so is it safe to say that ivern is one the worst champions in the game?

XOF Ornstein·11/6/2016, 9:17:21 AM·3 votes·1,775 views

He has terrible winrate and no ones plays him, just today i had a game that had an ivern in it the first time since he came out and surprise surprise he was useless is riot gonna buff him or what?

7 Comments

reaperteaser11/6/2016, 9:29:37 AM2 votes

ive seen good ones, he is just really different from alot of other kits. it takes a bit getting used to, the whole ranged attack only while in a bush is wonky. but he does jave the worst ai pet in the game, so in that regards yeah, daisy needs tibbers ai

edit: also he is support (not very popular role) and jungle (not a very straightforward role) hybrid, makes sense why he isnt picked much

EMU Analyst11/6/2016, 9:27:22 AM1 votes

Dude, ivern is an amazing champion it's just alot of players assume they can just pick him up and get a pentakill. It doesn't work like that he takes practice but he is very good, just takes positioning and timing.

JackMcSnipeyz11/6/2016, 9:35:15 AM1 votes

Dont buff him, you really want another tahm kench or bard?

Give him fixes to his wonky AA and horrible per AI

Kouga11/6/2016, 1:49:28 PM1 votes

He's the newest Champ, I think the playerbase needs some more exposure. His kit, as mentioned by others, is unusual. Playing him a couple games (and definitely not enough to feel comfortable with him), the switching between ranged & melee was a little off putting. If I wasn't paying attention I'd AA after a Q and end up leaping into a fight I didn't mean to join, or I'd be trying to catch up to someone and couldn't figure out why I wasn't jumping to them for a second. I understand how the abilities work, but you have to develop the muscle memory for it for it to set in.

His brush thing is odd, and its very circumstantial. Playing it at the right time and place will make a big difference for his effectiveness. I see them just thrown down in the lane for no reason and if you get zoned out of them it can backfire. The brush also means that he'll usually be stronger in specific circumstances. Teams that can use the brush for best effect will get more out of it, and some comps will be better equipped for this then others.

Bard isn't built for every lane. Put him with an ADC that needs babysitting and he'll be hard pressed to be able to roam, collect shrines or assist other lanes. But put him with an ADC that can stand on their own for a minute and he can be much more effective. Some Champs are niche. I think Ivern will be niche.

morris111/6/2016, 3:47:20 PM1 votes

If they buff him for the love of God do something to stop his level 1 invade (go to your red, smite and run away instantly). That's one of the most unhealthy mechanics for a jungler.