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Need some insight... Post-Provisional Rank this Season

Str1ve··1 votes·428 views

I'm not here to complain about my placement following my provisional matches, just hoping to get a little clarity and feedback to help me better understand what may have happened. I would really appreciate constructive feedback. I'll admit, I'm very frustrated with the rank bestowed upon me, but I can't change that now. I need some insight...keep in mind I'm fully aware the calculations for ELO score are kept secret, but there might be something obvious I'm missing through my clouded perception.

Last season was my first season playing ranked (and leagues). After going 3-7 (and knowing WAY LESS about the game than I do now) I was placed in Silver IV. I know for a fact that my provisional matches last season were a joke compared to my matches this season. Looking back, I laugh at the fact that I even opted to play ranked last season. I was just so ignorant and naive compared to now.

This season my provisional matches went much smoother. I've found a role that I'm good at (support), my champion pool has grown immensely and my game knowledge/awareness has improved drastically. From what I could tell, my provisional matches went pretty darn well bar two games (6-4 overall). If you look at my ranked match history of the first 10 games in both seasons, it doesn't even compare. Yet I've been placed in Bronze III...and I honestly just do not understand how. I'm not going to sit here and knock bronze, nor am I going to say "I'm better than this" because it won't do any good. Honestly, I'm a little embarrassed because I thought "surely I'll be at least high silver".

I've accepted my fate and I'll be working my butt off to be where (I feel) I should be, but I just don't understand it. So much so that I need some clarity/feedback in order to really accept it.

Any constructive feedback/theories would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

5 Comments

SmokedAlmonds3 votes

Your previous rank heavily effects your rank after provisional. Going in unranked is like being around silver 4.

It takes quite a bit of losing to drop from a division 5. It looks like you just didn't play enough games for that to happen. Did you end last season at silver 5? If so your MMR was likely well into bronze which would cause to to be placed in bronze almost no matter what.

Str1ve1 votes

I think you may have actually hit the nail on the head there. Thank you for the reply. I had no idea that current season mmr was heavily influenced on this season's mmr. Towards the end of the season I started playing with friends who were also just getting into ranked (and really screwed up my progression) thinking that since the season was almost over, what could it hurt...Now I know the consequences of that.

Thanks again.

jaymc11302 votes

2 things about placements, ever since season 3, hard resets to mmr were done away with and now your previous seasons ending mmr provides a baseline in provisionals, a baseline that is regressed toward the mean. (Ie: diamond players will have mmr temporarily reduced to closer to average levels while a bronze player would have his inflate to closer to average. Don't get me started in how stupid it is) Additionally, the order in which you acquire wins and losses I provisionals has an affect. Over the course of your first 50 ranked games you will see increased mmr and lp gains and losses. This is so the system can rapidly move you to where it thinks you belong and the effect diminishes from the first game to the last of those 50. After 50 games mmr gains normalize and lp gains reflect what your mmr is vs the divisions mmr. This means a player who wins 6 games in a row then loses four in a row will be placed higher than a player who loses 4 then wins 6.

For all intents and purposes accounts become difficult to move after 50 games. Your best bet to be placed accurately and be put in a position to climb is to perform at peak levels for your first 50.

If you have difficulty climbing after 250 games it's best to make a new account and try again. The amount of afk and trolled games one is forced to tough out make it nearly impossible to climb if you get an account stuck in your first 50.

Str1ve1 votes

I really appreciate you sharing that. I was honestly considering creating a new account that would more accurately capture my skill level following my disappointing placement tonight. The information you provided is making me lean that way even more. If I'm understanding you correctly, those first 50 matches are per the accounts total ranked matches played (as opposed to the first 50 in a season). Very disappointing. I know that I've improved a lot since last season and it's a shame that I'm not able accurately see how far I've come, just because I didn't take it "as seriously" last season. Now I'll have to fight my way back to baseline (through Bronze [somehow]).

Thanks for your reply.

jaymc11301 votes

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I really appreciate you sharing that. I was honestly considering creating a new account that would more accurately capture my skill level following my disappointing placement tonight. The information you provided is making me lean that way even more. If I'm understanding you correctly, those first 50 matches are per the accounts total ranked matches played (as opposed to the first 50 in a season). Very disappointing. I know that I've improved a lot since last season and it's a shame that I'm not able accurately see how far I've come, just because I didn't take it "as seriously" last season. Now I'll have to fight my way back to baseline (through Bronze [somehow]).

Thanks for your reply.

Happy to help, and yes you assume correctly, it applies to the very first 50 ranked games for an account. Not the first 50 each season. Accounts that become stuck are notoriously difficult for non professional caliber players to move quickly. Even high level players like myself and caristinn (both master tier) have extreme difficulty carrying low level games consistently on our smurfs. Ranked is not something to take lightly, how you perform initially matters a great deal.

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