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Why not to spend your money on RP

Chillic··2 votes·509 views

As someone who has spent about $200 in rp points over time, I hope i can offer some advice to newer players who have joined league. The reason for me writing this, I hope many of you who read this decide on not purchasing any more rp for this "free to play game". League of Legends is a great game to play with your friends let loose relax have some fun. One of my issues i encountered is one form of having fun is making jokes and sometimes yes they do get out of hand in chat. The jokes then turn into he said she said REPORTED. After a few reports you will be suspended or banned the more you play if you are the type of person who cant go without criticising other players don't waste your money on RP. You will eventually be banned. I know most of you are fine and can go on playing league and hushing your constitutional right of freedom of speech and thats fine waste all the money you like. This is for those players who have a hard time staying quiet through a game like myself and will eventually be reported even over the course of 4 years it will add up and get you banned. It would be the right thing to do if riot would at least refund the money purchased to be used ingame which of-course now is completely useless after you are banned.

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MasterSomething3 votes

First of all, Free Speech does NOT apply here. Free Speech only means that the government cannot censor you. This is RIOT's private property- They can do whatever the hell they want. Also, if you don't want to get banned, don't flame. You can crack jokes, but you can't insult someone's mother or life.

Chillic2 votes

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First of all, Free Speech does NOT apply here. Free Speech only means that the government cannot censor you. This is RIOT's private property- They can do whatever the hell they want. Also, if you don't want to get banned, don't flame. You can crack jokes, but you can't insult someone's mother or life.

Again this post isnt for you then. this is advice for people who are in a similar situation i am.

MasterSomething1 votes

This isn't "advice" as you think. You may think it's advice, but it's completely one sided coming from a punished player. Criticism for players is OK as long as you do it nicely. If you got it, you probably didn't say it nicely. Also, why would they refund the money they spent on the game? It's not their money once they pay it, it's not even their account, and why would they get their money back after being toxic? I'm not going to leave this post untouched and let some poor new player quit this game because of someone misleading him about the punishment system.

Chillic2 votes

No its not misleading at all, it's an aspect of the game where a minority party (the ones being punished) are never heard. You come in here acting like a caped hero for riot but in reality you are just failing to see all sides of the argument. Yes i agree with you criticism should be done nicely, but even then a nice comment turns someone else into a defensive angry player who immediately fires back with insults. Does that happen in every case? no, but it does happen and both sides reported are eventually getting reported. The money spent on the game is on the understanding the individual will be playing it. Being forcefully removed and unable to play it is an easy way of saying thank you for your money now everything you spent is useless. Even if riot would of done a permanent chat restriction i can understand that and say thats fair. Being permanently banned is another story. You clearly are someone who just likes to argue after i even told you this post isn't for someone like you it's for players like myself who tend to engage in these arguments in game. It may not be advice to you but it is for everyone who has received any kind of ingame restriction from riot. So dont go pushing your opinion as if its fact.

MasterSomething1 votes

If they received a restriction, they've earned it. I'm going to ask you a question: Why do the criminals get to decide the punishments? Why not the peers, or the judge? Because what you are saying is that you guys should get to decide how you get punished. If someone gets angry and insults you, you have the mute button and the report button. False reports carry no weight. I will see your side of the argument as soon as you see mine- You think you deserve some kind of gift for being the minority, while there is little incentive for us to NOT be toxic. Hextech crafting became a new incentive, but even then toxic players complain about it. They feel entitled to something they do not deserve. Now, on the case of permanently banned, Riot does not want you here if they permanently ban you. All Perma bans are hand reviewed. Permanent chat restriction, as Lyte put it, "ruins verbal communication and encourages other toxic behavior when your team is making you angry." If you are getting into arguments in game, try mute all. Pings are effective. There is also playing with friends. You also are pushing your opinion as fact. "It may not be advice for you but it is for everyone who has received any kind of ingame restriction from Riot." You believe it is advice, I believe it is not. There is where our opinions split.

Also, I do not care whether it was for me. I do not want some new player believing this to be true and essentially ruin his experience with the game. This is not true, and this is why I am here.

Chillic2 votes

Look i appreciate your input, but its not needed here. now you are trying to push the conversation back and use other outside examples like criminals in real life in an attempt to push the argument you are losing back. It's a classic trick used by scammers all the time. Lets go back to what my core advice is. People who tend to be in the situation i found myself while engaging in conversation in game or new players who like to engage in such conversations i suggest do not buy rp. In your posts you fail to mention how i said league is a great game and fun to play with friends. You said you wouldn't let "poor new players quit this game". I never said anything about quitting i am giving the very logical advice and suggestion of not spending any money on this game. So thanks for taking simple advice clearly not meant for you and spinning it and trying to create an argument to distract from my original message. get a life. look what you said here "You think you deserve some kind of gift for being the minority, while there is little incentive for us to NOT be toxic. " Never have i mentioned anything like that in my posts yet. You not only are trying to change the subject to argue for the side of riot you are also putting assumptions and words in my mouth. i am done arguing with you. You're clearly a clever troll who likes to parade around on the forums as a hero of riot. consider yourself muted.

MasterSomething1 votes

Since when is using analogies not allowed to be used in arguments? It's a common tactic used in debates all the time, not scammers. Also, "Dancing around the argument" is quite effective at debate. If you can get the person to respond to those points that are similar but slightly less relevant, you can nullify their arguments quickly, while building up more for your own when you get back on topic. Also, it's not hard to say "just mute all" instead of "don't buy RP." What you are suggesting is "If you are going to be toxic, don't pay money." That's what this boils down to. I'm saying "Don't be toxic and buy RP." You can see the difference in argument there. The reason I fail to mention that is because I felt it had no relevancy to the topic: less so than than some of the points I used. However, I know a couple of my points were completely relevant: Freedom of Speech only applying to government, the fact that you are trying to push your opinion as fact (which you started, might I add), and the permanent ban paragraph addressing permanent chat restrict (which was in your original topic.) You also seemed to forget I changed my stance from "poor new players quit the game" to "new player getting his experience ruined". I also have no life, so hah. In the point about minority, while it was a little off topic, the majority of toxic players do demand something for compensation for punishments. You are questioning why they don't refunds. I answered it. You said it in your original paragraph- am I going to have to quote it? I am not putting assumptions in my mouth. I am using an example. Look at the PB&M boards, and see how many punished players attempt to stage uprisings or demand their money or their ban revoked. This argument was always for the side of Riot and the side of you. I never changed the subject. I used similar subjects. Yep, pull out the "clever troll" card. That's real mature. You so far have only avoided my points, said I missed something, called my argument "losing" when there is no losing side until it's decided by peers, and refuse to give me any counter argument whatsoever.

Daen2 votes

After a few reports you will be suspended or banned the more you play

False. Suspensions and bans require either numerous repeated offenses or particularly severe toxicity, and the vast majority of players are never punished regardless of how long they play.

if you are the type of person who cant go without criticising other players don't waste your money on RP

If you are the type of person who can't go without criticizing other players, you should probably find another game to play. Very few people enjoy being belittled and criticized, and the punishment systems in place reflect this.

I know most of you are fine and can go on playing league and hushing your constitutional right of freedom of speech

Freedom of Speech applies exclusively to government protest, it has nothing to do with how private companies work with their communities. Riot could permanently ban every single account in the game tomorrow and it'd be completely in accordance with law and their terms of service if they wanted to, but obviously they wouldn't do so since we are consuming their product.

It would be the right thing to do if riot would at least refund the money purchased to be used ingame which of-course now is completely useless after you are banned.

It is not Riot's fault permanently banned players that spent money get banned; Riot has very clear rules and associated punishments in place, and they expect their community to abide by those rules. It's up to the player whether he or she wants to follow the rules, Riot simply enforces them.

Very few companies offer refunds to people that break their terms, it would be like Apple refunding the cost of an iPhone to someone that rooted and bricked it despite knowingly circumventing their terms of service.

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