Wrongly Ban

Elf Cry··1 votes·1,436 views

I personally think I was ban for my last game, the reason why I "raged" some may say, during the game it was alright my Bottom Lane was still trolling and I had to tell them to stop and play better. For some league creators you may say its unsportsmanlike, I see it as making others better. Thus, on to my last game it was around 45 minutes when my teammates kept trolling the team, I don't know what I should of said but I think my actions were correct because if you were in my position what would you do? This was my last promotion game by the way, now during around 45 mins my Morgana that was on the team kept on 1v5 around a critical point in the game were 1 death equals baron. After that ordeal I started to tell my team to play better, turtle and try to survive for the baron to run out but then morgana and her duo lucian starts to go guns blazing and die and made us lose the game. Personally I wouldn't want other players to be playing with these players because they are going to get trolled and lose. Waste of time and then they would get ban for afking from the trolls its a cycle of hate and trolls.

31 Comments

Onegarion4 votes

you do realize you dont get banned for 1 game. If you got banned it would have been for your last many games. This could go back weeks and if you got Banned that means a Riot employee themselves have looked at your case. Its not just about the last game.

Fauxy Shadow2 votes

Not true, they have implemented sweeping auto bans based on reports and report stats. So if you get reported every game with say verbal abuse or offensive lang, you will recieve a 2 week ban. RIOT ONLY looks at perma bans not 2 week bans.

The problem with this system especially in bronze and silver elo even gold is that everyone reports everyone even if they win. Its a way to abuse the system. That is why there have been 100's of thousands of 2 week bans.

Onegarion2 votes

But 1 game isn't going to get you banned. You have to reach a certain percentage of games where you are reported. I highly doubt that low elos just report someone for nothing. Give me stats and we will see.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

oh you must be higher elo. LOL everyone reports everyone every game. I report everyone on me team every game unless they are legit nice because i will be getting reported anyways just because that is what is happening. Its the Meta to report every game.

Onegarion2 votes

you must be bronze then or have a stupid mentality about it.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

nope just facts. they only review BAN cases not suspension cases. suspension and chat ban is all automated

Onegarion1 votes

Riot themselves only review permanent bans, but the system handles the short term bans like the 1 week and 2 week. The system bases it off of a specific % of consistently getting reported before it acts. It use to be ~15% of your games you needed to be reported before you would get a ban. For a time there anything that wasn't a chat restriction was personally handled by an employee while the tribunal is down. Not sure if they are still doing that now, but they were.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

So wait a second, if in the lower elo there are atleast 40 reports go out everygame because most ppl just report everyone out of spite. Then that means their system is REALLY broke! We are being suspended by trolls that are angry about previous games that they go and dance at enemy base and go 0-32 then report everyone on their team>

Onegarion1 votes

so now either you are just trolling me or really are that stupid.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

wow you dont know basic math, if report everyone that is 9 reports there are 10 total ppl. If everyone reports everyone that is 90, i said assuming that just under half of the ppl use this method then that is approx 40 given reports. safe to assume that you do this over 10 games that means that you could easily be reported in a 48hr period you would be flagged for suspension.

I though the math was pretty simple but maybe not.

Onegarion1 votes

thats not how it works. Its 15% of your games. Doesn't matter if thats 1 report or 9. Its really not that hard to grasp.

Cozarkian2 votes

You are misinformed. 1) Riot bans are based on number of games for which you receive reports, not total reports. Thus, there is no difference between 1 report and 9 reports for a game. 2) Second, the system ignores reports from "chronic reporters." Thus, if you report someone every game, the system will throw away 100% of your reports.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

you are right you are definitely misinformed, im sure you can link me a riot post where they are telling you the truth

Cozarkian1 votes

I could possibly find some of the old posts from Lyte on this topic, but I'm not going to bother since it sounds like you will just respond by claiming Riot lied.

DrCyanide1 votes

Are you in Wood? Because I'm in Silver, and I haven't gotten a ban/restriction. My wife's in Bronze, she hasn't gotten one. Neither have my other friends in Bronze and Silver. If this is a low elo problem, then it's at an elo lower than Bronze and Silver.

And no, it's pretty rare for us to report people, and even lower that we're reported ourselves. You reporting everyone every game means the system is just ignoring you anyway, and it would be the same with anyone else in your boat.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

Hey everyone can lie bud its ok. You have nothing to prove here on the forum. Right now there is a giant issue going on and thousands were suspended yesterday via automated system.

I am just reporting the facts

DrCyanide1 votes

Hey everyone can lie bud its ok. You have nothing to prove here on the forum.

I have no need to lie, but I am trying to figure out why you feel compeled to.

Right now there is a giant issue going on and thousands were suspended yesterday via automated system.

I am just reporting the facts

No, you're describing some players experience and bias. Riot's reporting the facts -
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/BPW3ButA-anyone-else-getting-random-2-week-bans

Whenever Riot tightens the dials on the automated system, "thousands" are banned "for no reason". They take to the forums and make posts, and then Riot responds showing that these hits were not false possitives.

It's also funny to me how every pass there seems to be someone who demands logs to prove they've been falsely banned, only to be permabanned because the dials are still too loose.


We've seen this system go around and around. The vast majority of people are nowhere near getting banned, the vast majority of people banned know why they were banned. The vocal minority that claims they were falsely banned are almost always in the wrong (there have been, what? Two repeals? Maybe a handful of shortenings?).

If you are being reported every game, and have an incredibly negative attitude about everyone you run into in game, chances are you're one of the people who are part of the problem, not the solution.

Jubbinaut1 votes

I saw 3 in the first couple months of ban waves. Haven't seen any since then. And those were really weird cases, tbh. In one case, the player was totally being toxic (lines like "god, akali, you're such a retard"), with the twist being that he was directing the toxicity at himself (bitching about the akali on his team, when he was the akali on his team).

No surprise the reviewer mixed that one up.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

how about i dont talk in game EVER and get a 2 week ban

Oh did you read his cop out, "well you werent really toxic per say but we have some indications within your chat that you chose not to work with your teammates. It doesnt matter how they choose to talk to you IT is your job to be the highest pinicle of sportsmanship. "

I call BS on responses like that. That guy gets a 2 week ban because he disagrees with his team. WTF ever

Jubbinaut1 votes

The bans are not automated. Rioters - Lyte in particular - have stated that every ban is manually reviewed.

I honestly don't know where the idea that they don't review their bans even comes from.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

for BANS not suspensions. If you want riot to see a suspension you must submit a ticket to get your automated messages. Read it again.

Jubbinaut1 votes

There are two basic behavioral punishment systems in place right now. Bans and chat restrictions.

Riot has stated that all bans are manually reviewed. They have also stated that many chat restrictions are manually reviewed (to ensure that the system is maintaining the appropriate level of accuracy).

You can call them bans or suspensions or whatever you want, but if you've been issued a behavior-related punishment that prevents you from logging into the game, your case was manually reviewed by a Rioter.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

did u actually read what wookie said about the bans. Its a joke one guy got baned for merely not saying anything bad but just didnt cooperate with his team.

because we all know that the teams know best, sometimes it is best to not listen to the rush baron while they are all up order.

Jubbinaut1 votes

I read what Lyte had to say about it. Quite a bit of what Lyte had to say about it. Here's a solid summary of what they had to say about it, posted in the old forums by Ulanopo:


"I don't like that the system is 100% automated."

A certain amount of automation is necessary to meet the objective of the system: to provide feedback and correction in hours instead of days.

We know that the system is not entirely automated. link

You assume there's no human element. There's just less player involvement, but Rioters are heavily involved always.

"Automation" might not mean what you think it means: link

We'll look into revealing some context and information around some of the experiments in the future. We're trying a lot of different things while Tribunal is being upgraded, and "automated" was probably the wrong word to use.

By "automated," we simply meant that it is possible for a penalty to be handed out more quickly after a negative action. Sometimes in the Tribunal a negative action would happen and it'd be a month before the player received a notification or feedback about it.

This makes it sound as though "automation" is a streamlined and accelerated process that puts the case in front of the reviewer faster than the Tribunal, rather than a system that has little to no human input.

From WookieeCookie: link

The system is not automated at all currently. This wave of bans, and the wave of chat restrictions prior have been the result of close collaboration between a number of teams including Player Behavior and Justice, Business Intelligence, Player Support, and our regional offices. Human interaction has been a core component of each step the entire way through.

Additional clarification from Lyte link

There also is a lot of supervision over the restricted chat system. In fact, we have a few teams that review players that are queued up for chat restrictions and are constantly analyzing the accuracy of the system through manual checks and algorithmic checks. "Automated" was probably the wrong word to use, because all it really means is the ability to automatically assign penalties to players at a much quicker pace than the Tribunal was able to, while also doing it in-game with notifications instead of via e-mail many hours or weeks later.

At this time, I believe that the 5-game restrictions have minimal human oversight, while the 30 and 40-game restrictions are assigned manually.

Keep in mind that there are MANY things they cannot discuss regarding the inner workings of the chat restriction system.

  • For some percentage of the restrictions, the algorithm flags accounts for manual review. Someone from Player Support then looks at the account history to determine if a restriction is warranted.
  • We do not know what percentage of accounts undergo manual review.
  • We do not know what criteria the reviewers use to determine if a restriction is warranted.
Fauxy Shadow1 votes

well you saw my chat log so i guess if that is all it takes to get a 2 week ban then i guess instant mute everyone

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

Here you go here is THE log according to sup that i got a 2 week ban for

[0:35] Fauxy Shadow: why woud riot say ashe is a sup if you say she isnt, didnt u tell riot to change it> [1:04] Fauxy Shadow: how do u build it [1:10] Fauxy Shadow: because build is everything [4:24] Fauxy Shadow: u killed him [8:10] Fauxy Shadow: im backing out [9:51] Fauxy Shadow: nid u talk shit to me and ur feedung [9:59] Fauxy Shadow: blind corner [10:27] Fauxy Shadow: ww wait [10:29] Fauxy Shadow: for me [10:33] Fauxy Shadow: wait [13:03] Fauxy Shadow: ww let me know when ur going mid [13:08] Fauxy Shadow: ill join u [13:11] Fauxy Shadow: if i have ult [13:19] Fauxy Shadow: anivia get chalice [13:23] Fauxy Shadow: so you can afk farm [16:22] Fauxy Shadow: LOL [16:26] Fauxy Shadow: u blame us [17:11] Fauxy Shadow: no i dont [17:15] Fauxy Shadow: i care less about u [17:27] Fauxy Shadow: because u called me garbage troll and im doing better then u as sup [18:34] Fauxy Shadow: this nid [18:39] Fauxy Shadow: so troll [20:05] Fauxy Shadow: what [20:11] Fauxy Shadow: it went through him [20:26] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: mal did that look the same on your screen [20:31] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: going through u [21:21] Fauxy Shadow: i cant get out to get wards out [22:59] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: :) [23:22] Fauxy Shadow: dammm [23:26] Fauxy Shadow: dem slows [26:43] Fauxy Shadow: ult [26:56] Fauxy Shadow: because im pushing him back [27:08] Fauxy Shadow: no [27:36] Fauxy Shadow: u were full he was 2 bars [28:12] Fauxy Shadow: im trying [28:16] Fauxy Shadow: but if u dont push out [28:21] Fauxy Shadow: i cant get the wards out [28:24] Fauxy Shadow: ffs [30:15] Fauxy Shadow: common guys [30:23] Fauxy Shadow: j4 had 12 hp [30:51] Fauxy Shadow: lol ww your score [30:53] Fauxy Shadow: LOL [31:15] Fauxy Shadow: lol winning is what i do [31:37] Fauxy Shadow: ww ur so bad u r not worth my time [32:07] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: WW wants to 1v1 me [32:12] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: because he is so good [32:33] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: i caused nid to feed top [32:37] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: because i was ashe sup [33:17] Fauxy Shadow: troll [33:38] Fauxy Shadow: gj ez [35:16] Fauxy Shadow: there is nothing ez and i can do to carry u guys [35:49] Fauxy Shadow: unfortunetly i know [37:20] Fauxy Shadow: im sup not carry

so after a nid in top goes 4-16 blames me as the sup why she fed...

WW blamed the whole team why he couldnt get a kill...

Anivia was just having a bad game and nid and WW tortured her

the only one that did good was EZ and myself at bot lane

We were reking till team fights started. I even went to mid to help anivia on multiple occasions. I do not see what i said to be considered bad.

Jubbinaut1 votes

[9:51] Fauxy Shadow: nid u talk shit to me and ur feedung

Calling another player out is not okay.

[18:34] Fauxy Shadow: this nid [18:39] Fauxy Shadow: so troll

Calling another player out is not okay.

[30:51] Fauxy Shadow: lol ww your score

Same thing.

[31:37] Fauxy Shadow: ww ur so bad u r not worth my time

Insulting another player is not okay.

[32:33] Fauxy Shadow [ALL]: i caused nid to feed top

Calling your team out in /all chat is really not okay.

[33:17] Fauxy Shadow: troll

More insults. Still not okay.

[35:16] Fauxy Shadow: there is nothing ez and i can do to carry u guys

Calling out your team is not okay.


Additionally, I sincerely doubt this was the only game that was in your case. It may be the only game given to you (although that would be odd) because it's solidly indicative of the kinds of behaviors found in the rest of the case. But it's certainly not the only game in your case.

Or, to put that last bit another way: you were not banned for just this game. You were banned for this game and others.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

no this WAS THE GAME according to support, so you never call someone out that is harrassing you and your whole team

Colgate Gator4 votes

You weren't banned for one game, so drop the saint act, you aren't the first nor will be the last to come here to try to make themselves look good until a Riot employee comes here and call you up.

Next time just report them and don't enter their raging contest.

Fauxy Shadow1 votes

i beg to differ i just got sup confirmation that i recieved my 2 week suspension for 1 game.

OneSlickPhony1 votes

Summoner 1 is Bronze I.

Summoner 2 is Silver IV.

Summoner 2 says, "Play better!"

Summoner 1 instantly becomes Gold II.

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