14 day ban on level 9 account

Rurik X·Aug 10, 2015·1 votes·1,273 views

Every single game since I started the account has been an insult-fest. People spewing insults at eachother non-stop. I did not play a single game where this didn't occur. All I am guilty of is defending myself when someone insulted me when I did absolutely nothing wrong. I got reported after every single game no matter what. There was a game where I did not say anything and I got a message that said "Your behavior isn't in line"

And now I have a 14 day ban.

Needless to say, I'm pissed. So I'm going to go ahead and log onto my main (which is currently plat 3) and proceed to feed my ass off straight down to bronze. After all that is what a toxic player does right? See you guys on the Rift!

31 Comments

Radnar the boldAug 10, 20156 votes

This is your logic if im correct: People yell toxic behavior so I shoudl return it! People feed all the time, so Im going to feed!

And eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind. people need to start seeing that there are ways to fight toxicity without being a toxic ass as well.

Ignore/mute- shuts them up on the chat for you, but will they still feed, or rage? yes but at least thier chat wont annoy you.

Be calm and cool- toxic people love when they get under your skin and love it mroe when you yell back. Just be calm and cool and give them nothing to feed off of. If you be loving or postivie then they will just look like an ass.

Dont spam "report X"- say it like once or after the game, its annoying to remind everyone to report x over and over.

Rurik XAug 10, 20152 votes

None of that even matters when I got reported in games where I literally said nothing at all and had a positive KDA. Probably reported by the other because I won. And yes, an eye for an eye. I got an undeserved 14 day ban by their shitty system for playing in games where everyone was insulting everyone. So now I'm going to make sure I return the favor. If I can make at least one potential costumer of theirs quit by feeding my way to bronze then that's good enough for me.

Radnar the boldAug 10, 20151 votes

You dont get a 14 day ban for reports that said nothing, you get reported for spewing toxic stuff. People flame, jyst dont fricken flame back, its that simple. You flamed back with more toxic behavior and got banned. Stop saying "Its all riots fault". Does riot have toxic people? yes? does that mean you have to be toxic as well? no.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

You have no idea how their system works. It is automated. If you receive a certain amount of reports (And boy did I get a lot since the reports rolled in even on the games when I said nothing in chat) and then you get put into the system where it then scans the chat logs. Man that must have been a long scan due to the fact that in the games I was "toxic" everyone was telling each other to go fuck themselves, die in a fire/etc, Mom jokes, etc. And when its finally finished shuffling through all of the insults to pinpoint your potty mouth BOOM 14 day ban.

Literally like walking into a grocery store and getting your ass kicked by 9 people and then getting sent to jail for punching one of them.

And people will defend this LOL

Radnar the boldAug 10, 20151 votes

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You have no idea how their system works. It is automated. If you receive a certain amount of reports (And boy did I get a lot since the reports rolled in even on the games when I said nothing in chat) and then you get put into the system where it then scans the chat logs. Man that must have been a long scan due to the fact that in the games I was "toxic" everyone was telling each other to go fuck themselves, die in a fire/etc, Mom jokes, etc. And when its finally finished shuffling through all of the insults to pinpoint your potty mouth BOOM 14 day ban.

And people will defend this. LOL

If they have reports that have no toxic behavior then it is thrown out. The dont amass the reports and then check, every report is checked, but if they see that you are getting more and more reports then they will have a more thourough search. They saw that rather than stay calm you gave into the hate and spewed hate yourself. Anger leads to hate and hate leads to the dark side, or troll side in this matter.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

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If they have reports that have no toxic behavior then it is thrown out. The dont amass the reports and then check, every report is checked, but if they see that you are getting more and more reports then they will have a more thourough search. They saw that rather than stay calm you gave into the hate and spewed hate yourself. Anger leads to hate and hate leads to the dark side, or troll side in this matter.

You're right. I'm an awful person. I got insulted, trolled, and bad mouthed and I said something back. God I am so sorry everyone. I will change my ways.

Radnar the boldAug 10, 20151 votes

Just do whatever you want. I agree the system is flawed and that defending yourself is what every fiber in your body wants to do, but that doesnt mean you have to be toxic and say rude things. You can defend yourself in many ways without swearing or going off on them. Use logic and reason rather than opinion and anger.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

I would but unfortunately I'm not a buddhist who has spent an eternity finding his inner calm and peace. Which is apparently the only types of people Riot want playing their game.

Radnar the boldAug 10, 20151 votes

Im not a buddhist preist and I never rage or get mad at anyone. even when they yell at me I still stay calm.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

I'm going to go ahead and take a guess that you're at a decent rank. When I play ranked games there is usually far less toxicity, it's rare.

In low level games someone will literally just tell you to kill yourself and fuck off right at the start of the game just for the hell of it. And I'm not even joking either. There were a few times where in champ select people started insulting us for no reason.

Make a low level account and level it in normals then come back and say that again.

Radnar the boldAug 10, 20151 votes

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I'm going to go ahead and take a guess that you're at a decent rank. When I play ranked games there is usually far less toxicity, it's rare.

In low level games someone will literally just tell you to kill yourself and fuck off right at the start of the game just for the hell of it. And I'm not even joking either. There were a few times where in champ select people started insulting us for no reason.

Make a low level account and level it in normals then come back and say that again.

Im silver 2.......

JubbinautAug 10, 20153 votes

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None of that even matters when I got reported in games where I literally said nothing at all and had a positive KDA.

If you're not being toxic, the reports don't hurt you. So why does it matter whether you got reported in games where you said nothing at all?

I got an undeserved 14 day ban by their shitty system for playing in games where everyone was insulting everyone.

Why should the way others behave be an excuse for the way you behave?

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

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If you're not being toxic, the reports don't hurt you. So why does it matter whether you got reported in games where you said nothing at all?

Because those reports for doing absolutely nothing wrong contribute to the number of reports you need to trigger their automated system that scans for that one game you had where you slipped up and defended yourself (lol)

Had I not been reported in the games where I wasn't toxic then the system likely would not have been initiated because there were only 2 games where I defended myself out of like 30 games of people raging at each other and reporting me for no reason.

JubbinautAug 10, 20151 votes

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Because those reports for doing absolutely nothing wrong contribute to the number of reports you need to trigger their automated system that scans for that one game you had where you slipped up and defended yourself (lol)

That's true enough. There's two things I think are worth mentioning in relation to this:

First, false reports really aren't that common. It's really uncommon for false reports to make a difference in building a case - particularly since players who habitually issue false reports have extremely low report weight.

Second, toxicity is measured on a kind of scale - not all toxic behavior is considered equally bad. That scale helps the system determine the strength of sanction to be issued. So the worst that would happen due to false reports on a player with occasional mild toxicity would be a small chat restriction.

Had I not been reported in the games where I wasn't toxic then the system likely would not have been initiated because there were only 2 games where I defended myself out of like 30 games of people raging at each other and reporting me for no reason.

I don't think that argument really flies, and here's why:

"It's not fair, officer! I didn't rob any of those other convenience stores that filed reports on me, so I should never have been caught for those times that I did rob them!"

I could perhaps offer more insight into your specific case if you'd care to post the logs that were sent regarding your ban.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

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I don't think that argument really flies, and here's why:

"It's not fair, officer! I didn't rob any of those other convenience stores that filed reports on me, so I should never have been caught for those times that I did rob them!"

Your analogy is a little off. In the case of my games and Riot's retarded system it would be more like:

"There is a general rule that you cannot rob convenience stores but everyone does it anyway and its mostly overlooked until its brought to the attention of the authorities. Depending on whether or not you ransack the place or do it too often you may get busted and face harsher penalties.

So Literally everyone is robbing convenience stores.. all the time. As well filing reports on each other for robbing convenience stores. Even on the nights that I wasn't robbing convenience stores and they were, they still filed the false reports that I was actually robbing the convenience store when I was not. So because of the large volume of these false reports I specifically caught your attention and you shuffled through all the false reports until you found the one on the night where I did actually take part in the robbing with 9 other people (who also reported me) and we ransacked the place together. So I then get slammed with the maximum punishment while they are still robbing convenience stores at this very moment."

By definition that is unfair.

JubbinautAug 10, 20151 votes

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Your analogy is a little off. In the case of my games and Riot's retarded system it would be more like:

"There is a general rule that you cannot rob convenience stores but everyone does it anyway and its mostly overlooked until its brought to the attention of the authorities. Depending on whether or not you ransack the place or do it too often you may get busted and face harsher penalties.

As with the real world, if a crime goes unreported, it tends to also go unpunished. I see no concern, here.

So Literally everyone is robbing convenience stores.. all the time.

This is blatantly and completely false. Most players exhibit toxicity only rarely. Positive and neutral players (who are not regularly, commonly, or consistently toxic) make up about 92% of the overall community.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

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This is blatantly and completely false. Most players exhibit toxicity only rarely. Positive and neutral players (who are not regularly, commonly, or consistently toxic) make up about 92% of the overall community.

I'm not speaking for the entire community. I am speaking in regards to the people in the games I played because obviously those are the ones that are relevant because they're the ones I was banned for.

In those games every single person was being incredibly toxic. And I was punished.

JubbinautAug 10, 20151 votes

So because other people were being toxic, you shouldn't have been punished for your own toxicity?

I don't understand how that makes any sense. Could you explain it for me?

Rurik XAug 11, 20151 votes

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So because other people were being toxic, you shouldn't have been punished for your own toxicity?

I don't understand how that makes any sense. Could you explain it for me?

Blah blah blah sit back and take trolling and insults like a little bitch-boy cuck and then politely thank the person who just told you to kill yourself and spent the game feeding your lane and insulting you in various ways or get BANNED. Welcome to League of Legends, leave your pride and self-respect at the door.

You Riot dick suckers are all the same. I'm sure you're a perfect little angel.

JubbinautAug 11, 20151 votes

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Blah blah blah sit back and take trolling and insults like a little bitch-boy cuck and then politely thank the person who just told you to kill yourself and spent the game feeding your lane and insulting you in various ways or get BANNED. Welcome to League of Legends, leave your pride and self-respect at the door.

That's not even remotely what I said. As I've indicated before, there are non-toxic ways to respond to other toxic players.

No one expects people to be nice to each other - they expect people to not actively be jerks to each other. And there's a wide range of perfectly acceptable responses between the two.

But it's important to remember that ultimately, you will be held responsible for your actions - and no one else's.

You Riot dick suckers are all the same. I'm sure you're a perfect little angel.

Oh, no, not at all. I have a habit of being somewhat negative sometimes, and it's been getting worse lately. Never abusive, but probably reportable. When I recognize it, I stop playing for a while - sometimes just for the day, sometimes for a month or more.

But I try very, very, very hard to keep it out of chat. I can't say I've always been successful there, but I've been successful enough to've kept my nose clean.

Nobody's perfect. Everybody slips up now and then. The trick is minimizing that - and accepting responsibility for it when you do slip.

EDIT: It occurs to me that you may have taken that previous post as sarcasm. If so, I want to apologize. It wasn't intended that way - I just genuinely don't understand the logic.

Laughing FishAug 10, 20155 votes

Your kind is not welcome here.

Live2LetDieAug 10, 20153 votes

Your in plat, not surprising your toxic considering plat is the most toxic elo

Colgate GatorAug 10, 20151 votes

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Your in plat, not surprising your toxic considering plat is the most toxic elo

Actually I'd say Gold is the worst one.

Pretty DhiziAug 10, 20153 votes

Good to see that you gave in to pressure and are going to act like the toxic players, and letting them irritate you to a point of making yourself act stupid/lower yourself to their level?

I'd rather take a bronze player with great attitude than a plat 3 with miserable attitude. Enjoy your two week ban.

Rurik XAug 10, 20151 votes

I will enjoy it. And so will the people on my team in these ranked games.

SarutobiAug 10, 20151 votes

how exactly did you defend yourself? While ill admit Riots whole "dont retaliate" seems kinda iffy. its all we got, and majority of the time its best to just let it go. ive been playing League of Legends for a long time, possibly over 5 years. I have been called possibly every curse, racial slang, and homophobic word in the book and not once did i feel the need to tell the other person how i felt because it didnt matter. I can mute them and never have to see what the type (till after the game and usually by then ill just leave quickly to my next game)

What people need to understand is that when people are toxic they want to get you riled up because they think its funny. Plus they know how the system works and can report you because you are insulting them as well. Doesnt matter how justified it was, you are still in the wrong. You have so many ways to just ignore it. use it and move on. you dont take the bait while they might go after you in a harsher tone, sooner or later they will give up!

LiquefierAug 10, 20151 votes

THIS IS MY LOGIC YOU STUPID SACKS OF EXCREMENT:

Riot says don't defend yourself, so what they are saying is if a bully is beating you up, you should not defend yourself and thank them for breaking your face.

If terrorists are hijacking your plane to crash it into your country WHY DEFEND YOURSELF! YOU'RE ONLY ADDING TO THE PROBLEM!?!?!

THE LOGIC IS FUCKING RETARDED.

JubbinautAug 10, 20151 votes

So a verbal insult is the same as a potentially life-threatening situation?

That is the best logic.

Barris JodoAug 10, 20151 votes

I totally agree this system is goddamn retarded. I'm glad you're going to troll them for the system essentially trolling you. What do you expect though? Riot is a Chinese company... we all know how much they understand freedom of speech in China.

Live2LetDieAug 11, 20151 votes

O also reports == ban. It just flags your account to be scanned automatically.