but your not yet into major trouble. Then something happens, someone dies, some why questions get thrown around and you answer them and them ask the other guy why. Asking why questions is just lowering team morale and spending your time answering them doesn't really help winning the game. This is followed by a semi-rant about what Tahm does. Doesn't really serve any purpose, imo. At last you threaten to report, make fun of your team's decisions and being unsportsmanlike towards the other team. Obvious no no.

In the end, ask this question: What did you accomplish with your use of chat? To me, it seems you made 9 other people's game less fun. That + the consistency of these kind of things is the reason you got banned.

After the ban, you should do a little test. Don't use chat for a week and count how often you see the behaviour you normally see ingame.

At last, the top tip of the week: Don't respond to people asking the question "why?" and don't do it yourself. This way the chat is much more unlikely to escalate into the last ~30% of your log.

sigh this was my whole point.

the 'semi-rant' about tahm kench was all in response to the blitzcrank saying report me for feeding him. i was explaining i have more farm, taken his turret and in team fights it wont matter if he has kills. and i was explaining how he killed me. i was merely explaining he has alot of cc which is not good for the champion i was playing. i wouldnt just go on a rant for no reason

if the evelynn is asking why i didnt help when she died, and i explain that i was low hp and wanted to go base, this is bad? am i supposed to just ignore her asking why i went back? and she was fine, generally we all had a decent game and we won, apart from the blitzcrank who was flaming me the whole time. hence why i told him he is muted and reported.

how can u tell 'what the other guy has said'? this is also the problem, becuse in context to what was being said i actually didnt lose my cool that badly

im yet to see what i did that was so 'toxic' as league says to deserve 2 weeks account ban. i just wish u could see what was said and what was said in all chat etc because you are just making assumptions, most of your reply is all assumptions

R110Aug 23, 20151 votes

Maybe my statement about ignoring why-questions might be a bit too general. However doing so is never a negative thing to do. If someone asks why you didn't help, if you think that person isn't being salty and on tilt then that's fine I guess. But if it is someone like that blitzcrank it won't matter what you are going to tell him, it won't matter. When someone is acting like that, ignoring them is the better option.

Another thing, I'm not understanding the reason of adressing the blitzcrank after you said "muted and reported" (a bad idea btw as asking for reports is a punishable offense).

the 'semi-rant' about tahm kench was all in response to the blitzcrank saying report me for feeding him. i was explaining i have more farm, taken his turret and in team fights it wont matter if he has kills. and i was explaining how he killed me. i was merely explaining he has alot of cc which is not good for the champion i was playing. i wouldnt just go on a rant for no reason

I was referring to the part where you told your team how Tahm's kit works (I'm pretty sure your team exactly knows how Tahm works). That served no other purpose but saltiness. I'm sorry that my post isn't super clear.

Ultimately, the problem is that if you wouldn't have used chat the game would have been more fun for every player in the game. Ideally the ingame chat is used for strategic communication where the smart-pings aren't enough (and for joking around because it's fun :) ).

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

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Maybe my statement about ignoring why-questions might be a bit too general. However doing so is never a negative thing to do. If someone asks why you didn't help, if you think that person isn't being salty and on tilt then that's fine I guess. But if it is someone like that blitzcrank it won't matter what you are going to tell him, it won't matter. When someone is acting like that, ignoring them is the better option.

Another thing, I'm not understanding the reason of adressing the blitzcrank after you said "muted and reported" (a bad idea btw as asking for reports is a punishable offense).

I was referring to the part where you told your team how Tahm's kit works (I'm pretty sure your team exactly knows how Tahm works). That served no other purpose but saltiness. I'm sorry that my post isn't super clear.

Ultimately, the problem is that if you wouldn't have used chat the game would have been more fun for every player in the game. Ideally the ingame chat is used for strategic communication where the smart-pings aren't enough (and for joking around because it's fun :) ).

i never asked anyone to report blitz. i was merely telling him im done with his constant unfounded flaming and im puting him on mute. im well within my rights to tell him hes muted, so that anything he would have to say from that point on would be a waste of time

and the whole thing with tahm kench and how he works....if the team is asking me how i am dying to him under my turret then i feel like i need to explain to them that he has alot of cc which is why i died. if someone is confused and they dont understand that some champs dont do well against heavy cc match ups then i am also within my rights to explain how i died.

how is any of this even remotley toxic and deserving of a 2 week account ban? and incase u think the 'gj' etc was anything sarcastic it wasnt. this was me saying gj for when eve ganked me and got herself some kills. im a nice player and appreciative when the team helps, but if someone is constantly flaming me why am i the one at fault for telling them to stfu.

tribunal should either have full chat logs like it used to because its ridiculous currently. hard to tell what is said in sarcasm and what is real. for example how do they know if someone says 'gg or gj' when they die or when they get a kill. because if you die and someone says 'gj' on your team thats not very nice. yet im assuming for everytime they see 'gj' they assume its sarcastic.

i still stand by the fact that 2 weeks ban for this is ridiculous especially as ive heard once the 2 weeks are over and u get account back u also get a 35 ranked game ban which is an extra slap in the face for me being very slightly negative to someonbe out to make me angry

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

also the 'why' wasnt to blitzcrank. eve had been helpfull, but one time she ganked when i was low. i wanted to base but she went in. she died, and asked me in chat why i didnt go in. im not rude, she wasnt flaming so im not just going to ignore her, i was explaing that i wanted to go base because i was low hp.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

im not saying i wasnt negative and said stuff that was negative but to say im 'toxic' and ban for 2 weeks...please think logically before posting

i am 100% sure every single person here has said alot worse in a game and not had a 2 week ban. be honest with your replies, thanks

FiruAug 24, 20151 votes

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im not saying i wasnt negative and said stuff that was negative but to say im 'toxic' and ban for 2 weeks...please think logically before posting

i am 100% sure every single person here has said alot worse in a game and not had a 2 week ban. be honest with your replies, thanks

EvenestStephen did think logically. It's logical that you behaved far worse in the past games to warrant the 14-day ban. People here may have behaved worse too. Some of them may have been banned. Some may have just had one 'bad game' and not had any punishment. Once again, until you understand that this was probably the result of a pattern of behavior displayed by you, you're going to be seeing another ban in the future. What I mean by that is, you're probably not going to change your behavior and get punished again. I hope you prove me wrong.

LuggAug 23, 20151 votes

If you got banned for 2 weeks, it's due to a constant stream of reports. You got what you deserved.

SKEEMZAug 23, 20151 votes

not true, but thanks anyway. in my last game i was given teamwork and previous games honorable opponent but it counts for nothing.

SKEEMZAug 24, 20151 votes

just wondering also, where in the rules or terms and conditions does it say were not allowed to banter and say 'easy'. i would like if someone could quote a rule i have broken with that lol ;)

S0nic4310Aug 24, 20151 votes

it's ok bud. I got banned too for saying "ez" and "surrender you dumb fucking niggers we lost!" This game proves that there are so many butthurt cyrbabies who have 0 clue what to do with mental illness or downs. I too, like to be a dick and point out morons in game. lol