Why chat ban isn't helping anyone.

ILee IEverett··1 votes·528 views

When you give somebody a chat ban all you're really doing is preventing team communication. It's pointless when you can mute people in game if they get on your nerves. So really there is no reason for chat bans at all. good try though i guess.

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Jubbinaut4 votes

Interestingly, it seems that most of the "team communication" from players with chat restrictions tends to be communicating who sucks and why. Which aren't exactly useful pieces of information.

Besides, the restrictions allow for some amount of communication, which lets them become a useful tool for learning how to use chat effectively.

Additionally, it turns out that most players with chat restrictions (at least in the first wave) actually saw their win-rates increase, which tends to indicate that their form of communication may have actually been holding them back.

cyphris411 votes

actually most chat bans are on players who defend themselves.

Jubbinaut1 votes

And do you have a source for this claim?

cyphris411 votes

Yep from much history with the support staff. If you defend yourself in way what would be considered acceptable in mutual combat and they report you, you are done. These days that is a 2 week ban not even a chat ban.

Jubbinaut1 votes

While that's not a source, I won't argue it. However, Riot's policy has always been that retaliation is not acceptable. And toxicity in response to toxicity is certainly that.

cyphris411 votes

Sorry i am not aloud to give out the documentaion and names of riot support staff.

That is why the tribunal worked and this system punishes ppl defending themselves from major abuse

Jubbinaut1 votes

If it's an open post, there's nothing stopping you. I'm also not arguing that point. Because I know what you're referencing. However, I've never seen any comment from any Riot support member indicate that most chat restrictions have been issued to players defending themselves. I've actually seen exactly no statistics on that at all.

That is why the tribunal worked and this system punishes ppl defending themselves from major abuse

Notably, the Tribunal clearly instructed players that retaliation was not considered acceptable, and to focus on the player they were judging, not what others said. Riot may be stricter about enforcing that, but it's always been a thing.

And they've always said they'd be stricter than the Tribunal was, so it's not exactly a surprise.

Okâmi1 votes

Yep from much history with the support staff. If you defend yourself in way what would be considered acceptable in mutual combat and they report you, you are done. These days that is a 2 week ban not even a chat ban.

I'm curious what you consider "acceptable in mutual combat".

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